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  1. My brother just returned from Cuba. He came home to find his son's family in quarantine. His daughter-in- law came down with Covid. She hadn't travelled anywhere
  2. Lol.....note that you guys recognized the reference!! By the way...CTV reports of the results of a study on false positives from rapid antigen tests. The percentage of positives during the study period was very low BUT of those, 42% were false positive. Since I'm known to err due to my advanced...VERY advanced age.....trust but verify.
  3. MOST IMPORTANTLY, IF YOU DECIDE TO TRAVEL ANYWAY AND SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WE DON'T WANT TO HEAR OR READ YOUR WHINES. Quote I don't know the author of the post from which this was extracted but I for one do want to know the hurdles encountered during travel. Canada recommends against international travel ( including the US) and shortly after, the US raises the warning level for Canada to Level 4; don't go. And yet, the greatest risk of infection for both Canadians and Americans is community spread; the carriers are their friends and families. Again....so little of it makes sense. Omicron didn't originate elsewhere and migrate to NA. It evolved wherever it was ....BC; On; Fl; Ca....but remarkably in the same way without (known) communication. How in God's name does it do that? I really, really want to travel but I'm simply not prepared to cross all of the barriers that have been or may be erected in a futile attempt to limit the spread. Apologies but commuting between residences located in two countries doesn't qualify ( to me) as travel. Friends just flew to the Bahamas and have vowed; "No more!" On another forum....post after post by people who had Covid previously; were fully vaccinated and "boostered"; and....got Covid again!! When will it end? Will it end? Where the hell is "the Shadow" when you need an answer?
  4. I was planning my return home to "re-set" my insurance. Scheduling the FREE PCR test is problematic given the current load on labs and trying to coordinate the likely time of result to flight schedules. If I got the test on Friday, I had only one flight in the window of opportunity. If I got it Saturday, there were three flights BUT the first two were 42 and 46 hours post-test. So....off to the airport boarding pass in hand waiting for that email. It didn't come. Return home for a beer ( or two) and wait and again head to the airport still awaiting the email with test results. The flight was delayed. Just as well....the email came right around sched departure. Is there any stress associated with travel? Yup!! I know of other travellers scheduling multiple tests in an effort to increase the probability of a timely result. They don't seem to appreciate that they are adding to the burden on the system.
  5. Found that Moeman but I very much appreciate you taking the time to "retrieve and post". I'll be damned if I can figure out the rationale given the high number of re-infections. I assume (never do that) the explanation relates to the period of time one would test positive even though fully recovered.
  6. Rudder.....essential info almost lost in the deluge of articles! Can you expound? If I get tested on Saturday and get a positive result, I thought I couldn't get on the plane. If I understand you correctly, 10 days after the positive test, I'm "good to go"? So the requirement of a test being conducted within 72 hours of the flight is bypassed? And no quarantine on arrival? Do you have a reference? Thx bunches
  7. I want to write to someone and complain but I've noted the deity never responds within my timeframe (life). Notwithstanding Ontario's drastic response ( a little late?), I keep reading that essentially everyone can expect to be exposed to the virus and most will have no or minimal symptoms. Glad to read you're a "minimalist", Mo and hope you recover fully soon, Leeroy. I am reluctantly returning to Ontario on Monday with fingers crossed that I will have the PCR results in time. Here in Florida, the demand for tests is over-whelming and resulting in significant delays in analysis. I'll be counting the days until my return to sunny skies and sand between my toes with fingers crossed that the US and Canada don't do anything silly with our border controls.
  8. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://health-desk.org/articles/what-do-we-know-about-false-positives-with-rapid-antigen-testing&ved=2ahUKEwj184qEtP30AhWlQjABHTNGDmsQFnoECDMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2IUIdQ7M-BmLyFoW8IP0ez This link may not work....sorry...https://health-desk.org/articles The suggestion is that most antigen tests are effective identifying covid in symptomatic patients. I'm finding a surprising conflict in the analysis of percentage false positive results and suspect that arises because many studies focus on symptomatic patients. Anyway....my belief that I should have received a re-test is supported in this article I've referenced. As an aside....my PCR to travel back to Canada was free at Walgreens. My SwiftHealth test at YYZ....the "false positive" was $67. A further antigen test at Shoppers was $40. The drive-thru antigen tests in Florida are also free. If testing is so fundamental, why is Canada (and Ontario) again "behind the curve"? The best they can collectively do is caution; "Don"t engage in non-essential international travel". And did anyone note the PM's comment that the number of cases attributable to cross-border travel was "infinitestimal"!!
  9. Specs....I recently was confronted by a report of a "positive" result from a rapid antigen. Not many days earlier, I had a "negative" PCR ...98% accuracy.....and for the 8 days preceding the antigen test, I only had contact with two people one of whom was my wife who tested negative when I tested positive. I immediately reached out to the other person to report the result. My wife then administered a similar rapid test which generated a negative result. I had high confidence that my first test was a "false positive". I returned to that testing site. They refused to re-test. I went directly to a different testing site ( government-authorized) and obtained another test which was again negative. I wrote a letter of complaint to SwiftHealth which is selling testing services to the public knowing they generate almost 30% in "false positives" without any recourse ( or refund!). A re-test at my expense if confirmatory was not burdensome but would have saved me (and others) a lot of unnecessary anxiety. The other contact referenced chose to get a PCR. He was also negative. No one said it was going to be easy!
  10. A quick note that there appears to be a very high response in Florida to the suggestion of testing before gathering. I passed by a free testing site in Ft.Myers this morning and there was a significant number of cars snaking through the parking lot.
  11. "Skirted".....does that refer to understanding and complying with all restrictions; for example....flying into US but returning (via the US) by automobile? "Entitlement" is not a pejorative. But I acknowledge; not everyone is entitled.
  12. Why would you suggest that? Surely you have been offered guidance in the past that you chose not to follow. Every study has concluded that travel per se contributes little to the spread of the virus. It is close and prolonged interaction with others without adequate protection....ie; community spread. This "reprimand" is once again political optics; "Canadians will not listen to us if elected representatives ignore our guidance ". You live in a multi-family condo in downtown Brampton but have the opportunity to stay in a single-family home on a 5 acre estate in Florida. Where do you think you'd be safer?
  13. I figured it out!! Either Seeker or Critical Thinker ( or both of them) is Aaron Rodgers...Green Bay qb. He stated he did not vaxx for a few reasons one of which was; " I am a Critical Thinker". I think he intended to drop out "a". He also asserted that by reason of his extensive research, he knew he would benefit from a course of ivermectin. It is assumed he meant the "human dose". That's my contribution to solving the puzzle.
  14. Guessing the irony was just too much! Lol
  15. Hmmm! Just wondering....speed limits are NOT in our collective interest? And despite ALL of the incentives etc quoted, people still speed. Why do you think that is.....stupidity? Selfishness? A failure to shed the childhood belief in one's immortality?
  16. I have no inside knowledge of course and I did read that Ms.Freeland sounded adamant about maintaining the test requirement but I believe there will be a "softening" of this position. Give them time to appreciate the negative response to a requirement of both testing and vaccination and that formal position may change. Trust me...both sides of the border harbour strong opposition to the continuation of the testing regime for the fully vaccinated.
  17. I'm missing something. Specs...are you referring to fuel costs? Maybe the expense of a pcr to re-enter Canada? I believe that negative test result for vaccinated travellers is being eliminated. I'm looking forward to the trip down but my vehicle stays there until next Spring so fingers crossed for a reasonable commute throughout this winter.
  18. From where I sit, there appears to be a group of participants prepared to cheer each other on in their mutual support of every step urged by government to suppress Covid. Although a worthy goal, why are some so reluctant to buttress their position or support their expression of opinion? I note that I asked a simple question of DH. He didn't deign to reply but did offer up a cheer for a later poster questioning Seeker. People are resisting vaccination. At least some of them are intelligent and informed. Don't you want ( and need) to understand why? Isn't that potentially in your own best interests?
  19. By the way...anybody here watching college football...today and last week? I'm guessing I have seen a total of at least 6-7 stadiums.....70,000+ people. The absence of masks and distancing is remarkable. Does that make a vaccine-hesitant person more questioning as to the necessity of injection?
  20. JO.....Seeker can obviously speak for himself but may I point out that his remarks were prefaced; I know quite few who are not vaccinated and will not be if they can manage it. Their concerns (in no particular order); I understood his following comments to be a characterization of the people HE knows....not the "marketers".
  21. At times when I was young, my mother told me I was a little piggie. Later and in adolescence (and older), I had a few women suggest that I was something of a pig. I am pleased to now read that pigs may have immunity to Covid. I may not need that booster!!
  22. Thank you, Seeker. I was aware that despite media characterizations, many intelligent and informed individuals are opposed to the Covid vaccination. Hence my reference in a post to Vsplat to the "great unwashed"....tongue firmly in cheek. However, as stated I have never discussed the issue with someone opposed and hoped that DH took the opportunity. While in Florida last season, a number of people I knew said they believed they had the infection in Dec/Jan of 19/20. I don't know whether they got vaccinated so never had that conversation but I suspect that if they did not, their natural immunity might have been relevant. I think that if I had been infected and was asymptomatic or only mildly ill, I would have been very reluctant to submit to the vaccine. However...if it was a pre-condition to travel, I would likely have submitted. Lol..and yet here we are 8 months later and I STILL can't go anywhere!!
  23. DH....I personally have not had any discussions with anyone who made a conscious decision to refuse vaccination. I assume that your sailing friends are intelligent and well-informed. Did you boldly go where no man (etc)? Did you engage in "the" conversation "why not"? You posed the question here about reticence though I suspect most participants are vaccinated. Would that question not best be posed to good friends? I for one would very much like to read their explanation.
  24. Vsplat....please let me expand upon a point in my earlier post. I have taken the numbers that follow from both the Alberta government website and Stats Can. 72% (+) of the population of Alberta have been fully vaccinated. The Alta pop is 4,400,000 so 3,168,000 residents have been vaccinated. There are approximately 600,000 people 12 and under who are ineligible for vaccination. Therefore, almost 3,800,000 of the population are either vaccinated or ineligible. There have been a total of 278,000 cases. So....of the over-12 pop of Alta...there are 354,000 "vulnerable" residents spread, of course, across the entire Province. Given those numbers, you'd almost be compelled to agree that the most likely sources of new infections are; 1) the vaccinated; 2) children under 12; 3) unvaccinated (least likely). The same information definitely confirms...say again...CONFIRMS....that those now most at risk are persons who are unvaccinated. The decision by Mary to refuse vaccination places her at greater risk of infection, serious illness and hospitalization and of becoming an unnecessary burden upon health resources. Now...that's not hyperbole or opinion based on news reports....that's simply fact.
  25. I understood you to say that " the great unwashed" ( the unvaccinated) were spreading the disease and single-handedly over-whelming the health care system. I reviewed the sources you quoted which primarily consisted of news reportage. I don't believe the triage plan has yet been implemented. In any event....nothing about over-whelmed nurses etc. Tired? Yes. Objecting to delayed vacations and overtime? Yes....as expressed by their union. There are 322 ICU beds available in Alta. Of those, 215 are occupied by "Covid cases". Lord knows how many have ancillary serious medical conditions. Of the 215, ICU beds are occupied by 15 fully vaccinated individuals. There is a total of 19,200 active cases in Alta. It seems that you pick and choose amongst the points presented to you and respond only to some, re-packaging to facilitate your response. Nothing unusual in that; most do but I trust you will appreciate that I showed you respect by actually researching the arguments you made.
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