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  1. I remember talking to mtc in WG where they did the heavy checks. The initial thoughts were the A320 was 'disposable' as it was built too lightly. When they started doing the H checks, they found less cracking, less corrosion and a much better designed and built airplane. While they have had their issues, they are nothing compared to the lipstick on the pig we are seeing with the '37.
  2. Just in case you would like to see the text exchange... https://www.npr.org/2019/10/18/771451904/boeing-pilots-detected-737-max-flight-control-glitch-two-years-before-deadly-cra
  3. When the DC-10 was being pressure tested a lower cargo door blew open. The floor then collapsed on the flight control cables. This failure chain had been predicted by the subcontractor who was involved in the fuselage build. It was also predicted this would result in the loss of the aircraft. We all know how this ended.
  4. The de-icing inspector should read the "No Step" where he has his right foot!
  5. Regarding the DC-10. There was an excellent book in the '80s called Destination Disaster. Despite the overly dramatic title, I think it was a well researched examination of the development of the DC-10. For example, before the fuselage was built, the subcontractor challenged Douglas on the design of the control runs, predicting that a lower lobe depressurization would jam the flight controls. They were told to build it as drawn. The first test article was pressure tested outside the factory. A lower cargo door blew open and the floor collapsed on the flight controls. It got certified ... They had other items which made you never want to leave the earth on one of those things. And then we get to some of the stability issues with the MD-11. I also commend Airbus for not commenting on these issues, despite all the criticism they got from Boeing while developing the A-380.
  6. Thanks for posting this Greg, and Kip, thanks for taking your new FOs to the graves. This is how we show respect. My aunt's brother was on that flight and I remember hearing the story when I was growing up. I will pass this on to my cousin. In my memory the crash happened at Christmas, but obviously not. I used to work in the islands and can appreciate the conditions up there. Fortunately we had good equipment and a company which did not push wx.