E-HANDLE Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Halifax to Toronto for $35 this summer. http://www.newswire.ca/releases/June2003/12/c2682.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 Doesn't beat this: Vancouver-Singapore, plus two night in a hotel and airport transfers for $699. http://www.newswire.ca/releases/June2003/12/c2715.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GDR Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 I suppose if the seats are going empty and we want to get people flying again...... Hope it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simcoe Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 It gives me a nice warm feeling knowing that I've given up a great deal of income so I can personally subsidize management's continued stupidity. The fish stinks from the head down at AC. Until it gets lopped off, we're headed towards liquidation. Bragging about $12 fares, or $35 from YHZ-YYZ is the height of stupidity. So what if jetsgo fills up at these fares. It's peak summer. Everyone will be full. Let Jetsgo fill up at Leblanc's fares. He's going broke too, just like Intair and Royal. Have you noticed that everytime he gets close to actually having to add equipment and pay the expense of flying it, he announces more new aircraft / routes? It's called cash flow. Use tomorrow's bookings for flights on aircraft you don't have to pay todays bills. He'll announce more in September to cash flow through Sept, Oct, Nov and early December. Cash flow is not the same as profit, gang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 "Have you noticed that everytime he gets close to actually having to add equipment and pay the expense of flying it, he announces more new aircraft / routes? It's called cash flow. Use tomorrow's bookings for flights on aircraft you don't have to pay todays bills. He'll announce more in September to cash flow through Sept, Oct, Nov and early December. Cash flow is not the same as profit, gang." This was a huge part of Canada 3000's original business plan. Right time and place and it worked. Until the cash stopped coming in on 12 Sept. 2001... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airmail Posted June 12, 2003 Share Posted June 12, 2003 If you haven't yet noticed, no this is not like any other summer...all that traffic from Europe and Asia that came in to YYZ and YVR to fill the onward domestic flight isn't materializing. The Americans are also not coming up because of SARS and Chretien. So what should management do? Charge high fares no one will pay so the planes left flying are flying around empty? This is called "stimulating traffic" and if traffic isn't stimulated in this environment, it's not coming on it's own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Cheap fares are the style. Currently on offer: SFO-SIN on UA $358usd all in SQ started it. SEA-BNA on AA $165usd IAH-EWR on UA $101usd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 There is also the point that the surcharges - those ugly fuel and insurcharges - are revenue for the carrier that isn't reflected in any base far. So think of it as enticing people on board with cheap fares so they can help pay for the fuel. Odd bit of logic, but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest b52er Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 This is exactly why, as I had posted 2-3 months ago, others working for successful airlines, should find lawyers who will consider taking on cases involving class actions suits against AC if other airlines run into financial difficulty as a result of this type of fare structure, obviously below the cost of producing the product. It directly affects livelyhoods and jeopardizes our industry. Certainly this negative effect should be scrutinized and those responsible for jeopardizing others and placing their income earning at risk must be held accountable. Once again, any lawyers lurking interested in looking at this if and when it comes to fruitition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 A hint of concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest floatrr Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 Just like you to try and kick em' when they're down. Go bury your head in the sand! One day it may be you and your bushy tailed company in trouble. I expect you will be treated with a bit more dignity than you are showing here if it ever happens to you. Now run along and count all your profit sharing money or go and cross some seat belts or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Vermillion Bay Posted June 13, 2003 Share Posted June 13, 2003 And maybe Air Canada should start a lawsuit and go after some of the airlines, such as WJ, to collect some of the fees and charges paid to airports, Nav Canada, Security, etc etc. Any improvement that has come to any of these services in the last 10yrs have been mostly paid for by AC. Other airlines, such as the one you work, start up an airline and have had all these services in place and who paid for that, WestJet? Pay AC back the use of all these great buildings you use to board your passengers the ATC system you use, then we will talk about your hardship down the road. You spoiled brat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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