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[Kip Powick]

28 minutes ago, GDR said:

I have a theory on that crash. I contend that the captain was counting on alpha floor to prevent the stall but got below the 50 ft cut-out altitude for that feature, and as a result, didn't manually apply power until it was too late.

What we were told, while there, was that the Captain pulled many CB to make the aircraft think it was somewhere else.As well, many of the Airbus reps we talked to stated that the "PF was a bit of a PITA and a know- it -all" I believe the Captain got 6 months in prison.I think , he appealed and go 10 months.

I thought I might eventually get on the A-320 so was very interested about the "first" A 320 "tree trimmer." accident.

[GDR]

Hi Kip

I was on it very shortly after we received the first 4 aircraft. It was a lot fun to work with the new tech. Originally we didn't have vertical nav but started getting that not too much later, and then had the it installed on the 4 aircraft.

 

I saw that report but it just seemed so hard to conceive of anyone with his background allowing the aircraft to stall uner those circumstances and so it kinda seems to me that the alpha floor cut-out at 50 feet made sense.

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[Kip Powick]

 

 

[J.O.]

[Moon The Loon]

On 5/25/2023 at 8:45 AM, Kip Powick said:

 

 

[Moon The Loon]

LOL! BTW, why can't plebes like me comment on illustrious moderators' posts??

 

[Seeker]

14 hours ago, Moon The Loon said:

LOL! BTW, why can't plebes like me comment on illustrious moderators' posts??

This is the default setting for the forum software - reactions ("likes" etc) are not enabled for admin or moderator posts.  But, now that you mentioned it, I've gone in a flipped the switch to allow reactions to moderator posts - you should be able to go back and do this if you want to.

The reason for this default setting is to prevent someone from trying to get preferential treatment by "liking" all the moderator's or admin posts and to prevent someone else from claiming such is happening.

Just re-read what you posted.  You should be able to quote and comment on Kip's posts.  Are you not able to do this?  I was thinking that you were talking about the "like" function being unavailable.

[Seeker]

On 5/25/2023 at 8:45 AM, Kip Powick said:

 

This is actually a much deeper issue than most people realize.  The idea of making value judgements for other people and having them try to make them for you.

I used to hear this one all the time;  if you refrain from buying a Starbucks cappucino every day on your coffee break you could save enough money for a vacation.  True, but perhaps the small amount of enjoyment each day is better for you than the vacation once a year - it should be for each person to make these judgements for themselves.

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Peruvian space program is still more successful than the Boeing Starliner!

https://fb.watch/l2MvLHu9nx/

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[JL]

...and plenty of collapsible space for the higher row to crush down into on those firmer landings. 

[st27]

Well…since we are on the topic….

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https://warbirdsnews.com/aviation-museum-news/martin-mars-possibly-moving-british-columbia-aviation-museum.html

Martin Mars Possibly Moving to British Columbia Aviation Museum

 

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Captain's Log, Stardate 43125.8.

In preparation for the decommissioning ceremony for the USS Enterprise NCC-1701D, we have the exceptional honor of being escorted by one of the newly re-engined Federation ships...the B-52X.

First flown April 15th 1952, the B-52 has been in continuous service, undergoing multiple upgrades during its lifetime. The now reengined B-52X is expected to serve up to stardate 53000.0 and beyond if no suitable replacement is available at that time.

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[deicer]

Anyone with spare change they don't know what to do with???  Lots of pictures on page.

https://www.platinumfighters.com/inventory/1938-messerschmitt-bf109e-1/

INTRODUCTION

Platinum Fighter Sales is extremely proud to offer For Sale, the only privately owned Messerschmitt Bf109E that saw service with the Legion Condor during the Spanish Civil War. The only other known survivor is 6*106, currently under the care of the Deutsches Museum, Munich, Germany.

Built during 1938 and seeing service with Legion Condor in ’39, then continuing with the Spanish Air Force until officially retired in 1950 – flying as late as 1958, it is likely that 6*88 is the longest serving Bf109E of all 3,477 Emils built. A true Survivor with Continuing History!

The current Owner/Custodian purchased the derelict Emil in Spain during 1981, thus making him 6*88’s custodian for approximately half of the Emil’s lifespan of 85 years! Unfortunately, 6*88’s current custodian, a British Warbird connoisseur, has not been able to renew his Aviation Medical Certificate and is now reluctantly offering 6*88 For Sale after 42 years of ownership.

This alignment of the planets may well present a ‘Once-in-a-lifetime’ opportunity for an astute buyer/investor to purchase such a unique artifact with extraordinary and unparalleled aviation history. Not only could it become the oldest flying Messerschmitt, 6*88 is a highly desirable and rare Emil!

Qualified Buyers: Please contact the Platinum Fighter Sales Team and request a detailed information package.

HISTORY BY MATTHIAS DORST

The very first two Messerschmitt Bf109 E-1 were delivered to Spain by ship. These brand new fighters were coded 6*87 and 6*88 and served with 1.J/88 side by side with the older D-version. That squadron showed the wooden eye “Holzauge“ as insignia on the fuselage. The so called “Holzauge“ is a typical German saying for “pay attention“. The Holzauge was introduced by Hauptmann (similar to Flight Lieutenant in the RAF or captain in the USAF) Siebelt Reents who was the last Staffelkapitaen (squadron commander) of 1.J/88.

As squadron commander, Hauptmann Reents got of course the brand new Emil 6*88 as his personal aircraft. There are some interesting photographs, showing Hauptmann Reents with his E-1 6*88 awaiting the next sortie over Spain.

In 1939 the newer Bf109E-3 was delivered to Spain. The E-3 version was armed with two 20mm MG FF cannons instead of the MG17 machineguns. The aircraft were painted in pale green upper surfaces (similar to RLM62) with pale blue undersides (RLM65). Bf109´s with codes between 6*87 and 6*131 were allocated to E-series aircraft. As the conflict drew towards its eventual nationalist victory, German aircrews found themselves less involved. By the time the Emil had become common-place, the Republican Air Force had more or less been eliminated. These times gave ample opportunities for flying practice with the new fighter.

The last sortie of Messerschmitts belonging to J/88 came on 27 March when the unit escorted bombers of K/88 for a final mission against forward Republican positions. Twenty (20) of the latest Messerschmitt Bf109E fighters remained in Spain at the time of the ceasefire. They were handed over to Franco to be operated by local pilots as a neutral Spain continued operate these Messerschmitt Bf109E until as late as 1957/8.

It is reported, that the surviving Bf109 coded between 6*87 and 6*131 were handed over to the Spanish Air Force, so also 6*88. The planes were grouped at Leon and then to the 25th Group of Logrono (Pyrenean Fighter Group).

On the 24th August 1939, 6*88 suffered a forced wheels-up landing at Larraga/Navarra in Northern Spain due to running out of fuel. The pilot was Teniente José Vincente Muntadas. This incident is reported in his personal flight book. There is an interesting detail to be seen on the belly-landing pictures. The 6*88 appeared to be converted to an E-3 with the cannon-armed wing. It was quite common to upgrade older E-1 with newer wings to gain more firepower. 6*88 underwent some repair and went back to service and at the end of 1940 when the Squadron moved to Reus (Catalogna/Tarragona) with the 23rd Regiment.

After the end of the war, the Spanish Air Force still used their old Messerschmitt Bf109E besides the modern post war Hispano Aviacon Buchon fighters.

Following the documents, 6*88 suffered another forced landing due running out of fuel. This happened on the 16th of May 1950 nearby Valderobes/ Teurel. Acting pilot was Captain Vinicio Gil de Gomez, test pilot based at Lograno. He escaped with minor injuries.

An official application to withdraw 6*88 from service was made on the 19th of September 1950 and the fighter was officially withdrawn from service in October 1950 and stored at a maintenance facility of the Spanish Air Force at Leon. It’s said that a technical officer did some repair on that withdrawn aircraft and brought the fighter back to airworthy condition. That officer was quite common with the Emil, he had previously flown this type of aircraft and its also said that he flew 6*88 as late as 1957/58.

Following the eyewitness reports, 6*88 was the last airworthy Bf109 in Spain – the first and the last!

On the 3rd of June 1965 “Canario Azaola” (Luis-Ignacio Azaola), who is one of the Spain’s leading historic aviation journalists, was participating in the “Tour of Spain Rally” in a Cessna 172 at the time and was on the leg from Pamplona landing at Leon when he noticed the remains of the Bf109 across the Leon airfield, so he went over to take photos. This photograph appears in the Gallery of images.

The remains were eventually sold at a scrap auction at Leon in 1981 and 6*88 was shipped to Great Britain where it has been under the same ownership for the past 42 years.

RESTORATION BY MEIER MOTORS

Restoration of Bf109E 6*88 is progressing well with Meier Motors of Bremgarten, south-west Germany, for a long-time British Warbird connoisseur. The Meier Motors team commenced the restoration in 2012 and have meticulously completed the rebuild of the airframe. They temporarily installed the Daimler-Benz DB601 engine, which arrived back at Bremgarten after being overhauled by Mike Nixon of Vintage V12s during 2017. More recently, the VDM propeller was overhauled by Skycraft, UK and returned to Meier during 2022. More recent work includes installation of the hydraulic and electrical systems, and the sheet metal workers at Meier have now finished reconstructing the upper and lower engine cowlings, with reference to original plans. After completion and fitting of the cowling, the DB601 has been removed from the airframe for further up-grades and modification.

At the beginning of the restoration, all parts were inspected, categorised and catalogued, new jigs for the fuselage and wings were built in the Meier workshop following original plans and works regulations, allowing the team to dismantle and then rebuild the whole aircraft step by step without destroying its historical substance.

After being completely dismantled, the wings were found to be in very good condition. A surprising amount of original material could be re-used, although all the skins are new. The wings were restored to the configuration in which they were found, in E-3 specification with 20mm cannon. Like the wings, the fuselage was also completely dismantled and found to be in fair condition. A good number of re-usable parts were included in the rebuild which also included new skins.

Researching the authentic color scheme has been another important task. The team at Meier Motors found some small spots with the original paint under the rudder-post fairing, and went to the Deutsches Museum near Munich, where the only other surviving Legion Condor Bf 109E, 6-106, is on show. Paint specialists took small scratches from the original paint — which is to be found under a Luftwaffe scheme in which the machine was painted after presentation to the museum by the Spanish in 1959, and after further research using cutting-edge technology the team has finished 6*88 in a highly authentic period scheme.

Please note: The Messerschmitt Bf109E known simply as 6*88 with the reserved LBA registration of D-FCON is being offered For Sale “As Is Where Is”, Bremgarten, Germany. However, the purchaser will have the option of completing the restoration to airworthy and flying standard with Meier Motors.

Designed and Built by Germans, Flown and Maintained by Germans, Restored and Rebuilt by Germans.

[JL]

I can see Tom Cruise buying that. Would compliment his P51 nicely. He could probably afford the $6M price tag.

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[J.O.]

40 minutes ago, deicer said:

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This reminds me of the London air show in 1989. My company had recently opened a new hangar and we had a large group sitting out front for the show. Three F4 Phantoms from an air national guard unit were doing their thing when one of them approached low and fast from the west and flew directly over us. He wasn’t breaking the sound barrier but he was in full burner and the sound was the loudest I’ve ever heard. A few minutes later someone walked inside to find a number of the ceiling tiles blown out in our passenger lounge. Later we found several exterior siding panels had been blown out on the back wall and two mercury vapour bulbs in the hangar had shattered. The air show paid for the repairs and that guard unit was never invited back. 

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