Mitch Cronin Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dion hasn't a snowball's chance. Harper will come close to a majority, but shy of it. The bird was perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 C'mon then... don't be chicken... let's hear it??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It will be a minority but hopefully one that has enough seats that it would take the combined votes of all those in opposition to defeat the government. That would cut down some of the crap we saw over the last two years and would also guarantee that any measure that really "sucks" could be defeated and perhaps others like Senate reform, crime reform be passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadji Ramjet Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 A Montreal paper today figured up to 183 for the Conservatives. Bit optimistic maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 There was talk elsewhere about the inadequacy of the Liberal Party preparation. In my riding, Conservative signs everywhere---nary one Liberal banner. Very surprising. Dion is pulling a Joe Clark!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Majority for Harper! Due to YYZ Lib's sucking it up, holding their nose and voting for MP's that will sit in POWER - thats where its at! We want CABINET Ministers in the Big Smoke! After one term they can re-evaluate their Liberal support. You know when Dion is given the punt. Chico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipped Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Well it looks like the U.K. will be Conservative soon and France just went Conservative. The U.S. looks like it will stay somewhat on the Conservative side if McCain can be called a Conservative. ...So .. with the civilized world giving up on out dated Liberal views once again, I will call a slim Harper majority....Seats 148-152. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blues deville Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 As of today, there are about 14 Liberal ridings in Quebec without any candidates. Doesn't sound good for Dion and his group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgirl Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Ralph Goodale was out knocking on doors on Sunday here in Regina. I know that as a fact as he knocked on my Mom's door. Some Liberals may not have been prepared but Ralph was! Dion is not the man to lead the Liberals. Anybody have a better alternative? I too believe that Harper will win again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 170+ for the good guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
better4me Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Well it looks like the U.K. will be Conservative soon and France just went Conservative. The U.S. looks like it will stay somewhat on the Conservative side if McCain can be called a Conservative. ...So .. with the civilized world giving up on out dated Liberal views once again, I will call a slim Harper majority....Seats 148-152. In terms of the political view spectrum the following is true: Cdn Conservatives = US Democrats Cdn Liberals = Ralph Naders and the extreme Democratic left wing (the ones the republicans talk about left wing nuts). NDP = USA Communist party. There is no Canadian or first world equivalent to the USA Republican party. From a European perspective, the French Conservatives are about on par with the Cdn Liberals and they are equalled by the UK Labour party. The problem with left wing vs right wing call signs is that its predicated on where the countries center is located. Each country has a different center point. Kind of like each different airplane type has a different C of G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 In terms of the political view spectrum the following is true: Cdn Conservatives = US Democrats Cdn Liberals = Ralph Naders and the extreme Democratic left wing (the ones the republicans talk about left wing nuts). NDP = USA Communist party. There is no Canadian or first world equivalent to the USA Republican party. From a European perspective, the French Conservatives are about on par with the Cdn Liberals and they are equalled by the UK Labour party. The problem with left wing vs right wing call signs is that its predicated on where the countries center is located. Each country has a different center point. Kind of like each different airplane type has a different C of G. That's flat out ridiculous. It would take a right-wing wingnut to come to that conclusion. The Democrats favor real meaningful action on global warming. They are not advocates of smaller government. They have more liberal socio-cultural views than the Conservative base. They believe in supporting cities and mass transit, whereas the Conservatives are following a conscious policy of catering to smaller centres and rural communities. The diesel fuel tax cut is aimed squarely at farmers, truckers and fishers. The Conservatives are equivalent to the fiscally conservative Republications - only both have proven to be much bigger spenders than they bill themselves. Your other characterizations are equally bogus. You have no idea what the US communist party advocates, but if it hasn't changed its policies from what I read in the past, all but a handful of NDP supporters would find that way too extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 excuse me better$me but no way are Canada's Conservative equivalent to the US Democrats (ie Tax and Spend) Conservative Pary = Right Wing , Dem's = Left Wing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 No such thing as 'Left of Centre' in the US of A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockalicious Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Better4Me is on the money. The overwhelming majority of Democrats in the US would be Conservatives here (Dagger's Liberal talking points aside) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 You realize that "conservative" means two different things in Canada vs USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steam Driven Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 "The diesel fuel tax cut is aimed squarely at farmers, truckers and fishers." I'm not a Farmer, Fisher or Trucker, although I have a deep and abiding respect for each and every one of them, and I welcome the diesel fuel tax reduction. But then, I'm a White, English Speaking, Western Canadian Male with an above average income... I don't count... I just pay the bills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpy Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 My prediction is that it will be a close minority government, won by the conservatives. The thing that's going to spoil the party is the Green Party is going to win some seats this time and I would bet that they will join with the liberals and either take over, or make governing even more difficult than it was before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 My prediction is that it will be a close minority government, won by the conservatives. The thing that's going to spoil the party is the Green Party is going to win some seats this time and I would bet that they will join with the liberals and either take over, or make governing even more difficult than it was before. No your wrong there...the Greens will steal votes from both the NDP and Liberals. Both will just help the conservatives giving them a greater margin of victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hadji Ramjet Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 The diesel fuel tax cut is aimed squarely at farmers, truckers and fishers. No benefit at all to all those northern communities and isolated reserves that depend on diesel generators for electricity. Lots of opportunity for solar in Resolute during the arctic winter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted September 10, 2008 Share Posted September 10, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 15, 2008 Author Share Posted October 15, 2008 So, How'd we all do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rookie Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Good call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 "Voter turnout was just 59 per cent, the lowest in federal election history." Shameful. To any and all of you who did not vote. 4 out of 10 of us did not vote. 40% of what is posted here as criticism in the future months is totally invalid. When asked "Well, did you vote?", there's a 4 in 10 chance the poster is lying if they say "Yes" There is much to be shameful about this debacle. Harper's intransigence to Newfoundland (notwithstanding Danny W is a bit of a wingnut); Harper's idiot interference in the Quebec civil law system; Harper's stupid promise to withhold funding for the arts in one of Canada's most prolific province for creation of the arts. (Like it or not. It's politics). Harper's western vanity that led him to call the election in the first place in violation of his dogma to never call an election for partisan reasons; Harper's waste of nearly half a BILLION dollars which was the price of this fiasco. And Harper is not alone. Dion's lack of vision which blinded him to the stupid campaign centred on the carbon tax ESPECIALLY in light of the failure of the program in BC. To save the Liberal party the expense of a leadership review in May, Dion should just resign and change the leadership review to a leadership convention. If the Liberals then want to assure Harper of a majority in the next election, they'll elect Bob Rae as the new leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaEH Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 Shameful. To any and all of you who did not vote. 4 out of 10 of us did not vote. 40% of what is posted here as criticism in the future months is totally invalid. When asked "Well, did you vote?", there's a 4 in 10 chance the poster is lying if they say "Yes" Who are you or anyone else to criticize people for not voting? It's a choice and a choice many chose to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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