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  1. The LH Toronto-Frankfurt flight yesterday took about six hours - rather than the nearly eight it usually takes. There is a big storm over Europe, and lots of flights are being cancelled. I presume it's more than a strong jet stream. Loads of flights within Europe being cancelled today and tomorrow, and the winds are so strong even some German trains were cancelled. Possible other trains as well.
  2. What an a-hole Ontario man arrested, charged with mischief over apparent hoax Derick Deoanrain · Posted: Feb 03, 2020 10:40 PM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago A WestJet flight to Jamaica returned to Toronto on Monday after a passenger claimed to have the coronavirus.(Adrian Wyld/The Canadian Press) Just two hours into a WestJet flight from Toronto to Montego Bay, Jamaica, passengers had their trips unexpectedly cut short on Monday after a passenger claimed he had the coronavirus. At some point during Flight WS 2702 the man stood up, announced that he was recently in China and had contracted the disease, according to Peel Regional Police. "That announcement was shared by the flight crew to the captain and a decision was made for the plane to return back to Pearson [International Airport]," said Const. Bancroft Wright. Passenger Julie-Anne Broderick says she and her family were concerned. "We were just over Florida and all of a sudden we felt the plane do a pretty dramatic turn," Broderick told CBC News. "We were flying in the opposite direction all of a sudden and it said our final destination was back in Toronto. So we were very confused and worried." She says she saw the man taking a selfie and telling passengers around him that he had the coronavirus. "The flight attendants came, gave him a mask and gloves and just told him that he had to move to the back of the plane" she said. WestJet said in a statement the crew followed all protocols for infectious disease on board, including sequestering the man. The captain informed passengers that, because of the incident, they couldn't land in Jamaica or the U.S. and had to return to Toronto. The captain said he believed it was a hoax, according to Broderick. "I guess this guy thought it was a funny joke but it's just really weird. We were all very frustrated, to just place 240 people...it's just so selfish. We've lost a day of our vacation," says Broderick. The plane landed around 2:10 p.m. ET and the man, a 29-year-old from nearby Thornhill, was arrested and charged with mischief. He is scheduled to appear in court on March 9. WestJet apologized to the 243 passengers. Two flights were cancelled due to the incident. WestJet said it would add an extra flight on Tuesday, both to and from Montego Bay, for those affected. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/coronavirus-plane-1.5450824
  3. I'm not belittling the situation in China - viruses mutate. And if to the extent this can be contained, fine. But let's not overlook a bigger killer in our midst. This was the state of the seasonal flu outbreak, in the US, as of Dec 27, 2019
  4. It's likely that the number of infected is much higher - perhaps as many as 150,000 (mostly in China). But of those, maybe only 10% have been reported because 90% of the cases as quite mild. If so, the actual mortality rate is about 0.2 percent of all people, or about the same as the annual flu outbreak, and not even as serious as the global swine flu pandemic of 2009. SARS and MER also had less spread, but far greater mortality rates. One problem with the reporting of the number of people infected is that there is only a figure for the subset who have died, not for the subset who have recovered, been discharged from hospital, etc. Of the four confirmed cases in Canada, one has been discharged already, and for all we know - because it hasn't been reported - none of the four are still hospitalized. The virus could mutate - these virus outbreaks can get much worse or diminish very quickly. But right now, the best thing we can do, while taking the precautions we have taken as a society, is not to flip out like this is 1918-20 all over again. (The Spanish flu also had a low mortality rate, it's just that so many people were infected worldwide that the death toll looks large in hindsight. Today, we have far better knowledge of these viruses, how to respond to it, even how to treat serious cases, than we did in 1918.)
  5. Writing down an asset doesn't require any cash. Also, If you remember, the federal government's latest support of Bombardier was in the form of loans that went into the development of the new business jets, which are selling really well.
  6. The cruise ship thing is no more - the passenger tested negative, so forget that. The mortality rate of the virus in China appears to be dropping to the level of the flu. Under 2% now. I think this is being contained - of course, a mutation can spur it to new heights.
  7. It's an interesting challenge to quarantine people in Canada in. You can't just put everybody in an armoury or arena; you need separate quarters in case there is one person who could infect the group. In summer, you could commandeer a university dorm. You're not likely to find an empty hotel, etc. I suppose self-quarantining is an option - that's what every country is doing with one-off cases.
  8. Air Canada Suspends Flights to Beijing, Shanghai MONTREAL, Jan. 29, 2020 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada said today that following the Government of Canada's Advisory to avoid non-essential travel to mainland China it is temporarily suspending all direct flights to Beijing and Shanghaieffective January 30, 2020 until February 29, 2020. Air Canada's last flights departing Canada will operate today and the return flights will operate from Beijing and Shanghai tomorrow, January 30, 2020. Affected customers will be notified and offered options, including travel on other carriers where available, or a full refund. Air Canada regrets this situation and apologizes for the serious disruption to our customers' travel plans. Air Canada will continue to monitor this evolving situation closely in consultation with the Public Health Agency of Canada, Transport Canada and Global Affairs and will adjust its schedule as appropriate. Air Canada currently operates direct flights to Beijing and Shanghai from Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver.
  9. Meanwhile, a reminder that panic is likely to kill more North Americans than this virus, and the flu will kill thousands - maybe tens of thousands - this winter and no one will notice except the victims friends and family and the media will care not one whit. Seriously. This was from early January
  10. I'm putting this as a separate topic because the New York Times provides significant detail about this crash and how Boeing made sure its implications were minimized and contained. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/20/business/boeing-737-accidents.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage How Boeing’s Responsibility in a Deadly Crash ‘Got Buried’ By Chris Hamby Jan. 20, 2020, 6:00 a.m. ET Lessons from the 2009 accident would have newfound relevance in tragedies years later.Ade Johnson/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images After a Boeing 737 crashed near Amsterdam more than a decade ago, the Dutch investigators focused blame on the pilots for failing to react properly when an automated system malfunctioned and caused the plane to plummet into a field, killing nine people. The fault was hardly the crew’s alone, however. Decisions by Boeing, including risky design choices and faulty safety assessments, also contributed to the accident on the Turkish Airlines flight. But the Dutch Safety Board either excluded or played down criticisms of the manufacturer in its final report after pushback from a team of Americans that included Boeing and federal safety officials, documents and interviews show. The crash, in February 2009, involved a predecessor to Boeing’s 737 Max, the plane that was grounded last year after accidents in Indonesia and Ethiopia killed 346 people and hurled the company into the worst crisis in its history. A review by The New York Times of evidence from the 2009 accident, some of it previously confidential, reveals striking parallels with the recent crashes — and resistance by the team of Americans to a full airing of findings that later proved relevant to the Max. In the 2009 and Max accidents, for example, the failure of a single sensor caused systems to misfire, with catastrophic results, and Boeing had not provided pilots with information that could have helped them react to the malfunction. The earlier accident “represents such a sentinel event that was never taken seriously,” said Sidney Dekker, an aviation safety expert who was commissioned by the Dutch Safety Board to analyze the crash. Dr. Dekker’s study accused Boeing of trying to deflect attention from its own “design shortcomings” and other mistakes with “hardly credible” statements that admonished pilots to be more vigilant, according to a copy reviewed by The Times. The study was never made public. The Dutch board backed away from plans to publish it, according to Dr. Dekker and another person with knowledge of its handling. A spokeswoman for the Dutch board said it was not common to publish expert studies and the decision on Dr. Dekker’s was made solely by the board. At the same time, the Dutch board deleted or amended findings in its own accident report about issues with the plane when the same American team weighed in. The board also inserted statements, some nearly verbatim and without attribution, written by the Americans, who said that certain pilot errors had not been “properly emphasized.” The muted criticism of Boeing after the 2009 accident fits within a broader pattern, brought to light since the Max tragedies, of the company benefiting from a light-touch approach by safety officials. References to Dr. Dekker’s findings in the final report were brief, not clearly written and not sufficiently highlighted, according to multiple aviation safety experts with experience in crash investigations who read both documents. One of them, David Woods, a professor at the Ohio State University who has served as a technical adviser to the Federal Aviation Administration, said the Turkish Airlines crash “should have woken everybody up.” Some of the parallels between that accident and the more recent ones are particularly noteworthy. Boeing’s design decisions on both the Max and the plane involved in the 2009 crash — the 737 NG, or Next Generation — allowed a powerful computer command to be triggered by a single faulty sensor, even though each plane was equipped with two sensors, as Bloomberg reported last year. In the two Max accidents, a sensor measuring the plane’s angle to the wind prompted a flight control computer to push its nose down after takeoff; on the Turkish Airlines flight, an altitude sensor caused a different computer to cut the plane’s speed just before landing. Boeing had determined before 2009 that if the sensor malfunctioned, the crew would quickly recognize the problem and prevent the plane from stalling — much the same assumption about pilot behavior made with the Max. And as with the more recent crashes, Boeing had not included information in the NG operations manual that could have helped the pilots respond when the sensor failed. Even a fix now proposed for the Max has similarities with the past: After the crash near Amsterdam, the F.A.A. required airlines to install a software update for the NG that compared data from the plane’s two sensors, rather than relying on just one. The software change Boeing has developed for the Max also compares data from two sensors. Critically, in the case of the NG, Boeing had already developed the software fix well before the Turkish Airlines crash, including it on new planes starting in 2006 and offering it as an optional update on hundreds of other aircraft. But for some older jets, including the one that crashed near Amsterdam, the update wouldn’t work, and Boeing did not develop a compatible version until after the accident. The Dutch investigators deemed it “remarkable” that Boeing left airlines without an option to obtain the safeguard for some older planes. But in reviewing the draft accident report, the Americans objected to the statement, according to the final version’s appendix, writing that a software modification had been unnecessary because “no unacceptable risk had been identified.” GE Aviation, which had bought the company that made the computers for the older jets, also suggested deleting or changing the sentence. The Dutch board removed the statement, but did criticize Boeing for not doing more to alert pilots about the sensor problem. Dr. Woods, who was Dr. Dekker’s Ph.D. adviser, said the decision to exclude or underplay the study’s principal findings enabled Boeing and its American regulators to carry out “the narrowest possible changes.” The problem with the single sensor, he said, should have dissuaded Boeing from using a similar design in the Max. Instead, “the issue got buried.” Boeing declined to address detailed questions from The Times. In a statement, the company pointed to differences between the 2009 accident and the Max crashes. “These accidents involved fundamentally different system inputs and phases of flight,” the company said. Asked about its involvement with the Dutch accident report, Boeing said it was “typical and critical to successful investigations for Boeing and other manufacturers to work collaboratively with the investigating authorities.” Joe Sedor, the N.T.S.B. official who led the American team working on the Turkish Airlines investigation, said it was not unusual for investigating bodies to make changes to a report after receiving feedback, or for American safety officials to jointly submit their comments with Boeing. Mr. Sedor is now overseeing the N.T.S.B.’s work on the Max crashes. He acknowledged that reliance on a single sensor was a contributing factor in both cases but cautioned against focusing on it. “Each of these accidents were complex and dynamic events with many contributing factors,” he said. “Boiling them down simply to the number of inputs ignores the many, many more issues that differentiate them.” The F.A.A., in a statement, also emphasized the “unique set of circumstances” surrounding each accident. “Drawing broad connections between accidents involving different types of emergencies oversimplifies what is, by definition, a complex science,” it said. The agency, also part of the American team in the Dutch investigation, declined to say whether the lessons from the Turkish Airlines crash factored into its decision to certify the Max — which was approved to fly in 2017 and became the fastest-selling plane in Boeing’s history. But a senior F.A.A. official, who was not authorized to speak publicly, praised Dr. Dekker’s study and said it identified important issues that had not received enough public attention. The official pointed to the similarities — such as the reliance on a single sensor — between the Turkish Airlines crash and the Max accidents. A spokeswoman for the Dutch board, Sara Vernooij, said it was common practice to amend draft reports in response to outside comments, but she declined to address the specific changes. Other companies and government bodies involved in the investigation, such as the French firm that made the sensors and that country’s aviation safety board, also submitted comments, but the American submission was the most extensive. Ms. Vernooij said the Dutch agency regarded the Dekker study as confidential. “The parts considered relevant by the board were used while writing the final report,” she said. Focus on the Pilots On the morning of Feb. 25, 2009, Turkish Airlines Flight 1951 approached Amsterdam, carrying 128 passengers from Istanbul. The first officer guided the plane toward Runway 18R, calling out changes to its speed and direction. He was new to the Boeing jet, so the crew included a third pilot in addition to the captain, who was a former Turkish Air Force officer with about 13 years of experience flying the aircraft. Because of instructions from air traffic control, the crew had to execute a maneuver that could be challenging: slowing while descending more rapidly than normal. They engaged a computer that controlled engine thrust, known as an autothrottle, to help regulate the drop in speed. As the plane dipped to 1,000 feet, the pilots had not yet completed their landing checklist. Strict adherence to airline procedure would have meant circling around for another try, but violations were commonplace at the busy runway, investigators later determined. About a minute later, with the plane at about 450 feet, the pilots’ control sticks began shaking, warning of an impending stall. The jet had slowed too much. Immediately, one of the pilots pushed the thrust lever forward to gain speed, but when he let go, the computer commanded it to idle. The captain intervened, disabling the autothrottle and setting the thrust levers to their maximum. Nine seconds had elapsed since the stall warning. By then, it was too late. The jet plunged into a field less than a mile from the airport. The three pilots, another crew member and five passengers were killed. Dutch investigators determined that the cause of the malfunction was a sensor on the plane’s exterior measuring altitude. The sensor had mistakenly indicated that the plane was just moments from touchdown, prompting the computer to idle the engines. For 70 seconds, the autothrottle had done what the crew intended: steadily cut the plane’s speed. But the pilots failed to notice that the computer did not then maintain the target speed when it was reached; instead, it continued to slow the plane down. The pilots realized what had happened only when the control stick began vibrating. Losing track of airspeed is considered a grave error. The pilots, who investigators believe were preoccupied with the landing checklist, also missed multiple warnings that the autothrottle was acting up. The Dutch board’s conclusions focused on the decision not to abort the landing, the failure to recognize the dangerous drop in speed and the incorrect response to the shaking control stick, possibly because of inadequate training. At the request of the American team led by the N.T.S.B., the Dutch added comments that further emphasized the pilots’ culpability. The final report, for example, included a new statement that scolded the captain, saying he could have used the situation to teach the first officer a “lesson” on following protocol. In their comments, reflected largely in an appendix, the Americans addressed criticism of Boeing in the draft report. A description of the company’s procedures for monitoring and correcting potential safety problems was “technically incorrect, incomplete and overly” simplistic, they wrote. In response, the board inserted a description of Boeing’s safety program written by the Americans and a statement that Boeing’s approach was more rigorous than F.A.A. requirements. The draft had also referred to studies that found it was common for complex automation to confuse pilots and suggested design and training improvements. The studies, the draft said, included research by “Boeing itself.” The Americans objected, saying the statements “misrepresent and oversimplify the research results.” In its final report, the board deleted the Boeing reference. When the Dutch board announced its conclusions during a news conference, its chairman said, “The pilots could have prevented this.” Missing Information The Dutch Safety Board had also commissioned Dr. Dekker’s analysis of the accident, which applied an engineering discipline known as human factors. As planes have come to rely on complex computer systems, researchers and investigators have identified design and training practices that can make pilot error less likely. Dr. Dekker, then a professor in Sweden who had investigated other serious crashes and had worked part time flying a 737, acknowledged fatal mistakes by the Turkish Airlines pilots in his 129-page study. But he also found that Boeing bore significant responsibility. While his study was never made public, copies circulated among some researchers and pilots. And his role in the investigation was cited in an appendix to the board’s report. He is now a professor in Australia and the Netherlands. In the study, Dr. Dekker chastised Boeing for designing the autothrottle to rely on just one of two sensors measuring altitude. That decision, he wrote, left “a single-failure pathway in place,” raising the risk that a single error could lead to catastrophe. Five years before the Turkish Airlines crash, Boeing was aware that a sensor malfunction could idle the engines improperly, but the company decided it wasn’t a safety concern, the Dutch investigators wrote. After receiving reports about autothrottle misfires that did not lead to accidents, a Boeing review board determined that if a malfunction occurred, pilots would recognize it and intervene. In the meantime, Boeing developed a software update that allowed the autothrottle to compare the readings from the two altitude sensors. If they differed by more than 20 feet, the autothrottle wouldn’t be able to improperly idle the engines. The safeguard was available in 2006, but the change wouldn’t work on some 737 NG models, like the Turkish Airlines plane, that used an autothrottle computer made by a different company. After the 2009 crash, Boeing developed a version of the update compatible with those computers, and the F.A.A. required airlines to install it. The Dekker study found that another decision by Boeing — to leave important information out of the operations manual — had also hampered the Turkish Airlines pilots. The 737 NG has two parallel sets of computers and sensors, one on the left side of the plane and one on the right. Most of the time, only one set is in control. On the Turkish Airlines flight, the system on the right was in control. The pilots recognized the inaccurate altitude readings and noted that they were coming from the sensor on the left. This would have led them to conclude that the bad data coming from the left didn’t matter because the autothrottle was getting the correct data from the right, Dr. Dekker found. What the pilots couldn’t have known was that the computer controlling the engine thrust always relied on the left sensor, even when the controls on the right were flying the plane. That critical information was nowhere to be found in the Boeing pilots’ manual, Dr. Dekker learned. Erik van der Lely, a 737 NG pilot and instructor for a European airline who studied under Dr. Dekker, told The Times that he had not known about this design peculiarity until he read a copy of the study. “I’m pretty sure none or almost none of the 737 pilots knew that,” he said. When the draft report criticized Boeing for not giving pilots information that might have helped prevent the accident, the Americans disagreed, citing general directions from the training manual and writing, “Boeing did provide appropriate guidance to flight crews.” The plane was “easily recoverable” if the pilots had followed the proper procedures, they said. In its final report, the board retained its general conclusion but softened some language. Boeing later made a similar assessment on the 737 Max. The company did not inform pilots of a new automated system that contributed to both deadly crashes, hindering their ability to counteract its erroneous commands, investigators have determined. Over all, the final report by the Dutch Safety Board did mention some of Dr. Dekker’s conclusions, but the aviation safety experts who read his study said the systemic issues he raised received too little emphasis. For example, while the report noted the design quirk not included in the manual, it did so only briefly amid other technical documentation, and the significance of it was unclear. Dr. Dekker estimated that the board included the equivalent of about one page of information from his study in its report, which was 90 pages in addition to appendices. ‘Failure of Responsibility’ Today, faced with a public outcry over the Max crashes and demands for reforms, Boeing and the F.A.A. have agreed that more attention should be paid to the engineering discipline Dr. Dekker applied in his study. Both the N.T.S.B. and a panel of international experts found that Boeing and the F.A.A. had not sufficiently incorporated lessons from this human-factors research when developing and certifying the Max. But even though the research has been around for decades — an F.A.A. studyrecommended in 1996 that the industry and regulators embrace the approach more readily — accident investigations have tended to focus on pilot errors while minimizing or ignoring systemic factors, such as design and training problems, experts said. “It’s really easy to blame it on the dead pilots and say it has nothing to do with our improperly designed system,” said Shawn Pruchnicki, who teaches at Ohio State and has worked on accident investigations for the Air Line Pilots Association. Dr. Pruchnicki, who studied under Dr. Dekker, said he had participated in numerous investigations in which human-factors experts were largely ignored. “It just gets frustrating because we keep having the same types of accidents,” he said. Dr. Woods, the Ohio State professor who has advised the F.A.A., wrote an email to colleagues shortly after the first 737 Max crash, in October 2018, of Lion Air Flight 610, which killed 189 people just minutes after taking off from Jakarta, Indonesia. The initial details, he wrote, indicated it was an automation-triggered disaster of the sort that he and others had studied for almost 30 years. He cited research from the 1990s and pointed to the Turkish Airlines crash. “That this situation has continued on for so long without major action is not how engineering is supposed to work,” he wrote. After the second Max crash — in March 2019, of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, killing all 157 people on board shortly after takeoff from Addis Ababa — Dr. Woods said in an interview, “I was appalled.” “This is such of a failure of responsibility,” he said. “We’re not supposed to let this happen.”
  11. https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/unifor-reaches-tentative-deal-with-air-canada-836899215.html TORONTO, Jan. 15, 2020 /CNW/ - Unifor Local 2002, the union representing customer service agents in call centres and airports, customer journey management and customer relations representatives have reached a tentative agreement with Air Canada. "Congratulations to the bargaining committee, who have worked tirelessly for more than a year to reach a fair deal for our hard-working members at Air Canada," said Jerry Dias, Unifor National President. "Air Canada has seen its stock price increase by 950% since 2010 and our bargaining team ensured our members will share in that success." The tentative agreement will be presented to members for ratification votes over the course of the next week. If ratified, the new five-year agreement will expire on February 28, 2026. "I would like to thank the Bargaining Committee and the entire membership who stood together and showed solidarity throughout this process," said Euila Leonard, President Local 2002. "Our members have worked and lived through the lean times in the airline industry and I am proud that the gains in this agreement recognize the contributions and hard work of Air Canada members." Unifor Local 2002 represents 5,600 members who work at Air Canada call centres and airports, customer journey management and customer relations representatives, as well as 400 members who work at Aeroplan in British Columbia and Quebec and 300 members who work as Air Canada crew schedulers.
  12. Air Canada's first A220-300 has its official unveiling in Toronto https://twitter.com/HowardSlutsken/status/1217455047942057989
  13. Interesting rumours by FleigerFaust that Airbus is advancing work on A220 stretches - lots of guesswork on his part, but not surprising if any of it is true. A CS500 may not be too far off, and I bet AC would be interested in telling Boeing to FU about some of those 737-9s not yet built. An A220-500 might not be big enough to bump a Max-9, but an A220-700? https://www.fliegerfaust.com Thinly based speculation at present.
  14. I doubt we'll ever know how many layers exist between the missile crew and the general at the very top of the Revolutionary Guard. Part of the generalized assumption that this must have been an error is that the regime as a whole had nothing to gain and everything to lose by shooting down the plane. They had actually stalemated Trump by using ballistic missiles fired from Iran proper - a first involving the US presence in Iraq - and it's clear that Trump, despite his bellicosity, is not eager to get into a bigger conflict. Now, the regime which had some modest success rallying some elements of the general population over Soleiman's death is being widely denounced - even criticized by some of its usual conservative backers - for lying about the incident. There only reason in my opinion why the regime would have approved of downing the plane would have been if there was someone or something on board so dangerous to the survival of the regime or defence of the country that it would be worth the cost. Presumably, the US or others would have let it be known by now if there was such a person on board the plane since the identities of everyone are pretty much known. And they could have detained that person at passport control, or refused to allow the plane to leave, etc. So it's almost inconceivable that the plane's destruction came on orders of the top layers of regime command. As you move down the food chain to the person or persons responsible for letting the missiles fly, you get into the realms of training, sanity, mind conditioning (a fanatic who believes God is commanding his actions, etc).
  15. Shouldn't the cabin crew have made sure the iPad was off and stowed. They walk around the cabin checking that tray tables are stowed, seat backs are up, and you are belted in. At that point, you'd think they would tell that woman to stow the electronics as well.
  16. Also, I wonder how much the Ukrainian SOC equivalent in Kiev understood the situation. And what pressure might the crew have felt to go ahead with the flight. UIA isn't the epitome of financial health, and you have to wonder if another airline - say, LH which was flying to Tehran but has suspended ops there - would have reacted had they had a flight going out around then
  17. It was almost certainly a shoot down, but I have a hard time imagining it was sanctioned as part of state policy. The risks are far too great. Most of the dead are Iranians, with family in Iran and increasingly loud dissidents against the regime. (The Iranians don't recognize dual citizenship, so even a lot of the Canadians who died were in the eyes of that country Iranians first and foremost.) I don't see the gain here for Iran to admit or even imply such a public act of savagery that can only reflect badly on it in the eyes of the entire world. They made their statement when they fired cruise missiles at oil tankers in the fall, when they fired missiles at a key Saudi oil production complex, etc. Any fourth rate gang with a 1980s vintage shoulder missile can bring down an aircraft shortly after it has taken off. That's penny ante stuff, and no show of force. The Irani regime wants to split the Europeans from the Americans on the issue of sanctions, but accomplish the opposite with this. The Ayatollah himself could end up in the dock in The Hague. If you recall KE007, IR655, MH17, it's always some schmuck who presses the button presuming he has authority when he doesn't because the central authorities were lax or the process and safeguards woefully inadequate. It's even wild that some AA systems have an auto mode - I don't know if it was engaged on the SA-15. The US never disciplined the Vincennes commander for shooting down IR655. But schmucks they were Now, once that schmuck shoots down the plane, it's too embarrassing for the central authority to admit that the system was at fault for allowing this to happen. So Iran will cover up. Nor will it want the world to even know how its system and processes operate. If forced by leaks and other info to admit that this was a shoot down, it will likely find that schmuck who pressed the button, claim he did it on his own authority, and put him up against a wall in front of a firing squad, then pay compensation (as the Americans did for IR655 - several years after the fact). Compensation in this case ought to run somewhere between $500m and $1b.
  18. The missile theory is gaining credence among "intelligence sources" quoted by media like Newsweek. Sources have likely missile type identified, believe AA system was left on after the launch of ballistic missiles against the US. No intent to bring down the plane, but a huge, tragic mistake that will set the Iranian regime on its heels. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1215317761632690179
  19. Based on the prime minister's comments just now, many more people destined for Canada died on that flight – not just 68 Canadian passport holders. As many as 138 were heading for Canada via the Kyiv-Toronto flight, which arrived at YYZ with a lot of empty seats.
  20. Furthermore, most of the people on that flight would have been in Iran for weeks over the holiday break. The US-Iran conflict spiked over the past several days.
  21. Yes, but I wonder if/when all the the adjustments Boeing is making to software, hardware, even procedures to follow in event of an incident are loaded into the sims whether training will have to start anew. Still, MCAS aside, I imagine those AC pilots will have great familiarity with all known and imaginable events they'd run into.
  22. There are a lot of Iranian Canadians and Iranian students studying in Canada. One of the dead was an engineer at Pratt & Whitney in Longueuil who was visiting family over the Christmas-New Year break. Several were PhD students or profs. There was a wedding party, bride, groom and some of the wedding guests; they had been in Iran for the wedding. So sad, as these tragedies always are.
  23. The video I saw cut in after the engine or fuselage was a fireball in the night sky - not surprised that someone with a cellphone camera would have recorded that. Now, my question - what were the weather conditions, specifically temperature at takeoff. The low tonight in Tehran is 0 centigrade, and a 6:30 am takeoff following a one hour delay might have put it at precisely the coldest time of night. With dew on the wing possible, wouldn't/shouldn't the plane have had to be de-iced?
  24. I'll be interested to see how Air Canada settles with Boeing, and how much it gets. Will it negotiate, or sue? To date, several airlines have agreed to secret settlement packages, with only dribs or drabs of those deals coming out, such as the AA profit share amount. I'm no lawyer, but Calin is. While Westjet is an all Boeing operator, AC is not, and I'd bet Calin is going to hold that over Boeing like a chain saw. Certain operators carry more weight in this than most because of their size and ability to swing between the two aircraft companies. Non-American airlines will have more leverage than US carriers. If I were Calin, I'd probably present Boeing with enormous demands, and challenge it to meet them or face AC in court.
  25. If the DC-10 could survive some horrific accidents, and fly safely for many years thereafter, I believe the MAX can and will. With the DC-10, we had actual images of the Chicago crash that seared the mind of the US travelling public, and vivid survivor accounts of United's famous Flight 232. If I had confidence in the safety of the airline, I'd have confidence in the safety of the plane itself. Clearly, Boeing and the airlines will have to do a good, extended selling job, and some folks will never fly a MAX, although there are going to be instances where they have no choice - fly or stay at home. This plane is likely to come through this extended review process safer than any other plane type in commercial service today. In fact, you'll be far safer in a MAX or any other commercial aircraft than you are as a pedestrian in one of our major cities.