torque wrench Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 What is the glide ratio of a 777? 6 to 1?CLEAN, 17:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Here is a good explanation.....................(thanks Google) Both aircraft will cover the same distance but the lighter one will take a longer time to do so.It's amazing the things, some so basic, one forgets in the long run of a career.I stand corrected! Anyone wanna take on the rotation of the planet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Anyone wanna take on the rotation of the planet? PFM. ...Disprove that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest longtimer Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 PFM. ...Disprove that! but of course even the rotation of the earth is not perpetual.Is the earth's ratation slowing downYes it is, due to a transfer of Earth's rotational momentum to the Moon's orbital momentum as tidal friction slows the Earth's rotation. That increase in the Moon's speed is causing it to slowly recede from Earth (about 4 cm per year), increasing its orbital period and the length of a month as well.To picture what is happening, imagine yourself riding a bicycle on a track built around a Merry-go-Round. You are riding in the same direction that it is turning. If you have a lasso and rope one of the horses, you would gain speed and the Merry-Go-Round would lose some. In this analogy, you and your bike represent the Moon, the Merry-Go-Round is the rotating Earth, and your lasso is gravity. In orbital mechanics, a gain in speed results in a higher orbit.The slowing rotation of the Earth results in a longer day as well as a longer month. Once the length of a day equals the length of a month, the tidal friction mechanism will cease. (ie. Once your speed on the track matches the speed of the horses, you can't gain any more speed with your lasso trick.) That's been projected to happen once the day and month both equal about 47 (current) days, billions of years in the future. If the Earth and Moon still exist, the Moon's distance will have increased to about 135% of its current value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thor Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 "It's amazing the things, some so basic, one forgets in the long run of a career. I stand corrected! Anyone wanna take on the rotation of the planet? :Grin-Nod:" Such as the only reason a Dash 7 is able to climb is the fact that there is a curvature to the earth or is it the gravitational pull of the moon? Not sure if the rotation of the planet helped the -7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Such as the only reason a Dash 7 is able to climb is the fact that there is a curvature to the earth or is it the gravitational pull of the moon?Not sure if the rotation of the planet helped the -7.The Dash 7 doesn't climb - the earth repels it at about 500 fpm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 From the web....http://jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 From the web....http://jimstonefreelance.com/phillipwood.htmlThis tops the pile of crap that some people have posted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'm new to this site and would like to know how deep (depth) can the ping from the blackboxes be detected by the search vessels? Also what circular range would that vessel have to be too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'm new to this site and would like to know how deep (depth) can the ping from the blackboxes be detected by the search vessels? Also what circular range would that vessel have to be too?Start here....................http://www.cbsnews.com/news/sophisticated-equipment-en-route-to-search-for-flight-370s-black-boxes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torque wrench Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 but of course even the rotation of the earth is not perpetual.but of course even the rotation of the earth is not perpetual.YET ANOTHER DEPRESSING THOUGHT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torque wrench Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 "It's amazing the things, some so basic, one forgets in the long run of a career. I stand corrected! Anyone wanna take on the rotation of the planet? :Grin-Nod:" Such as the only reason a Dash 7 is able to climb is the fact that there is a curvature to the earth or is it the gravitational pull of the moon? Not sure if the rotation of the planet helped the -7.OR A BAE146..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I would think the US Navy has a large inventory of underwater detection tools developed over the years wrt nuclear sub program. Think Red October. I would be surprised if they didn't have subs on patrol in the Indian Ocean. Boeing is a huge US company with a definite exposure here. I would speculate there are some operations going on that, for reasons of national security, we are not being informed of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 With regards to the BAE146, somebody had to do something with the overproduction of hair dryers in China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'm new to this site and would like to know how deep (depth) can the ping from the blackboxes be detected by the search vessels? Also what circular range would that vessel have to be too?Guess someone forgot to say it, but WELCOME NIGHTHAWK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 YET ANOTHER DEPRESSING THOUGHT.Stop Yelling, (Caps) Oh wait a minute, you're in that building at the airport...probably noisy...with all those airplanes there..........carry on !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inchman Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Who is that guy in the simulator on CNN?Kind of softens your view of the man behind the plaid shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inchman Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Most recent transcript is now on avherald. ( I won't say "final", 'cause everything in this case is subject to change).One of the things that hit me as I was reading the altitude clearances is how bad that flight number is from a clear communications and clearance perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 MAS 370 (Kuala Lumpur to Beijing)PILOT-ATC RADIOTELEPHONY TRANSCRIPTDeparture from KLIA: 8 March 2014ATC DELIVERY12:25:53 MAS 370 Delivery MAS 370 Good Morning12:26:02 ATC MAS 370 Standby and Malaysia Six is cleared to Frankfurtvia AGOSA Alpha Departure six thousand feet squawk twoone zero six12:26:19 ATC ... MAS 370 request level12:26:21 MAS 370 MAS 370 we are ready requesting flight level three five zeroto Beijing12:26:39 ATC MAS 370 is cleared to Beijing via PIBOS A Departure SixThousand Feet squawk two one five seven12:26:45 MAS 370 Beijing PIBOS A Six Thousand Squawk two one five seven,MAS 370 Thank You12:26:53 ATC MAS 370 Welcome over to ground12:26:55 MAS 370 Good DayLUMPUR GROUND12:27:27 MAS 370 Ground MAS370 Good morning Charlie One Requesting pushand start12:27:34 ATC MAS370 Lumpur Ground Morning Push back and startapproved Runway 32 Right Exit via Sierra 4.12:27:40 MAS 370 Push back and start approved 32 Right Exit via Sierra 4 POB239 Mike Romeo Oscar12:27:45 ATC Copied12:32:13 MAS 370 MAS377 request taxi.12:32:26 ATC MAS37..... (garbled) ... standard route. Hold short Bravo12:32:30 MAS 370 Ground, MAS370. You are unreadable. Say again.12:32:38 ATC MAS370 taxi to holding point Alfa 11 Runway 32 Right viastandard route. Hold short of Bravo.12:32:42 MAS 370 Alfa 11 Standard route Hold short Bravo MAS370.12:35:53 ATC MAS 370 Tower12:36:19 ATC (garbled) ... Tower ... (garbled)MAS 370 1188 MAS370 Thank youLUMPUR TOWER12:36:30 MAS 370 Tower MAS370 Morning12:36:38 ATC MAS370 good morning. Lumpur Tower. Holding point..[garbled]..10 32 Right12:36:50 MAS 370 Alfa 10 MAS37012:38:43 ATC 370 line up 32 Right Alfa 10.MAS 370 Line up 32 Right Alfa 10 MAS370.12:40:38 ATC 370 32 Right Cleared for take-off. Good night.MAS 370 32 Right Cleared for take-off MAS370. Thank you Bye.LUMPUR APPROACH12:42:05 MAS 370 Departure Malaysian Three Seven Zero12:42:10 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero selamat pagi identified. Climbflight level one eight zero cancel SID turn right direct toIGARI12:42:48 MAS 370 Okay level one eight zero direct IGARI Malaysian one errThree Seven Zero12:42:52 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero contact Lumpur Radar OneThree Two Six good nightMAS 370 Night One Three Two Six Malaysian Three Seven ZeroLUMPUR RADAR (AREA)12:46:51 MAS 370 Lumpur Control Malaysian Three Seven Zero12:46:51 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero Lumpur radar Good Morningclimb flight level two five zero12:46:54 MAS370 Morning level two five zero Malaysian Three Seven Zero12:50:06 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero climb flight level three five zero12:50:09 MAS370 Flight level three five zero Malaysian Three Seven Zero01:01:14 MAS370 Malaysian Three Seven Zero maintaining level three five zero01:01:19 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero01:07:55 MAS370 Malaysian...Three Seven Zero maintaining level three fivezero01:08:00 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero01:19:24 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero contact Ho Chi Minh 120 decimal 9 Good Night01:19:29 MAS370 Good Night, Malaysian Three Seven Zero# end of file/BIT 30 March # Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Who is that guy in the simulator on CNN?Kind of softens your view of the man behind the plaid shirts.Yeah, if this is a true story, I admire this guy for his achievements. Can't trust CNN though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inchman Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 No real downside to trusting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nighthawk Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Thanks Kip, that kinda helps. Thanks Moon for the welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 12:50:09 MAS370 Flight level three five zero Malaysian Three Seven Zero01:01:14 MAS370 Malaysian Three Seven Zero maintaining level three five zero01:01:19 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero01:07:55 MAS370 Malaysian...Three Seven Zero maintaining level three fivezero01:08:00 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero01:19:24 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero contact Ho Chi Minh 120 decimal 9 Good Night01:19:29 MAS370 Good Night, Malaysian Three Seven ZeroI wonder why MH370 repeated the level call 6 minutes after ATC had already acknowledged him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 01:19:24 ATC Malaysian Three Seven Zero contact Ho Chi Minh 120 decimal 9 Good Night01:19:29 MAS370 Good Night, Malaysian Three Seven ZeroI wonder why MH370 repeated the level call 6 minutes after ATC had already acknowledged him?Didn't read back the freq, either. Maybe a minor omission, but significant especially going from one FIR to another... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Didn't read back the freq, either. Maybe a minor omission, but significant especially going from one FIR to another...Yes. Was that omission bad R/T or someone distracted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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