FA@AC Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 https://onemileatatime.com/news/delta-airbus-a350-slices-tail-off-regional-jet-atlanta/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 A little speed tape and it'll be good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 video Two Delta planes collide on an Atlanta taxiway, knocking the tail off one (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted September 10 Share Posted September 10 (edited) Had me thinking of some of the pedestrian-vehicle accidents we have where the driver of a pickup or large SUV is so high off the ground he or she literally doesn't see a pedestrian walking in front of the vehicle. I wonder if the cockpit crew of the 350 could even see the smaller plane from up close, or at least had trouble estimating distance and speed at such close quarters as it came upon the CRJ Edited September 10 by dagger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 17 hours ago, dagger said: Had me thinking of some of the pedestrian-vehicle accidents we have where the driver of a pickup or large SUV is so high off the ground he or she literally doesn't see a pedestrian walking in front of the vehicle. I wonder if the cockpit crew of the 350 could even see the smaller plane from up close, or at least had trouble estimating distance and speed at such close quarters as it came upon the CRJ The A350 is the largest aircraft in the Delta fleet. I've flown the A330 and it's almost impossible to properly judge wingtip clearance from the flight deck, and the A350 would only be even more difficult. In the case of this incident, the captain would be relying on the first officer to be monitoring that side of the aircraft. On Juan Brown's YouTube channel, he did an analysis of the scene based on the pictures and he believes that if the CRJ had been parked at the hold line, there would have been adequate clearance. Since the CRJ was parked about 50 feet short of that line, the A350's wingtip was perfectly aligned with the tail of the CRJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 I would think that if the clearance is suspect, and I’m assuming you can see the wing tip from the cockpit, why wouldn’t the 350 stop, tell ground to have the CRJ move up so that “wing tip clearance could be assured”? (Can’t remember where I’ve heard that before!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Shallow angle and 150 feet (or whatever ) of wing would make it very difficult to judge especially from the cockpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J.O. Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 This video shows the actual collision sequence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzZgWCrFoXI The CRJ appears to be stationary. If this is true, it means they did indeed stop well short of the hold line. I'm not saying they are at fault because it is the responsibility of the crew of each moving aircraft to ensure they are avoiding all obstacles, but a taxi clearance for the A350 crew may have created a false sense of security, especially if it is routine to taxi past regional aircraft holding short on that taxiway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 On one video, the 350 crew states they had a problem and needed to sort it out….ground gave them clearance to proceed past the taxiway for departure runway…maybe a case of heads down with the problem rather than looking outside while taxiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Foxtrot Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 I seem to remember an incident in YVR that was very similar. A Dash 8 300 had it's tail removed by an A330 in almost exactly the same circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 That's right! I had forgotten about that. Tim Lai, Vancouver Sun Published: Friday, September 19, 2008 RICHMOND - Two Air Canada planes collided on the south runway at Vancouver International Airport Thursday afternoon, causing minor damage to both, said Bill Yearwood of the Transportation Safety Board. He said there were no injuries to the passengers or crew on either plane. The wingtip of a Hong Kong-bound Air Canada Airbus 340 hit the tail of an Air Canada Jazz Dash-8 as it was taxiing to the runway for takeoff. He said it's not the first time a collision has occurred at that location at the airport and all parties will examine how to prevent similar incidents in the future. Neither plane made its scheduled flight, due to necessary repairs. Passengers were booked on other flights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 That Dash8 was Out of service for a very long time. The entire tail section of the aircraft was replaced from the pressure bulkhead back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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