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Here is the CTV site which has Florida with essentially the same rate of infection as BC with only Hawaii and Louisiana better in the states. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-in-the-u-s-how-do-canada-s-provinces-rank-against-american-states-1.5051033 Nearly all restrictions were removed in Louisiana last May. https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/coronavirus/article_a5f18fac-bd95-11eb-8f0f-1392ff2be87e.html Louisiana has 46.8% of its population fully vaccinated and Florida 58.9% and with very few restrictions being imposed and have significantly fewer cases than states where there are much more in the way of restrictions. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state BC has 74.4% fully vaccinated and Canada is at 72.8% with numerous restrictions. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccination-tracker-how-many-people-in-canada-have-received-shots-1.5247509 It does beg the question that has this shut down of our society with all the economic and social hardship it has caused been worth it. I'd suggest that the appropriate response would have been to encourage people to get the vaccines and keep the economy going. I weighed the pros and cons of getting the vaccine and I concluded with reservations that I was better off to get them. However, our governments concluded that it would discount the wisdom of its citizens to make the best choice for themselves, and then proceeded to bring in policies that forced people to have themselves injected with something that many just didn't want in their bodies, and in many cases forfeit their jobs and a myriad of other freedoms if they didn't comply.

MD87 Down near Houston Just wondering how it can be down when it was never up.

It seems to me that they might want to be careful using a cartoon like that. With those 59 Cadillacs in the background it looks like that is simply the view of rich old guys.

Apparently aspirin works effectively in reducing COVID effects. This makes sense as there was a report out that said that blood thinners were effective. https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/aspirin-lowers-risk-of-covid-new-findings-support-preliminary-israeli-trial-681127 Here is a report from the NIH on blood thinners and COVID. https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/full-dose-blood-thinners-reduce-need-organ-support-moderately-ill-covid-19-patients-not-critically-ill-patients#:~:text=A large clinical trial

In over a year and a half of Covid in Canada we have had 28,226 deaths. https://www.ctvnews.ca/ In the average year in Canada 39,000 die as a cause of smoking. (58,500 deaths over the same time frame as the Covid number.) https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-concerns/tobacco/legislation/tobacco-product-labelling/smoking-mortality.html In other words there are more than twice as many deaths caused by smoking than from Covid. Many of those deaths are caused by 2nd hand smoke. Other people smoking can affect my health. If we can see people losing jobs and freedom to force them to get two shots of vaccine why are cigarettes still available for sale, with the government taking in tax dollars on their sale. Also, we can ask the question of how many Covid deaths by people who already had health issues as a result of smoking.

You do know this is Australia and not BC don't you.

OK, but that was only a small part of it and the churches don't have any part in the filing of the law suit.

I'm not an anti-vaxxer. I have had 2 Pfizer shots. However more and more I am starting to question the whole thing. Here is a chart from CTV that shows the percentage of people in each individual province or territory that have been vaccinated. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccination-tracker-how-many-people-in-canada-have-received-shots-1.5247509 We can see by this chart that the NWT has the second highest, (below the Yukon) rate of vaccination in the country We can also see that Nunavit has the 2nd lowest, (only Saskatchewan is lower) rate of vaccination in the country. Now here is the CTV chart that shows the rate of infection in each province or territory in the country as well as every state in the US based on cases per million population over 7 days, https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-in-the-u-s-how-do-canada-s-provinces-rank-against-american-states-1.5051033 We see on this chart that the NWT of by far the highest lever in the country and worse than every state except Alaska at 957.6 cases. This is far more than states that have been wide open for months such as Texas. Then when we look at Nunavit and it is lower that everyone at ZERO cases in spite of the fact that in Canada it has the 2nd lowest rate of vaccination. As I asked in the heading, how do we explain this other than to conclude the vaccines aren't working?

This wasn't about the churches but about the restrictions put on doctors and other healthcare workers, and the lack of support from the "College of Physicians and Surgeons Council".

I found this on the internet concerning a group of doctors and others suing the "College of Physicians and Surgeons. Ther is quite a bit of detail concerning the suit a and the effect and ineffectiveness of the vaccines. I'm not informed enough to either endorse it or reject it. I'd be interested in hearing comments. https://www.jccf.ca/unethical-conduct-of-the-college-of-physicians-and-surgeons-council/

Again that isn't my point. The media and many internet suppliers focus on one side of the issue and not only silence other views but either don't print or minimise actual news. Interestingly enough when you look at this CTV site the NWT has by far the highest rate of infections in the country as seen is this chart. They are 2 1/3 times more that the next highest which is Sask. and higher that any US state except Alaska. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-in-the-u-s-how-do-canada-s-provinces-rank-against-american-states-1.5051033 The NWT have 89.3 % of those eligible fully vaccinated which is only behind the Yukon. As seen on this site. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-vaccination-tracker-how-many-people-in-canada-have-received-shots-1.5247509 It seems that the vaccines aren't the panacea that we were told they were. I'm not saying that we shouldn't be getting both shots but we should be able to hear all sides of the issue. Our media is not reflective of a democratic society. I

That wasn't my point. My point is that we should have a better understanding of those who are very concerned about taking the vaccine, and that their point of view is discriminated against in the media.

The story on Moderna in Sweden and Denmark is now on the CTV site although well down the page. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/sweden-suspends-moderna-vaccine-for-those-30-and-under-1.5613031

Our regular news sources are very quick to publish stories of unvaccinated people getting Covid and dying but not so fast at publishing stories such as this that show negative effects of the vaccines. I'm not against getting the vaccines. I have had both shots but it is the way that the media reports which is causing even greater divisions in the country. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/sweden-pauses-use-moderna-covid-vaccine-cites-rare-side-effects-2021-10-06/ STOCKHOLM, Oct 6 (Reuters) - Sweden and Denmark said on Wednesday they will pause the use of Moderna's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger age groups after reports of possible rare side effects, such as myocarditis. The Swedish health agency said it would pause using the shot for people born in 1991 and later as data pointed to an increase of myocarditis and pericarditis among youths and young adults that had been vaccinated. Those conditions involve an inflammation of the heart or its lining. "The connection is especially clear when it comes to Moderna's vaccine Spikevax, especially after the second dose," the health agency said in a statement, adding the risk of being affected was very small. Denmark said that, while it was already using the Pfizer/Biontech vaccine as the main option for people aged 12-17 years, it had decided to pause giving the Moderna vaccine to people below 18 according to a "precautionary principle". "In the preliminary data ... there is a suspicion of an increased risk of heart inflammation, when vaccinated with Moderna," The Danish Health Authority said in a statement. It referred to data from a yet unpublished Nordic study, which would now be sent to the European Medicines Agency (EMA) for further assessment. Final data was expected within a month, it added. Sweden and Denmark said they now recommended the Comirnaty vaccine, from Pfizer/Biontech, instead. Norway already recommends the Cominarty vaccine to minors and said on Wednesday that it was reiterating this, underlining that the rare side effects could happen particularly for boys and young men, and mainly after receiving a second dose.

Here is good news for anyone on blood thinners and it doesn't require FDA or CDC approval. This or maybe the new Merck treatment will mean that Covid can be treated more like a flu. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/blood-thinners-can-reduce-covid-19-deaths-by-nearly-half-study-finds-1.5609242