He can talk the talk...

[Guest]

Quote from my earlier post....

An officer responds to a break and enter. He is told about it by someone claiming to be an eyewitness when he arrives. The officer obviously is going to go inside to find out about it. He meets someone inside and is told that he is talking to the owner of the house. Obviously proof is required so he asks for ID.

At this point a whole slew of accusations are made that he is a racist and other abuse including stuff about his mother and apparently threats about his career.

How does the good professor know that this officer is a racist? Our wonderful Harvard professor who is so upset about racial profiling in America is yelling to the officer about being a racist for one reason only....because he is white. He must have been shocked when he found out what this officer teaches to other cops(how not to racially profile).

Who out there actually believes that this stuff would have been said if our officer had been black.

So, where is the evidence that it actually happened this way?

Is this from the official investigation? What is the source? Who is making this statement? Can anyone corroborate it?

[Guest woxof]

You are right. There is no 100 % proof of what happened because the conversation was not recorded.

For all we know the officer may have said "What is going on Ni###r". But none of this has been said by the good professor. Only the accusation of the officer being a racist after he went in to provide protection of the good professors home, most likely calling him sir when asking for ID.

Based on that assumption and it is an assumption that the officer did his job as required when investigating this break in report(and there have been nothing to indicate otherwise), it is my assumption that the good professor was doing the racial profiling by spewing his racial comments.

Probable statements, perhaps not all in this order.....

"Sir....There has been a report of a break and enter in this house. May I see your identification?"

"Why? Because I am a black man in his home in America? You are a racist"(continues on and on for several minutes).

Who is doing their job and who is the racist? Conclusive proof...not likely to ever happen.

[boestar]

Just like when you lose your key to a hotel room. They ask you to provide ID, then a security guard escorts you to your room, and before he gives you the key, he asks you to describe what's inside. Once he goes in and checks, he comes out and gives you the key and wishes you a good day.

I know, it's happened to me.

Iceman

never EVER been asked for ID to replace a hotel key (card type). they ask what room and make a new card and hand it to you with a happy good night. No security no escort nada. Happens to me alot.

[Lakelad]

"ya, I'll speak to your mama outside"

[Canus Chinookus]

On a related note, Southpark did an awesome episode on the aftermath of election night(I just saw the rerun last night). Great satire. Turns out all politicians involved on both sides were secretly part of a Oceans 11 style group that only wanted access to the White House so they could get underneath the vault holding the Hope Diamond... I'm glad someone got the truth out. BTW, Sarah P was just pretending to be dumb, and really has a sexy british accent! *snicker*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/About_Last_Ni....._(South_Park)

[Guest woxof]

Interesting police report. Of course it could all be a bunch of made up lies, but I haven't heard the good professor denying any of the details of this report.

As I almost 100% accurately said earlier....there was only one person who acted in a racist manner that night and it wasn't the police officer. That was followed on by the usual whiners in the racism industry and their guilty feeling supporters who are quite willing to do the same as what they condemn.

Woxof....no surprise once again.

[Guest rattler]

There is a reality in society today and that is if you are White, not physically impaired and hetero, then you can be held out to be racial, homophobic etc. without any recourse. .....................................

Damn if you are and damn if you don't agree with other points of view!

[chockalicious]

There is a reality in society today and that is if you are White, not physically impaired and hetero, then you can be held out to be racial, homophobic etc. without any recourse. .....................................

Damn if you are and damn if you don't agree with other points of view!

Yes, the poor opressed white male has been denied throughout history and the sufferring continues. The world is so unfair to the opressed white male, being denied opportunity!!!!!

For the love of god will someone please tell me when we will see a day when an opressed white male can be a CEO or a Prime Minister or a President. Maybe one day we will see a white male get a position of influence in a company.

WON'T SOMEONE CONSIDER THE WHITE MALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chockalicious]

Who's the Racist?

Good collumn in the Post. I agree with the author, seems he presented a nuanced, shades of grey assessment.

[Seeker]

The world is so unfair to the opressed white male, being denied opportunity!!!!!

Hey, the world is unfair to white males. It's also unfair to women, gays, non-whites, handicapped people, short people, and stupid people. You can find pros and cons for belonging to almost any subgroup in the human race if you want to find them. What really annoys me though is when some 5'2", 95 lb woman decides she wants to be a firefighter and the rest of society feels it necessary to bend the rules and requirements to allow her to do so even though she obviously isn't the best person for the job - nothing wrong with playing to your strengths.

[Canus Chinookus]

How does that saying go? "Life isn't fair" Except if you're a white male. Yup. No challenges here, everything's been fair for me.

[Maverick]

Yes, the poor opressed white male has been denied throughout history and the sufferring continues.  The world is so unfair to the opressed white male, being denied opportunity!!!!!

For the love of god will someone please tell me when we will see a day when an opressed white male can be a CEO or a Prime Minister or a President.  Maybe one day we will see a white male get a position of influence in a company.

WON'T SOMEONE CONSIDER THE WHITE MALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C'mon Chock, you know the context to which Rattler is referring.

I live in Richmond and I've experienced some pretty staggering events that can only be considered racist. Unfortunately being the white male that I am it's not considered a problem since, well, I'm a white male. The point I'm making is other races in Canada can do some pretty bad stuff but they are not "called" on it like white people are.

Just for sh!ts and giggles find an east Indian or Chinese person that you know well enough to get a straight answer. Ask them how in large groups there will sometimes be a very vocal group that will absolutely trash talk the white people but in their language. This happens quite a lot in the ethnic markets but in large part there is a "conspiracy of silence" by those that choose not to participate.

But, if the same kind of things happen to some other races it's front page news. "White thugs throw racial epithets at cab driver". etc.

I agree with rattler, damned if we do and damned if we don't.

[Guest woxof]

Some are willing to allow discrimmination against others based on skin colour and/or gender. Some are even willing to have racist laws, in the past and in the present. They are quite disgusting and repulsive people and they know who they are...and so do we.

[Seeker]

Some are willing to allow discrimmination against others based on skin colour and/or gender. Some are even willing to have racist laws, in the past and in the present. They are quite disgusting and repulsive people and they know who they are...and so do we.

You're insinuating something but damned if I can figure out what it is?

[Guest woxof]

Just sayin' it like it is. I of course would assume that you don't fall into this category. Isn't that correct?

Woxof...Believing all are equal(except convicted criminals of course).

[Seeker]

I of course would assume that you don't fall into this category. Isn't that correct?

Well, probably not, but I don't really understand what it is that you're saying so I remain non-comital.

[Check Pilot]

There is racism and also religious discrimination against us white people.

When my wife and I moved from Winnipeg to Edmonton in 2005, we bought a 25 year old house and moved into a neighborhood we chose because of the very low crime rates posted by the city of Edmonton. It was one of the worst choices we could have made.

It was one of the worst areas we could have chosen, because a lot of the neighbors could not speak or understand my native English tongue nor were the next door neighbors willing to even try.

The area was rife with break-ins, burglaries and assaults. No one, except for us, when we saw them, reported them because of the extremely strong pressure from the local community groups and lots of individuals wanting to keep the area out of the surveillance that the police could have provided, if they had known. We were not welcomed by most of our neighbors because we were considered "infidels".

It only took us 15 months and about $150,000 to get the 25 year old house up to speed especially after Israel shot and bombed the crap out of the Lebanese whackos when the Lebanese guys kept firing rockets into Israeli territory and the Israeli's struck back. One night, about 10 or so of our next door neighbors were outside waving Lebanese flags and shouting "Fu@k Israel and their infidels". I was sitting on our front step that day and during this crap, got a lot of really dirty looks for being a white Christian guy living in the so called "Camel Downs" part of Edmonton. I was a white Anglo-Saxon protestant guy from Alberta but I knew I sure didn't belong and sure wasn't welcome in that part of Edmonton.

That was reverse discrimination in the most Canadian of ways. Yet I put up with it because I knew no Human Rights Tribunal would likely want to touch that with 10 foot pole.

It didn't take long after that and we sold the house and moved to a way more "white, non discriminatory" part of Edmonton.

As a kind of a parting shot on our part, was that we walked out of that house with about a 100G's profit in our jeans after selling out to a family that was of "Muslim" origin. At least those folks get to stay in their own chosen neighborhood. Good for them.

[DEFCON]

The story above and many like it say but one thing, the white children of today’s Canada are going to be in big trouble going forward as population demographics shift.

I've never understood, why the "news" will report that two white guys beat and robbed a person of colour thereby rendering the event a crime of hate that’s racially motivated whereas the white guy that suffers a similar insult at the hands of blacks is deemed to have been the victim of a simple robbery regardless of any racially motivated epitaphs etc that were issued?

[DEFCON]

“Yes, the poor opressed white male has been denied throughout history and the sufferring continues. The world is so unfair to the opressed white male, being denied opportunity!!!!!

For the love of god will someone please tell me when we will see a day when an opressed white male can be a CEO or a Prime Minister or a President. Maybe one day we will see a white male get a position of influence in a company.

WON'T SOMEONE CONSIDER THE WHITE MALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

It would seem, regardless of race, creed, colour, sex or religious affiliation, people from around the planet continue to seek a “new” life in North America.

One could presume, North America was built to offer something better for all that have come.

As an aside I think it’s important to note, different groups of “white” immigrants to North America were also subject to severe forms of discrimination following their arrival.

Anyway, whites were the dominant presence here for a very long time. Under their guidance North America was built and became the great place everyone seemed to want to be. Ever since the woman’s liberation movement started, it’s become fashionable to beat on the white guy?

It’s seems everyone now wants to undo the white guys good work, blame him for making this part of the world what it once was and as it’s going, turn it into the kind of sh!t hole the third world is.

Ironic, isn’t it!

[Guest rattler]

The problem we have in Canada and it is not new, is that we allow immigrants to come to live here and bring their entire old culture with them. No need on their behalf to adopt ours. Of course as I said, this is not new, every wave of immigration into Canada has enjoyed the same privilege, the major difference this time around is that previous immigration waves came mostly from the Orient,

Europe and to a lesser extent the USA.

Our cultural makeup is changing and the only solution would seem to be to slow down the influx along with some plan regarding how we can assimilate the new and very different cultures.

One suggestion is that we establish schools for immigrants in the major countries that we are now receiving immigrants from and insist that all immigrants receive cultural training (of course we would need to decide what our culture really is) and only then be allowed to immigrate with the full knowledge that our culture is different and that they would be expected to adopt to our way of life until such time as they became citizens and only then expect to bring about change through our legislative process.

Of course we would also need to change our laws to include :

- if you commit a crime before you become a citizen, then you have no right to remain in Canada.

Hard and fast, no second chance, one strike and you are out!

[Guest woxof]

Of course we would also need to change our laws to include :

- if you commit a crime before you become a citizen, then you have no right to remain in Canada.

Hard and fast, no second chance, one strike and you are out!

Within reason(one mile over the speed limit), that is a good idea, but i don't see the connection to race or discrimmination when it comes to a law like this, which is sort of the topic on this later section of the thread.

[Airband]

UK plans to take back the nation....

[DEFCON]

The first of hopefully many more better ideas to come.

[chockalicious]

I think The Netherlands has done this in response to some killings by Muslims, especially the Dutch filmaker who made a film critical of Islam.

Australia has come down hard on Muslim immigtants. The breaking point was the rape of an Australian woman who had the temerity to go topless on a beach and thus deserved what was coming to her in their minds.

Rattler makes a good point about how do you define Canadian culture to make people assimilate? I certainly don't know and I don't think people living in ethnic enclaves is a good thing but it seems to be the norm.

I think killing any government funding of any multiculturalism is a good place to start, one of Trudeau's legacies that still kicks up in the pants today.

As for my earlier comment about the opressed white man, it was obviously over the top however I do think there is a certain amount of bellyaching from a certain segment of people who have never been put a disadvantage because of the color of their skin.

[Guest woxof]

As for my earlier comment about the opressed white man, it was obviously over the top however I do think there is a certain amount of bellyaching from a certain segment of people who have never been put a disadvantage because of the color of their skin.

Of course sound, reasonable arguments are always preferable in any debate as compared to "over the top' statements which destroy credibility.

As for the never been put at a disadvantage, I suggest you look at some laws today. Something wonderful happened recently. The nominee for the supreme court of the U.S. had her bigoted ruling concerning firefighters overturned. Somehow she felt that getting the best marks in tests for the job should not be what is used to determine whether or not you get hired(if you have only a particular skin colour). And supposedly she is respected?

What a wonderful day when the supreme court knocked down her racist judgement. After all, it was based on one thing only....race, not whether there was any possibility that there could have been well to do black firefighters and trailer park trash background white firefighters. Only race.