deicer Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 And the B-737 had already been flying four and one half years. I am glad that Airbus built something to succeed it since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Boeing's motto " If it ain't broke, mess with it until it is." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Me............Why doesn't all your new aircraft have "side-stick" controls ? Boeing.....NIH Me...........???? Boeing....Not Invented Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) I've spent my whole career primarily working on Boeing aircraft. Love 'em for sure but I was lucky enough to spend about a year working on the A300-B2F and A300-B4F for ICC (remember them?). Very cool airplanes but I was always struck at how similar the cockpit was laid out like the mighty DC-10, in particular the Flight Engineers station. I think Mitch might have worked on both of them at the same time in the Wardair days? Regardless, what would the commercial aircraft world look like today if the FAA had granted McDonnell Douglas the twin engine ETOPS exemption they asked for when they originally designed the (twin-engined) DC-10? Edited October 30, 2022 by Maverick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falken Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Yes I remember ICC. My old Chief Pilot worked there. (Cliff S) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest2 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I didn't know about the twin DC10. Thanks Some more on the twin 10 Aircraft – McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Twin – Northwest Airlines History Center Very lengthy article on lots of pictures, drawings etc. How McDonnell Douglas missed the Big Twin and disappeared - Airline Ratings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Could you imagine a DC-10 -Twin? I wouldnt grant ETOPS either with the triples track record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 There was a very interesting book, "Destination Disaster", which looked into the DC-10. The authors were sued for the tone of the writing in the UK but the lawsuit never went anywhere as far as I know. The basic facts were not disputed. The wrongdoing in the whole affair makes Boeing look mild these days. Also interesting that MD management filled in the top positions after the merger. Unfortunately I lent my copy and it is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, Floyd said: Destination Disaster", Available here... https://www.amazon.ca/Destination-Disaster-Paul-Eddy/dp/0246108835 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Thanks Kip. So many of the faults within the system were present back then and reappeared with the Max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 There was a joke within Boeing that McDonnell Douglas bought Boeing with Boeing's money. Not in a good way. Harry Stonecipher brought everything bad about MD to Boeing's detriment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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