New noise reduction at Pearson

[Guest2]

Is this fly high and then dive in?

Toronto Pearson adopts new landing procedures to lower noise, emissions

Toronto Pearson International Airport is seen in this undated photo. (The Canadian Press)

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Published Nov. 29, 2022 10:44 a.m. MST

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Canada's largest airport is adopting new landing procedures in order to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and noise caused by descending airplanes.

Nav Canada, a corporation that runs the country's civil air navigation system, says the practices at Toronto Pearson International Airport will cut down on fuel burn and the overflight of nearby residential areas.

The national navigation agency saysPearson is now using satellite-based data and modern flight management systems to help airplanes arrive at the same time on parallel runways.

Airplanes approaching the airport from the south are able to fly 1,000 feet higher than before, which Nav Canada says will reduce noise over some communities.

The navigation agency says an Air Canada flight flying from London's Heathrow Airport to Pearson was one of the first flights to use the new practices on Monday.

Pearson is the second airport in Canada to roll out the procedures after Calgary International Airport did in 2018.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Nov. 29, 2022.

[Seeker]

Well, that's not true.  Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Ottawa, Halifax, Saint John, St John's, etc have had, and been using, these approaches since 2018 too.  Pearson has had the exact same procedures but hasn't used them.  It's not new at all, they just didn't use them.

 

[Kip Powick]

 

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Is this fly high and then dive in ?

Yes, According to YYZ ATC...the new A320 SOP will have the A320 at specific fixes approximately 30 miles outside of YYZ at an assigned  altitude  of between FL200 and FL250, (depending on wind) . At that point both engines will be shut down, the RAT extended and a dead stick landing will be initiated using GPS as well as ex RCAF GCA controllers when the weather is not condusive to VFR arrivals.

Ammendments forth coming in the near future.for other aircraft types

Althought this procedure may seem onerous for the pilots, it will alleviate all the noise concerns from the population who constructed  their homes AFTER the airport was built. 

[Vsplat]

Ah.  I wondered how they would manage these steep profiles in icing season when idle kicks up.  Shutting down the engines solves that problem nicely.  Should get that go around rate down too.

Did I fall asleep and wake up on April first?  popcorn at the ready.

Vs

[conehead]

4 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

 

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Is this fly high and then dive in ?

Yes, According to YYZ ATC...the new A320 SOP will have the A320 at specific fixes approximately 30 miles outside of YYZ at an assigned  altitude  of between FL200 and FL250, (depending on wind) . At that point both engines will be shut down, the RAT extended and a dead stick landing will be initiated using GPS as well as ex RCAF GCA controllers when the weather is not condusive to VFR arrivals.

Ammendments forth coming in the near future.for other aircraft types

Althought this procedure may seem onerous for the pilots, it will alleviate all the noise concerns from the population who constructed  their homes AFTER the airport was built. 

Noise reduction? That RAT is pretty loud when it's spinning... 

[Rich Pulman]

1 hour ago, conehead said:

Noise reduction? That RAT is pretty loud when it's spinning... 

Even the A330 RAT which is way out on the wing can be heard and felt in the cockpit. 

[Moon The Loon]

CYYZ in conjunction with NavCanada (as much a victim of CYYZ itself) continue to ignore standards long set out in Europe with continuous descents from altitude, advancing power only in the very final stage of landing approach.