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100% There was concern that once the MAX returned to service that it would flood the market and negatively impact margins. Now that airlines have shrunk their capacity up to 90% it's going to take a very long time for things to return to what we once considered "normal".

Absolutely. Once a vaccine is developed people are going to travel. This event is going to change the world in a lot of ways. Travel won't be one of them for those that can afford it.

That is correct. And going to be reduced, too.

The future is so murky all of those may or may not pan out. Where we fly depends on what countries open their borders and where the Coronavirus is or isn't present. To suggest a geographic location as materializing or not has nothing to do with where the company wants to fly but where it's able to fly. Widebodies? The 787's are here and won't be going anywhere. The 767's are done. The max's present an interesting dilemma. I think WJ has soured on them and holding out for compensation is going to turn out to be a bad move that will result in massive compensation loss. We will shrink by necessity - returning leases, retiring 767's early. Swoop may be fallout but I think that's hope for people that just don't want it around. There is and will forever be a market for Swoop.

Lots of voluntary and involuntary leaves coming.

Crews should not be exempt. It's ridiculous to suggest they should be. Then again this is the same government that thinks closing its borders except to the US is good enough.

Loads inbound are very full. Loads outbound on the other hand.......

This was not a message for the public.

Has absolutely nothing to do with improving the bottom line. As of right now there is nothing but a bottom and it's falling out fast. Help us or we won't be here to help you.

Is there a safe airline right now? This is so widespread it's going to be hard to say who will survive. The biggest concern is going to be whether governments are capable of saving airlines in distress.

https://onemileatatime.com/lot-polish-airlines-suspends-flights/ Polish national airline LOT has announced that they will be suspending all flights as of March 15, 2020, for a period of 10 days. This includes the company’s flights from both Poland and Hungary (as they even operate long haul flights out of Budapest). While the company claims that cancelations will only last for 10 days, I’d note that I see all LOT fights “zeroed out” (meaning all inventory has been removed) through March 29, 2020. That suggests to me that they may plan on this lasting at least two weeks.

What do you define as "the peak"? Governments aren't going to have money to support airlines on the brink. Airlines are going to fail because of this. Airlines will accelerate fleet reductions. Capital expenditures will and are being delayed. Capacity and demand is going to drop significantly and it will take years to come back. In the meantime hospitality, tourism, and travel businesses - large and small - will fail. If people don't have jobs, why would they spend money on a trip they can't afford? Sorry but I'm not buying that there is going to be a quick recovery.

I highly doubt that by June airlines will be "back to capacity". Delta is parking 300 planes and has cut capacity by 40% with cuts through the summer. Most major airlines are similar.

What benefit does the union have by going to the media with this? Absolutely ridiculous.

Hmmm

Yes, silver lining for sure. Think about if this Coronavirus stretches way into summer and into the fall (which it no doubt will). Think about the timing of the return of Max aircraft coupled with big drops in demand. Not a pretty picture. Southwest's CEO says booking patterns are similar to that "post 9/11" domestically (USA). This is going to be a bad year for airlines and you can bet many airlines will fail before the year is done.

Have you been through an airport lately?

Beat the Q4 analyst expectations. Whatever they were.

Profit margin of 3.3%.

Rough quarter for AC.

Air Italy's COO was a former WJ employee who many will recognize by name.

Sure appears to be predatory. When Jetsgo flew does anyone remember what ancillary fees looked like? I'm guessing it was significantly less than what Swoop is earning.

Flair's pulled out of YXX due to Swoop starting in June.

This forum is missing some Bean. And Jetsgo. And an Air Canada bankruptcy. And WestJet. Many arguments were had.

You don't usually hear people blaming WestJet for Swoop's issues. The same people that don't buy travel insurance or don't carry their medication on them are the same people that have no idea WestJet owns Swoop.