Guest Max Continuous Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 http://www.robtv.com/channels/hubs/pastprograms_highlights.html 3:15 PM ET Market Pulse with Michael Hainsworth Daily News: Canadian Airline Industry, Shoppers Drug Mart, Manufaturing Sector Michael Den Tandt, Columnist, The Globe and Mail Duration:6m 57s Could someone please attempt to explain how this man's mind works, assuming that there is one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 David Collenette is interested in trains and only trains. Maybe someone should get him a 1903 desk calendar or something. Look no further than his interest in keeping that stupid Ontario to from nowhere to nowhere train running. It would probably be more economical to charter the space shuttle back and forth for the half dozen people who actually ride it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 Might be a good idea to get DR!'s opinion on this. I think he might feel caught between a rock and a hard place though. Wonder if the new ranch is big enough to hold all that .327 gauge! Or is it HO? Been awhile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsplat Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 This is the best case so far of the results of a teflon suit. A string of failures that would shame most of us into a dark corner for life, yet no change in operations. I can only hope that we get a change in government and/or senior leadership in time to save what is left of this industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RKM Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 I have to be honest and say I am glad they are putting money back into the rail system in this country. After all that's what opened up this land from coast to coast, it's part of our heritage. Lets be honest here, air travel has come down to a level on par with the TTC! If you haven't done so for a while give the train a shot you might just like what you experience! It's still a great way to travel if you have the time. Protective headgear in place…let the flaming begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kevenv Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 I often wish I had the time to take my son on a trip by train. I did so when I was younger and remember the jouney being as much fun as the destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 I agree. It's often thought that Transport Canada = Aviation. However, TC is a multi-modal department and has to balance the needs and desires of air, road, rail and marine interests. We're all involved with aviation on this forum so that's our main concern. However, the employees of the other modes of transportation in this country are just as concerned about their jobs and have just as much right to expect the attention and support of the government... And I also love to travel by train when the opportunity presents itself. It's a great way to see the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest M. McRae Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 My own experiences with rail travel (coach) YVR-YWG during an airline strike in the 70s were less than enjoyable but I am sure things have improved. Following is an interesting news release on the subject: Transport 2000 calls on the Air Transportation Association of Canada to work with all transportation modes TORONTO, July 17 /CNW/ - "Transport 2000 Canada is today asking ATAC to end its campaign against the federal government's passenger rail initiatives and instead to work with all public transportation modes to build a better public transportation system for the future," says David Jeanes, President of Transport 2000 Canada. In recent months the Air Transportation Association of Canada (ATAC) has levelled harsh criticisms of the federal government's support for VIA Rail and its plan to invest in a high-speed rail corridor between Toronto and Montreal. ATAC claims the plan is an unfair intervention in the market place that undermines the aviation industry. At the same time ATAC has increased its demands for subsidies including: - rent reductions payable to the federal government for local airport authorities; - air transport security costs; - exemption from Kyoto standards; and - support for Air Canada. ATAC ignores the federal government's provision of terrorism insurance coverage for the aviation industry and the government's initial investment in Nav Canada. Over the last fifty years the aviation industry received about ten times the amount of taxpayer investment in infrastructure the railway industry received. "If ATAC is worried about the skewing effect of subsides on the transportation industry it should look in the mirror," Transport 2000 Founding President Harry Gow says. "It might also want to take a look at the annual multi-billion dollar subsidization of Canadian roads. The fact is all modes are subsidized. Now is the right time to move the subsides around and shift a little more into rail." http://www.newswire.ca/releases/July2003/17/c3108.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JC Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 What security system is in place for train travel. Are passengers required to go through security? If not, why not? What type of security is there to ensure the rails are clear and safe? Are all the taxes that are added to air travel also added to train travel? Just curious as to people's opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steam Driven Posted July 17, 2003 Share Posted July 17, 2003 These are points that I have brought up many times on the forum and with e-mails and letter to the Minister of Transport. Not only rail travel, how about cruise and cargo ships? The vehicles that cross the border? I'm sure they are all subject to increased security, but carry no where near the burden as the Airline traveller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mars Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 The train can only go where the tracks do. A train hijacker may threaten as much as he wants, but he isn't going to get to Cuba or Libya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steam Driven Posted July 18, 2003 Share Posted July 18, 2003 That may be true, but the perpetrators of Sept. 11th had no desire to go anywhere but to meet Mohamed. Taking out a train full of petrochemicals, could level Toronto, and decimate the surrounding population. One Ammonia spill and the Hazmat teams have their hands full, what could a planned effort do? There's a pretty big switching yard just north of the city... :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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