UpperDeck

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  1. Don't agree. Covid is not akin to Rubella or other similar diseases. It has a lifespan and will expire. Once that time arrives, proof of vaccination is irrelevant. I know...Covid is not simply a " bad flu" but.....we do not currently require proof of a recent flu vaccine injection as a condition of travel and yet we know influenza to be an "annual". And infection causes death...in some. This too will pass.
  2. Ok....so if you DON'T require contributions....may I please stand in your place and stead? Amazing, isn't it? Seeker...you and I joined this forum about the same time. How is it that we've remained so young and intellectually vigorous and everyone else has....how do you say that?.....aged!! Lol Best wishes for another 20+ years of AEF....and God forbid I should experience another passing of the mantle.
  3. I won't even try to fully comprehend the difference but I believe T-cells are more effective at responding to an unknown virus whereas B-cells recognize and respond to known "invaders". I believe that they are very different and in some respects, the B-cells are tools deployed by T-cells. As suggested in an aged post, some people have a proactive immune response to the Covid virus presumably because they have previously been exposed to a variant that is recognized by their body's immune response system.
  4. Forgive me but I think your comment and the approval of followers is misplaced to say the least. The presumptions preceding judgment are somewhat overwhelming. Here in Canada, my wife and I live in a sparsely populated area on a farm property. No one has been inside our house....friend or otherwise....since March. We wear masks whenever in a public setting and have since inception. My wife has worked throughout as cabin crew and has a routine that is strictly followed. She is my "risk factor" and we work together to mitigate that risk. We are fortunate enough to have a motor yac
  5. I should add that as said by Mo32....we acknowledge our good fortune in that quarantine for us is not particularly burdensome so a very small price to pay for the pleasure of sunshine....and cheap beer.
  6. You are a very smart cookie! Yup....that is definitely a factor in my calculations. I plan to return mid-Dec.; quarantine and HOPE I can drive back down in Jan. with my truck and my " necessaries". Honestly....we're going " bare bones" for the first six weeks with plans to buy some essentials and do without others.
  7. Quarantining is a required consequence of potentially being contaminated. It is not targeted at inbound travellers per se but certainly applies to those travellers. I am outbound next week. I am watching loads and note that for eg, RSW is oversold and FLL flights almost full out of YUL. I conclude that those travellers, like me, consider being homebound for 2 weeks in the winter is not much of a burden if lying on sun-washed beaches is the reward. My point was simply that whatever Covid rrstrictions exist, they are not, in general terms, directed at airlines per se as compared to man
  8. Homerun.....requiring that inbound pax quarantine is not a measure directed at airlines. What other countries mandate for the presumed protection of their citizenry is not the responsibility of our government. In short, airlines are obviously impacted by Covid but I don't think our government is " at fault" nor do I believe Canadian taxpayers should subsidize/compensate airlines. Consider by way of comparison the government mandate that first closed bars and restaurants and then restricted operations to 30% of capacity. Should you not advocate that those operators be compensated for losse
  9. One observation made some time ago but not referenced here though relevant is the discovery that many asymptomatic persons had active T-cell responses that were almost immediate. Imagine T-cells as our primary line of defence. If our body is attacked and is prepared ( the T-cells are armed and ready), the virus can be repelled. For reasons as yet unknown, the immune systems of SOME individuals recognized the Covid virus and were " armed and ready". This fact reinforces the arguments that Covid-19 is a variant or was introduced much earlier than initially believed. It also supports Turbofa
  10. Turbofan... Huh? Suggest you re-read my post with more widely- focussed lenses. I was SUPPORTING your position that lockdowns were punitive and not demonstrably a meani gful longterm inhibition to virus spread.
  11. Turbofan.... Your problem is....you're thinking. In absolute terms, there were only so many ways in which to respond to this virus. Death was an inevitable regardless and yet it is that unavoidable consequence that is invoked to support one's favoured response. Reductio ab adsurdum.....lock yourself and loved ones in a room. Assuming you are not infected, you will not succumb to the virus. You will starve to death. Simply wearing a mask and washing your hands ( regularly), will limit but not prevent exposure.....but to whom or what? The virus or to persons infected?
  12. Interesting study about the significant increase in the deaths of crows ( ravens) since Covid. It is attributed to the increase in trucking ( essential business) and a corresponding decrease in automobile traffic. As many know, crows deploy a lookout when the "murder" finds a tasty bit of roadkill. Apparently, the lookouts are able to give warning by saying "Caw! Caw!" but they can't say; " Truck! Truck!"
  13. The question that occurred to me as I watched the news segments regarding the Barrett nomination was why some attendees thereafter tested positive while many others in very close proximity did not. Mark Meadows and the AG must have very strong immune systems!!
  14. The question was rhetorically expressed above about why cases of infection increase while deaths decrease. I will suggest that this virus like all others has a will to survive. It mutates to ensure replication. The death of the host serves no purpose and so it modifies itself to become less lethal and more easily transmitted. It LEARNS! To me....that is a VERY scary notion and yet I believe it to be widely accepted by epidemiologists. I live in a community of around 100,000 people. We have 2 active cases. Within this community, apart from the masks ( not universal), you would no
  15. I do not understand the fervent support for excluding US non-Canadian citizens from Canada. Impose and enforce a quarantine period; require a negative Covid test result; enforce mask mandates. The list is endless. There are reasonable alternatives to impenetrable "border walls". Putting it in perspective, many of "us" have been in the US since March. The only requirement upon returning to Canada was to quarantine. There is no evidence that we are "typhoid Mary's". Like many other snowbirds, I'm headed south in a few weeks. I will NOT be required to quarantine in the US but unfortuna
  16. Devil's advocate....What purpose does air travel serve? Transportation...relatively quickly...from A to B. And for what purpose? To conduct business or to marvel at the wonders of B. Increasingly, companies are discovering that it is not actually necessary to go to B to conduct business. In fact, it is much cheaper to stay home and use tech to communicate just as though you actually went to B. Wait for wide availability and affordability of VR. I've been to Santorini. It would have been a lot cheaper and probably more enjoyable to see the sights via VR. Truthfully, mos
  17. Simply put...I don't agree that the company is necessarily at fault. Neither you nor I were present and even accounts by people present differ. The circumstances clearly warranted in the opinion of the crew cancellation of the flight for the safety of both crew and passengers. That is a very significant command decision not undertaken lightly. Given that fact and extrapolating, I have no doubt that this particular family were reacting to the " mask issue" in a manner that intended or not was involving other passengers. As a contingent pax, that in and of itself is a very strong
  18. My first reaction was.....why would this pax be contacting the press to complain about his alleged mistreatment. His initial complaint to the press made no reference to an older child who was not wearing a mask. He then acknowledged that fact stating that once that child was under control, the cabin crew wanted the infant to also be masked. BUT.....everybody and his brother ( working as cabin crew) know that infants don't require masks. Obviously, the issue had exploded whilst attempting to persuade the older child to wear a mask. And I mean exploded...to a degree that other passengers, not fu
  19. Fido...I don't understand your comment. A person who tests positive for the virus may recover without resulting sequelae or may in fact have no symptoms. However, the persons with whom that infected individual comes into contact may not be so fortunate. What is imperative is to identify infected individuals and then protect others from potential spread. If one assumes that everyone is a potential carrier then you can initiate defensive manoevres that will give you an increased probability of avoiding infection.
  20. My wife got a call that she had worked a flight with a pax on board who tested positive. The call was more than 14 days after the flight so was a " courtesy call" ; "Glad to hear you weren't infected." (as evidenced by symptoms). Of course, you COULD be asymptomatic but what the hey! Now if you're notified of an infected pax within the incubation period, you are released with pay and quarantine. If, however, from an abundance of caution, you go and get tested and are positive, you lose your flights and you're " charged" for a book off. Something seems amiss. And meanwhile, on EV
  21. JO.....I'm approaching a milestone and had accumulated points with the intention to use my wife's award pass plus those points to travel 1st class ( or Business) around the world. Those plans have been postponed not because of finances but rather because a significant element of the planned trip was enjoying the best that the best airlines in the world could offer. And now? None of them are " at their best". So we'll hope for brighter skies " tomorrow".
  22. Suzanne took me down to her place near the river ( where) you could hear the boats go by..... Never found that depressing. More promising.
  23. It is reported that the highest rate of transmission is found in enclosed spaces where people both eat and drink....bars; restaurants; wedding venues etc. Once infected, of course, those individuals become potential carriers to others not engaging in such activities but insufficiently vigilant. Commercial carriers are unfortunately driven ( understandably) by the search for revenue. No one is flying in AC "J" because the premium for the seat without service is too high. Solution? Resume service in "J" and hope for the best. Bottom line, when that asymptomatic infected individual lowers h
  24. I don't know how much of that is tongue-in-cheek ( if any), but may I suggest that an alternative ( more positive) approach is to postulate that 1) ALL aircraft will arrive safely at their intended or alternative destination and, 2) no one has been infected with the Covid virus. With respect to (2), we reduce from 100% uninfected by reference to those known to be infected. We quickly learn, based on current numbers, that 99% are uninfected. That is a more palatable percentage...agreed? And as it relates to (1), the percentage of deviation is significantly less. As a non-pilot, that
  25. I believe self restraint is a desirable quality. Wouldn't you agree? And yet one must try to find some way to communicate an "adverse" response. I think I succeeded. However, let me add that my post was incorrect. The Air Canada training program is 7 ( not 6 nor 1-2) weeks of full time training that the company deems necessary to meet Transport Canada requirements. I actually have stood beside an accused as counsel in defence of a murder charge.....three times....successfuly. But I would never for a moment suggest that I had what it takes to be a flight attendant. And to be clea