Kip Powick Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Limited news at this time...possibly no deaths...the one photo shows wheel marks going through a field... (CNN)No deaths have been reported in the accident involving an Aeromexico plane Tuesday in Durango, Mexico, according to the state's governor José R. Aispuro. Ninety-seven passengers and four crew were on board the Embraer 190 aircraft, said the country's Transportation Minister Gerardo Ruiz Esparza. Aeromexico said it was aware of the accident involving one of its planes flying from Durango to Mexico City. The accident happened close to Guadalupe Victoria International Airport in Durango, said the airport, which is now closed. possible wheel tracks ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Quote Airliner crashes in Durango after take-off in Mexico 21 minutes ago Share this with Facebook Share this with Messenger Share this with Twitter Share this with Email Share this with Facebook Share this with WhatsApp Share this with Messenger Share this with Twitter Share Share this with These are external links and will open in a new window Email Share this with Email Facebook Share this with Facebook Messenger Share this with Messenger Messenger Share this with Messenger Twitter Share this with Twitter Pinterest Share this with Pinterest WhatsApp Share this with WhatsApp LinkedIn Share this with LinkedIn Copy this link https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-45027112 Read more about sharing. These are external links and will open in a new window Close share panel Image copyright Protección Civil Durango/Twitter Image caption The plane was destined for Mexico City, and had 97 passengers and four crew aboard A plane has crashed in the capital of Mexico's Durango state, television images show, with the state governor confirming nobody was killed. Governor José Aispuro tweeted that there were no deaths among the 97 passengers and four crew aboard, although there were injuries. Aeroméxico flight AM2431 was flying from Guadalupe Victoria International Airport to Mexico City. The crash happened 10km (six miles) from the airport just after take-off. Governor Aispuro said witnesses told him there was a "bang", before the Embraer 190 fell to the ground without warning at around 16:00 local time (21:00 GMT). On the scene reports say passengers were seen walking to a nearby road to seek help. The governor said all health care bodies in the state were on alert to take care of the injured. Emergency services are at the scene, with footage showing smoke billowing from the aircraft, an Embraer 190. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 "Engine blew up at around V1....airplane over ran end of runway".....says one report...Diagram on AvHerald (probably 600 meters, not 6 miles from airport) More pics and info on AVHerald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 There are suggestions by passengers that one wing touched the runway on takeoff. That doesn't suggest a cause - it could have been the rest of an engine event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Interesting how far back of the final position that the engines are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudder Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Airplane was clearly airborne. Interesting that a possible engine failure event resulted in a total hull loss. Also hearing authorities are talking about possible wind shear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, rudder said: Airplane was clearly airborne. Interesting that a possible engine failure event resulted in a total hull loss. Also hearing authorities are talking about possible wind shear. What makes you say that ?? Did you read what info they have on AVHerald ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudder Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Kip Powick said: What makes you say that ?? Did you read what info they have on AVHerald ?? Fair enough. Picture above identifies both detached engines as resting on the runway. Avherald video clearly shows both engines off the runway to the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 My WAG.... Loss of engine due to internal engine failure......at what V factor ????? If after V1 then perhaps it was so close to V1 that someone decided to keep going where as the other soul decided to attempt a reject and a bit of confusion ensued...... and the bird became a lawn mower. I'm sure the CVR will have the facts and the investigation team will give us all the "hot scoop". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted August 1, 2018 Author Share Posted August 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, rudder said: Fair enough. Picture above identifies both detached engines as resting on the runway. Avherald video clearly shows both engines off the runway to the left. Indeed, but one person comments that after watching the video on AVHerald it is one engine in two parts ??? Hard to figure as the "engine parts?" are out on the grass in the video and not easy to ascertain if it is one engine or actually both engines, maybe one ripped off when the "accordng to one witness" the wing touched the ground... Only time will tell I guess..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted August 2, 2018 Author Share Posted August 2, 2018 Two pax"out the window" videos during the Take-off , one of which carries on after the evacuation....AVHerald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 Looks to me like they transition from moderate rain into heavy rain, get airborne and then as they exit the heavy rain the aircraft descends into the ground. I can't see or hear any evidence of an engine failure so, microburst? A decreasing performance wind shear exiting the microburst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 They never even got airborne. Flap zero takeoff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I was watching for a change in pitch attitude during the takeoff run....didn’t notice any.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 Any chance the takeoff was attempted just as a storm related front crossed the field? If that had happened the headwind component would have reversed to become a tailwind and the aircraft would never be capable of accelerating to Vr on the runway remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, DEFCON said: Any chance the takeoff was attempted just as a storm related front crossed the field? If that had happened the headwind component would have reversed to become a tailwind and the aircraft would never be capable of accelerating to Vr on the runway remaining. Aaah, that's exactly what I said in my post two above yours. Except I believe the aircraft got airborne and settled back onto the runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 I missed your comment and went right to the video, but yes, I guess you did say much the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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