Guest gmcgregor Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 A few years ago, during the attempted Onex takover of AC, there was some chatter on here about Gerry Schwartz's Gulfstream IV. I think somebody had a tail number. Has anyone seen it recently, and notice who was travelling on it, beside Gerry and his wife, Heather Reismann? If anyone has had a sighting, please drop me an email, in confidence, at gmcgregor@thecitizen.canwest.com Thanks, Glen McGregor Ottawa Citizen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fax Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Take your tittle-tattle gossip search elsewhere. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmcgregor Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 The folks who visit this site spend a hell of a lot more time on the runway than I do, and stand a much better chance of seeing the G-IV than I do, even with good binocs. If they've seen the person I think they have, it will save me a lot of tail-chasing elsewhere. If not, no big deal. Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Glen there are 436 Gulfstream GIVs registed in the USA. Do you know what corp owns Schwartz's GIV or in what state it's parked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmcgregor Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 The tail number going around a few years back was N-240CX. THere's a picture at... http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=18815 It's registered to SkyAire Inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Doesn't sound like Gerry would be on this registration..... N240CX is Assigned Assigned/Registered Aircraft Aircraft Description Serial Number 1370 Type Registration Corporation Manufacturer Name GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE Certificate Issue Date 11/04/1999 Model G-IV Status Valid Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Multi-Engine Type Engine Turbo-Jet Pending Number Change None Dealer No Date Change Authorized None Mode S Code 50430107 MFR Year 1999 Fractional Owner NO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Registered Owner Name WELLS FARGO BANK NORTHWEST NA TRUSTEE Street 299 S MAIN ST # U1228-120 City SALT LAKE CITY State UTAH Zip Code 84111-2263 County SALT LAKE Country UNITED STATES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dorthy Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Bugs Bunny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest George Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Skyaire shows only one aircraft, a BE58, Beechcraft 58...I don't think Gerry would even make his valet ride in one of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Hi Glen: Not too likely that anyone here would be able to report on this. Business aviation happens a long way from where any of us work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 and I believe that one aircraft is leased by BARRICK GOLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmcgregor Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Actually, the Barrick G-IV is registered in Canada. The N-240CX is FAA registered. That was part of the knock against Schwartz when he was trying to buy AC-- he bought an American made exec jet (not a Bomber) and registered it in the States to avoid GST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerun Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 I think he has a GII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fax Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Come on longtimer, a reporter getting his info from a flippin' internet chit chat room...that is pretty lame & in my opinion is an example of how low the press will go to get a story......true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flyersclub Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 I can only see 3 registered in Canada: 1 C-FHPM Gulfstream G IV 994748 Ontario Inc. 2001-10-22 2 C-GBBB Gulfstream G-1159A Chartright Air Inc. 1999-03-17 3 C-GTEW Gulfstream G-1159 Skyservice Aviation Inc./Aviat 2000-12-21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Yup, but there is only one G-IV Me thinks Gerry's is registered in the States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Garneau Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 I think you're right, Kip, and I seem to recall that it might be hangered in Buffalo or Pittsburg. PG ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAS Posted March 12, 2003 Share Posted March 12, 2003 Or sitting in YYZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmcgregor Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Just to be clear, I would never write a story based on anything I read in here unless I can verify elsewhere. There's a difference between getting a lead from here and establishing fact, which must be done through conventional sources. Had someone posted, "I saw SO-AND-SO getting off the G-IV last Tuesday in YYZ" I would not have published it unless I could confirm through other channels. As I've said before, I come to this forum occassionally because there is a wealth of knowledge here about Canadian commercial aviation. I usually get severly flamed when I post a question here but I usally get useful responses too that allow me to make other inquiries in the right direction. Journalist are often criticized for not getting their facts straight about aviation. I come here to learn from people who know, even if I'm not quoting them. In this case, it does not appear the story I was exploring is panning out. Other sources have told me that the person I am interested in (a politician) does not fly on Gerry Schwartz's jet. Thanks to everyone who helped, anyway. -Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fax Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 "There's a difference between getting a lead from here and establishing fact, which must be done through conventional sources." Fair enough Glen.....good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jimmy Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 Mr. McGregor: I could tell you where Mr. Schwartz parks his Gulfstream, the registration and with a phone call I could find out who has been flying on it lately. I know his director of maintenance, I've met his pilots and I've been on the aircraft. It is very nice. But why would I or anyone else with this info give it to you? Have a Great Day, jimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmcgregor Posted March 13, 2003 Share Posted March 13, 2003 The reason I asked is because I thought there might be an an issue of public interest at stake. That is-- an elected official flying for free on the jet, which could create a conflict-of-interest for this person in the near future. Whether that's a compelling enough reason to help me, I'll leave up to you. From your tone, I have a hunch it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 "Oh wait, no one cares!" I do! If GM's seeking this info for the reasons provided consequently exposing Gerry's Lib buddy for what they are, we will be served! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gmcgregor Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 Relationships between politicians who will ultimately set airline policy and business leaders with demonstrated interest in the airline industry is not, in my view, gossip. Also, a politican who chose to fly on a private executive jet instead of commercial flight would, in my view, show poor judgment in a time when the industry is so badly on the ropes. It may not interest you, but I'm sure it would others. We don't poll but we do sample public interest everyday by selling the paper. Those who aren't interested don't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted March 14, 2003 Share Posted March 14, 2003 I'm with you on the issues as described however, the media brought down a very dirty Nixon gov and so, I would encourage any attempt the media may make to keep us informed as to how screwed over we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flyersclub Posted March 17, 2003 Share Posted March 17, 2003 jimmie do you fly a corporate jet?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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