Malcolm Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) Edited April 17 by Malcolm Because 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 The "Capture" above is very misleading. Choppers DO NOT hover while refueling tanks. Not a real big deal as the helos land, the tanks drive up and are fueled . It is actually called ADGF (Air Delivered Ground Refueling) The give away in the photo is that there doesn't appear to be any downwash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 25 minutes ago, Kip Powick said: The give away in the photo is that there doesn't appear to be any downwash.... That and the fact that not a single one of 6 dudes is looking up at the massive helicopter hovering 6 feet above their heads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 16 Author Share Posted April 16 47 minutes ago, Seeker said: That and the fact that not a single one of 6 dudes is looking up at the massive helicopter hovering 6 feet above their heads! why would they be looking up? more important to keep an eye on the fueling hose Fake or perhaps just something beyond retired personal experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 36 minutes ago, Malcolm said: why would they be looking up? more important to keep an eye on the fueling hose Fake or perhaps just something beyond retired personal experience? Malcolm, that initial photo is pure FAKE.......I may be retired but not without some left-over aerodynamic knowledge...not a breath of wind evident .......courtesy helo or weather Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 59 minutes ago, Malcolm said: why would they be looking up? more important to keep an eye on the fueling hose Fake or perhaps just something beyond retired personal experience? As Kip says - totally fake. No downdraft and, I don't care who you are, if there's a helicopter hovering 6 feet above you - YOU'RE LOOKING UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Malcolm Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Do you share Kip an Seeker's pov or ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Pulman Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Malcolm said: Do you share Kip an Seeker's pov or ????? Yes and no. Yes, it’s fake. No, they wouldn’t be looking up. The dust storm a helicopter that size would create would have everyone trying to bury there head somewhere where the Sun doesn’t shine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Rich Pulman said: Yes and no. Yes, it’s fake. No, they wouldn’t be looking up. The dust storm a helicopter that size would create would have everyone trying to bury there head somewhere where the Sun doesn’t shine. I’ve refueled a helicopter from the deck of a ship while it was hovering over me… believe me, you cast a glance upwards occasionally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 7 hours ago, conehead said: I’ve refueled a helicopter from the deck of a ship while it was hovering over me… believe me, you cast a glance upwards occasionally! Yes, because if it was a SeaKing and it landed, it would probably be unserviceable 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Also, don't all U.S. military vehicles use the same fuel for simplified operations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolm Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, deicer said: Also, don't all U.S. military vehicles use the same fuel for simplified operations? some use diesel, others JP8 and jp5. In addition, 68-ton tanks require a lot of fuel. US Deputy Defense Secretary Laura Cooper called Abrams a "gasoline guzzler." It travels only about a kilometer on almost 4 liters of fuel. The US Army fuels its M1s with jet fuel, while other countriesʼ militaries put cheaper diesel into their Abrams.Nov 30, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Diesel and jet fuel are essentially the same thing. Jet fuel does not have the additives for lubrication. I know plenty of guys that run their Jettas on JetA. Fill it with Jet A and a few ounces of Stanodyne and you are good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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