Kip Powick Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 This car made the news tonight...built in Canada, the ZEN car is smaller than the Min Cooper but bigger than the Smart Car. Goes max of 41km/hr. Can go 60km on a 4 hour , ordinary plug in...BUT.. ....not allowed to be sold in Canada...the cars are made in Canada, all are being sent to the US and all are rapidly snapped up...a great little urban car but TC says "no" .......goes too slow for us Canadians and our roads. This is an old link but shows the car.. Zen Car Be neat to have in "Dotland" so the Admiral can shopping in "Smallville"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 A max speed of 41km per hour? Might as well call it a golf cart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specs Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 A max speed of 41km per hour? Max spd With a tailwind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 A max speed of 41km per hour? Might as well call it a golf cart. The TV story did rate it as a "super" golf cart but I still think it has possibilities in small towns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Probably really popular for the rich paranoid crowd in their gated communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakelad Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Can go 60km on a 4 hour , ordinary plug in... Wonder what a full lighting/heating load would do the 60km range in winter. CTV Story . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pivot Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 So why can't they just build it so it will go faster? I love to drive my Hybrid around on electric only but I can't do it without having the guy behind me getting upset that I'm doing the speed limit. I would say 60kph would be a good maximum for most city driving. If you are interested in electric cars I would recommend this movie: http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/ I don't think pure electrics will ever be practical in Canada for winter driving. We will always need the heat that the internal combustion engine puts out. I really like the Volvo C30 plug-in hybrid concept. I'm sure they will heat the cabin with the spare heat the diesel "APU" puts out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dork Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Fuel is 25 cents a gallon in Bagdad........LOL nice car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 So why can't they just build it so it will go faster? I love to drive my Hybrid around on electric only but I can't do it without having the guy behind me getting upset that I'm doing the speed limit. I would say 60kph would be a good maximum for most city driving. If you are interested in electric cars I would recommend this movie: http://www.whokilledtheelectriccar.com/ I don't think pure electrics will ever be practical in Canada for winter driving. We will always need the heat that the internal combustion engine puts out. I really like the Volvo C30 plug-in hybrid concept. I'm sure they will heat the cabin with the spare heat the diesel "APU" puts out. A light bulb gives off heat. My television set gives off heat. You don't think there would be some recoverable heat from an electric motor? Not much of a passenger cabin to have to heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pivot Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Heat from the electric motor? Sure, but only when it's under load. Not much good when your stuck in stop and go traffic. Light bulbs that give off heat? I didn't know they still made those kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Goes max of 41km/hr. This would be perfect for me working the ramp in YYZ. Then maybe I wouldn't get in so much trouble with those pesky Airside Safety Officers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustainable Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 What makes feel good cars interesting is not the Zenn, it is what the Zenn is going to evolve into when this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EEstor is applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 More on that EEStor. It has some really heavy hitters behind it. http://www.technologyreview.com/Biztech/18086/page1/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Now coming to a car dealer near you. (At least in the same country.) Transport Canada approves 100% electric car Last Updated: Friday, November 2, 2007 | 10:29 PM ET CBC News Transport Canada confirmed Friday it has authorized a Toronto-based electric carmaker to produce a vehicle for the Canadian market. The ZENN (zero emissions, no noise) electric car has received the National Safety Mark, a legal label that indicates the vehicle meets Canada Motor Vehicle Safety Standards. The ZENN electric car seats two people and is roughly the size of a Mini-Cooper. (Courtesy ZENN Motor Company) Toronto-based ZENN Motor Company makes the 100 per cent electric car, which is built in St. Jerome, Que. Roughly the same size as the Mini-Cooper, it would sell for approximately $14,000. It's sold in most American states, Mexico and Europe. Company founder Ian Clifford had accused the federal government of blocking him from selling the cars in Canada, saying officials from Transport Canada gave him different responses every time he approached them. The car is considered a low-speed urban vehicle with a regulated maximum speed of 40 km/h. It's designed for areas where speed limits are 50 km/h or less, such as city core or neighbourhood-type driving, said Clifford. Transport Canada says it will be up to the individual provinces and territories to legislate where the vehicle can be driven. Currently, British Columbia is the only Canadian province to legislate this type of vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT3DUAL Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Little political pressure applied via a little exposure on the CBC National News, to get some politicals hacks to see the light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Car will be of little use in most large cities except to piss of others in traffic (If operated in zones where the speed limit is 50km (traffic flow quite often at more than that). Great for retirement areas and small towns though. I wonder how it handles -30 and snow? The car is considered a low-speed urban vehicle with a regulated maximum speed of 40 km/h. It's designed for areas where speed limits are 50 km/h or less, such as city core or neighbourhood-type driving, said Clifford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Hudson Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 So, where does the power come from? I mean how is the car charged? What I'm really asking of course is, where did the displaced carbon footprint go? Coal-generation? Nuclear? Hydro?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 From the article: EV's don't release emissions, but some critics argue the pollution is merely shifted to burning coal and other fossil fuels that generate electricity for charging its batteries. A recent study out of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, however, concluded that charging a hybrid-electric (or electric) vehicle with coal power releases fewer greenhouse gas emissions than a vehicle running on gasoline. Here is the goto to an look into Battery operated vehicles. Pros & Cons. http://www.oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/...ric.cfm?attr=16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Great for retirement areas and small towns though. I wonder how it handles -30 and snow? ...or a collision with an SUV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 ...or a collision with an SUV? Collision? Puh. ....I don't remember this road being quite so bumpy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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