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  1. Notwithstanding, the views of a single anonymous person posting a diatribe on YouTube does nothing to sway my opinion. Even if he really is an Egyptian, I have as much right to speak for Canada or Protestants as The Pharaoh has for Muslims or Egypt... probably more. At least I don't hide behind a handle that hides my identity. A YouTube video doesn't make someone smart or right.
  2. Found the link on YouTube directly and indicated it above. I was concerned that the original address was a spoof.
  3. Link isn't a link, DEF. But, in addition, it has a funny URL. Instead of, it is Personally, I wouldn't load or click a link a site that appeared to try to spoof a legit site. See my message below before clicking on Kip's embedded link. Not sure why it is showing up as above. The link directly to YouTube is
  4. I still don't understand why news agencies continue to feed the hope of infamy for future terrorists by repeating the names and showing the photos of the cowards who carry out these acts. I can understand it up to the point of capture or death of this scum so that either of those conditions may be effected, but after that, they should be relegated to anonymity, not made heroes of. Much of the inspiration for terrorist acts (whether religious or random) is the desire to become famous. Take that away, and at least some of them would go away. In the case of Germanwings, the copilot even tol
  5. It was GWB's "liberation" of Iraq that gave ISIS the foothold that they needed to get started. ISIS wasn't even on the radar in 2001. As is often the case, "hundreds of millions of dollars worth" of advanced military equipment left behind in the hands of "friendlies" by the US in Iraq came to be used by the enemy (ISIS) as Sunni areas fell to ISIS, supported by Iran due to their forced isolation. The isolation of Iran and Syria that was initiated by the US caused them to have nothing to lose and the hatred of the US that ensued encouraged them to support (or at least not oppose) IS
  6. While I disagree with the concept, if any group should have a modicum of support for it, it should be us .... Think of the potential increase in air traffic if all the rich people gave money to those who could not afford to travel (or had wasted their money on other things). . Think about how it would help our economy if people who wanted something just had someone else who had earned the money pay for it. Oh.... we already have that... it's called the NDP. Nevermind.
  7. DEF, Islamic women in Canada have as much legal control over what they wear as Mennonite or Hutterite women or men wear or what Sikh or Jewish men wear. In all of these religions, there are norms and expectations as to clothing and coverage based on religious and social tradition. It is up to the individual, from a legal perspective, as to what they want to wear and whether they accept their particular slice of society's norms. There are familial consequences for not obeying your spouse or your parents based on their expectations. Some would just rather follow their family's guidanc
  8. Well, Kip, thank you for your service. If you want to call that patronizing, then so be it. Notwithstanding, having been "in" it doesn't mean that your opinion counts any more than mine or that it is right or that you love this country more than me. It also doesn't give any individual the right to define what values the flag stands for. The flag stands for the values contained in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. We just can't choose to make up new ones or exceptions to that document. Virtually every modern society stands for the same values contained in it so it can't be that wrong. I
  9. I feel very strongly about our flag, too, Kip, but I feel more strongly about the values that it represents than any physical piece of cloth. If someone desecrates the Canadian flag, I will defend it up to the point of where the values that it represents are not compromised. No further. For if one crosses that line, they, themselves no longer deserve to call it theirs. The Canadian flag stands for many very good things... tolerance, acceptance, freedom from persecution, freedom from prejudice, freedom of religion, fairness, the rule of law... I'm not suggesting that you are doing this bu
  10. In that post, there are examples where maybe a dozen individuals are burning flags (I didn't bother counting). It does not mean that the majority of Muslims hate other countries or the west in general. I would guess that many are standing by, saying nothing, because they are afraid to stand up against what appears to be an overwhelming opinion. The fact is that, if people like me and Boestar didn't speak up against the generalizations presented here that lead to racism, someone reading this board would think that we were ALL a bunch of Muslim haters.
  11. I wouldn't have to be an apologist if there wasn't those who want to incite hate and fear and promote bigotry by presenting rhetoric and selective evidence to bring a bad light against a largely peaceful and law abiding people. I don't defend the individuals who perpetrate crimes and use a radical interpretation of a religion as an excuse to do so. But neither do I suffer those who would use people's religion to incite hate in the hopes that I might prevent others from falling into the trap. Generally, moderate people try to avoid the confrontation so it appears on the surface that they a
  12. Ok, I was wrong. There have been some beheadings in the west. There have been some by non-muslims, too. We could go back and forth on this forever. Many of the people in these examples are native born in the country of commission so are not part of the feared cohort of immigrants. Most of them would be considered mentally deficient or insane and clearly misinterpreted the intent of Islam or there would be thousands of these killings by the faithful followers of Muhammed. How do we explain the low numbers if it is every Muslim's requirement to kill the infidels? This is a list of 11 c
  13. Maverick, None of those atrocities that you point out can be singled out as belonging to Muslims alone. Gang rapes have occurred in every war. I don't know of any Muslim gang rapes in any western nation other than the groping that occurred in Germany. Gang rapes have occurred in recent years in India and lots occur every year in the US perpetrated by 'educated' college males. In 2010, there was almost 200,000 rapes in the US. Over 50% of gang rapes in the US are perpetrated by groups within fraternities. Many ethnic groups exercise their own "laws". I grew up in Hamilton and there w
  14. I'm starting to see your point of view, DEFCON. I found the following passages that show the violence of the Quran. I shall terrorize the [heathens]. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them, because they oppose Muhammed and his apostle. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. Who so fighteth in the way of Muhammed, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had no
  15. After his flight (al-hijra) from Mecca in 622 Mohammad with his followers settled in Yathrib, subsequently renamed Medina al-Nabi ('City of the Prophet') where he managed to draw up a 'social contract',[18] widely referred to as the 'Constitution of Medina'.[19] This contract, known as the Leaf (ṣaḥīfa) upheld the peaceful coexistence between Muslims, Jews and Christians, defining them all, under given conditions, as constituting the umma, or community of that city, and granting the latter freedom of religious thought and practice.[20] Yathrib/Medina was not homogeneous. Alongside the 200 odd