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"10 Things Trump Supporters Are Too Stupid To Realize"

Mitch Cronin

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J.O.

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Dan Rather says it so well. Yeah I know, another wealthy left-wing media windbag. Because the only time that you're allowed to be successful and/or wealthy and have an opinion is when you have the "right" opinion. :rolleyes:

 

The headlines of the moment are in the growing roll call of prominent Republicans who are rescinding their support for Donald Trump. But I am left wondering how his candidacy and those who supported, enabled it, and abetted him until now, will be viewed through the long lens of history. It should be noted that many conservative editorial boards and critics have already come out against Trump long before this latest bombshell in very stark terms. 

Apparently everyone has a line, and yet do you feel things would be different if all of these politicians thought Trump could still win in November? 

And what should we make of all the other groups who have been insulted and marginalized by Trump and yet his supporters stood by him?

He attacked Mexicans as rapists and murderers - but that was not enough. 

He called for barring Muslims from entering the country - but that was not enough. 

He incited violence in his rallies - but that was not enough. 

He publicly mocked the disabled - but that was not enough. 

He retweeted anti-Semitic memes - but that was not enough. 

He demeaned a Gold Star Family - but that was not enough. 

He insulted the press and railed against their Constitutional freedoms - but that was not enough. 

He said that those who suffer from PTSD were weak - but that was not enough. 

He had a long history of misogynist and sexist comments - but that was not enough. 

He repeatedly lied on issues big and small - but that was not enough. 

He refused to release his tax records or health records - but that was not enough. 

He joked about violence against his political rival - but that was not enough. 

I know some equate Donald Trump with Nazisim - that goes too far for me. But in recent hours I have been hearing echoes of the chilling poem by the German anti-Nazi theologian Martin Niemöller about the culpability of his country's elite in the rise of Nazism.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."

America's better nature has always been to speak out for the marginalized and dispossessed. It is an ideal for which we have all too often fallen far short. What about now?

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JO.....

Simplistic, I admit but to my mind, here is a sliver of the problem. The "revelations" about Trump's private locker-room banter with Bush---recorded on tape 11 years ago from a live microphone without the knowledge or consent of Trump or Bush---- rendered the public and press deaf to the partial transcripts of Clinton's fund-raising speeches to Wall Street. Specifically, in those private meetings, she stated that she would like to see a world-wide open market. She then stated that there was a necessary difference between public statements and personal beliefs.

Isn't that the trait that offends the public---- the willingness of politicians to say whatever is necessary to get elected? They stick their moistened finger in the air to calculate the substance of their latest public statement of principle.

No one could accuse Trump of that characteristic and hence his popularity amongst the jaded public. He has no boundaries and no internal regulator and therefore, you see him as he is with warts and blemishes fully on display. In the result, many understand the potential threat to public safety that he poses. But--- there is a very substantial segment of the population who are looking only at his "honesty" ( "He tells it like it is!").......and continue to offer their support.

If a majority of voters make the "wrong" decision, you accept the result and work to effect change over the next four years. 

I don't believe Trump will be elected but I think America will suffer unless and until politicians become true not only to themselves but also to the electorate. Or......another "Trump" appears who has more character and substance.....no warts or blemishes if such a candidate can be imagined.

Above all, it must be understood that there are a LOT of voters who desperately wanted Trump or someone similar and that simply confirms that the "status quo" politician is at risk. There must be change.

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Re-posted.

If Trump is elected, bet most, if not all women working in the White House, will require a buddy whenever they are around him, especially those with attributes that he has indicated that turns him on. Hmmm.

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9 minutes ago, Boney said:

If Trump is elected, bet most, if not all women working in the White House, will require a buddy whenever they are around him, especially those with attributes that he has indicated that turns him on.

There'll be a predator skulking about the halls of the White House no matter who is elected.

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I think Malcolm offered the appropriate response over on the other thread Boney.

I wonder if any of you Clinton supporters ever stopped to visualize the scene; the POTUS is seated at the Resolute Desk in the Oval Office, naked from the waste down and busying himself inserting cigars into the vagina of a 'girl' not much older than his teenage daughter who was spread eagle on said desk ... and people think Trump is a pervert that's unfit for the Presidency because he engages in braggadocios locker room banter from time-to-time???

Now, because everyone was a consenting adult, Lewinsky included, I didn't think it was fair for Republican puritans to disparage Bill just because he expresses his passion in ways they might not approve of. However, I am willing to make a exception this time out only because Hilary and her campaigners, which includes Bill, are trying to smear Trump for being a somewhat typical guy. Team Clinton is the 'pot' in this case and imo they're taking things way too far when they attempt to frame Trump as the 'black kettle'.

 

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Trump slams Canada with another fact checked flip flop...

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/10/09/donald-trump-canada_n_12423178.html

It was bound to happen sooner or later.

Donald Trump brought up Canadian health care as an example of a “flawed” public system during the second U.S. presidential debate at Washington University in St. Louis on Sunday.

During a discussion about health care, the Republican nominee repeated a lie saying when Canadians “need a need a big operation, they come into the United States in many cases, because their system is so slow.”

“Their system is so flawed,” Trump said, before calling it “catastrophic in certain ways.”

Trump’s claims may have conflated the findings of a Fraser Institute report published last year that found 52,000 Canadians travelled abroad for non-emergency medical treatment.

There is no information within the report to support Trump’s debate claim that droves of Canadians are choosing to go to specifically American facilities to pay expensive medical fees for major procedures.

The highest number of Canadian “medical tourists” were neurosurgery patients — 2.6 per cent went out of country for specialist treatment in 2014. There is no data to show how many went to the U.S. versus elsewhere.

Those who do go abroad for medical attention may do so for a variety of reasons including long waits for quality health care at home, or recommendations by experts, the report notes.

Trump confuses Clinton’s position

While discussing the Affordable Care Act, Trump falsely accused Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton of advocating for a publicly funded single-payer system.

He appeared to have confused the differing positions on health care held by Clinton and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.

Under Clinton’s plan, the government would have an increased role in the system. The current one is a hybrid of employer-sponsored coverage, government programs such as Medicare and Medicaid, and private insurance.

Approximately 11 million Americans have private coverage, whereas about 155 million have job-based coverage.

Clinton reiterated that while Trump would repeal the act, she would stick with the program and fix it. She acknowledged that prices remain high.

Still, Trump blasted the program by calling it expensive, saying it “will never work,” adding it is “very bad” and provides "very bad health insurance.”

“We have to repeal it and replace it with something absolutely much less expensive,” he said.

Trump's comment contradicts the praise he applied to Canada’s health-care system last year.

“As far as single-payer, it works in Canada,” Trump said during the first GOP debate last August.

“It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here,” he said at the time.

Trump's about-face on Canadian health care made quite an impact online. Several notable Canadian personalities ranging from "Schitt's Creek" co-creator Dan Levy to Juno winners Tegan and Sara, author Kelly Oxford and actress Tara Spencer-Nairn were among the many to share their takes on his revised opinion.

Long waits under the Canadian system have commonly been cited as a problem by American lawmakers and critics in recent years.

One notable exchange involved Toronto physician Dr. Danielle Martin when she was called before a U.S. Senate subcommittee examining health-care systems from around the world in 2014.

Republican Sen. Richard Burr asked Martin, “On average how many Canadian patients on a waiting list die each year? Do you know?”

Her response to the anti-Obamacare senator: “I don’t, sir, but I know that there are 45,000 in America who die waiting because they don’t have insurance at all.”

 

And the flip flop is from Trump's statement not too long ago...

http://www.weeklystandard.com/donald-trump-praises-canadas-socialist-health-care-system-it-works/article/1006583

 

The man leading the GOP primary polls made it clear on Thursday night that he still has a high opinion of health care systems that are to the left of Obamacare.

During the first GOP debate, moderator Bret Baier said to Donald Trump, "15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system."

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada," Trump replied. "It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you're talking about here." Trump didn't explain what might have changed in the last 15 years that would prevent the United States from adopting Canadian-style health care.

So will Trump's praise of socialist health care hurt him in the GOP primary? It's not clear. Polls suggest that Trump supporters aren't all that conservative and what they really like about him is his brash demeanor:

 

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"During a discussion about health care, the Republican nominee repeated a lie saying when Canadians “need a need a big operation, they come into the United States in many cases, because their system is so slow.” "

If a single adjective (wealthy) were added to precede 'Canadians' in the sentence quoted above, Donald's comment would be 100% spot on.

As it stands then, the story the Huffington Post has tried to pass off as investigative journalism is really nothing more than a pathetic attempt to steer the reader and have him reach a false conclusion. The sad reality; it would seem that the Democratic establishment's strategy to confuse and obfuscate their Party faithful appears to be working well ...

 

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"During a discussion about health care, the Republican nominee repeated a lie saying when Canadians “need a need a big operation, they come into the United States in many cases, because their system is so slow.”

Well, I'm obviously pro-Canada and our system but he's not completely wrong in what he said - many people do travel outside the country and pay for treatment to avoid having to wait for it at home.

I almost beat DEFCON.  I see we are saying the same thing.

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