Guest Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Earlier stories pointed out a need to replace the Jet used to ferry around our PM and others, perhaps, since our Government likes to buy used and also since Mexico is a friend, we can help them out and fill our need at the same time? Mexico's Obrador considering raffling off presidential jet AMLO, who generally dislikes travelling great distances, flies economy when necessary The Associated Press · Posted: Jan 17, 2020 12:10 PM ET | Last Updated: 17 minutes ago This Dec. 3, 2018, photo provided by the Mexican Presidential press office shows the presidential airplane at Benito Juárez International Airport in Mexico City. The Boeing Dreamliner failed to find a buyer after a year on sale at a U.S. airstrip. (Mexican Presidential press office via AP) 0 comments Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador announced Friday the latest in a series of desperate ideas to sell off his predecessor's official jet, which he says is too luxurious for a country where half the people live in poverty. López Obrador said he is considering raffling off the plane by selling six million raffle tickets at $25 US apiece. He offered to throw in a year's free operating time in case the winner of the lottery-style scheme doesn't have the money to operate the jet. López Obrador has floated four other ideas for selling the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, after the $130 million jet failed to find a buyer after a year on sale at a U.S. airstrip, where it piled up about $1.5 million in maintenance costs. He hasn't said yet whether he's considering a yard sale, but suggested that no idea has been ruled out. "Help me," he pleaded with reporters at his morning news conference, obviously floundering for ways to get rid of the plane. He said he has met with businessmen, seeking ideas of how to get rid of the white elephant. Stay-at-home president The jet is expensive to run and now configured to carry only 80 people, albeit with a full presidential suite with a bedroom and private bath; experts say it would be too expensive to reconfigure back into a commercial airliner that normally carries as many as 300 passengers. AMLO, as he is familiarly known in Mexico, has suggested bartering the plane in exchange for U.S. medical equipment, or selling it in shares to a group of businessmen for executive incentive programs. He has also offered to rent it out by the hour, in hopes of paying off the remainder of outstanding loans on the plane. Andrés Manuel López Obrador, centre left, is shown with the man he succeeded, Enrique Peña Nieto, at the National Palace in Mexico City on Aug. 20, 2018. (Carlos Jasso/Reuters) The austerity-minded president has vowed never to step foot on the jet his predecessor bought. He flies what is called tourist class, including lining up to check in and for security purposes. While campaigning, López Obrador embarked on an international tour to bolster his foreign policy bona fides in the election, but in his first year in office he skipped both the G20 summit in Japan and the United Nations General Assembly in New York and has not visited the White House. His meetings with Latin American leaders have all taken place in Mexico. López Obrador has travelled extensively by air within Mexico, however. Air travel also figured in one of López Obrador's first significant moves in office, as he cancelled a Mexico City airport project on which at least $2 billion had already been spent. He argued that his alternative plan to expand a military airbase farther from Mexico City for civilian use would ultimately prove to be $5 billion cheaper than finishing the started project, but the decision was generally unpopular and led to a sell-off in Mexican assets on world markets. Mexican president pledges end to 'sewer of corruption' at inauguration State-owned Mexican oil company defends response to pipeline leak as death toll rises With files from CBC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Foxtrot Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Why not? Contract the maintenance to Air Canada or Westjet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsplat Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Well, I think the optics of operating a Boeing at this stage of things might be difficult for the PMO. I have to wonder why it hasn't gone to a commercial operator. I know there will be numerous mods, but how expensive would it be to return to a commercial standard? Surely this fire sale would make up for it. Vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Foxtrot Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Let's not give up on Boeing yet. Some day they will stop getting "Trumped". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Vsplat said: Well, I think the optics of operating a Boeing at this stage of things might be difficult for the PMO. I have to wonder why it hasn't gone to a commercial operator. I know there will be numerous mods, but how expensive would it be to return to a commercial standard? Surely this fire sale would make up for it. Vs when have the Liberals worried about Optics that do not have a negative effect on the Liberal Minorities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QFE Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 22 hours ago, Marshall said: Earlier stories pointed out a need to replace the Jet used to ferry around our PM and others, perhaps, since our Government likes to buy used and also since Mexico is a friend, we can help them out and fill our need at the same time? Mexico's Obrador considering raffling off presidential jet AMLO, who generally dislikes travelling great distances, flies economy when necessary The Associated Press · Posted: Jan 17, 2020 12:10 PM ET | Last Updated: 17 minutes ago This Dec. 3, 2018, photo provided by the Mexican Presidential press office shows the presidential airplane at Benito Juárez International Airport in Mexico City. The Boeing Dreamliner failed to find a buyer after a year on sale at a U.S. airstrip. (Mexican Presidential press office via AP) 0 comments Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador announced Friday the latest in a series of desperate ideas to sell off his predecessor's official jet, which he says is too luxurious for a country where half the people live in poverty. López Obrador said he is considering raffling off the plane by selling six million raffle tickets at $25 US apiece. He offered to throw in a year's free operating time in case the winner of the lottery-style scheme doesn't have the money to operate the jet. López Obrador has floated four other ideas for selling the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, after the $130 million jet failed to find a buyer after a year on sale at a U.S. airstrip, where it piled up about $1.5 million in maintenance costs. He hasn't said yet whether he's considering a yard sale, but suggested that no idea has been ruled out. "Help me," he pleaded with reporters at his morning news conference, obviously floundering for ways to get rid of the plane. He said he has met with businessmen, seeking ideas of how to get rid of the white elephant. Stay-at-home president The jet is expensive to run and now configured to carry only 80 people, albeit with a full presidential suite with a bedroom and private bath; experts say it would be too expensive to reconfigure back into a commercial airliner that normally carries as many as 300 passengers. AMLO, as he is familiarly known in Mexico, has suggested bartering the plane in exchange for U.S. medical equipment, or selling it in shares to a group of businessmen for executive incentive programs. He has also offered to rent it out by the hour, in hopes of paying off the remainder of outstanding loans on the plane. Andrés Manuel López Obrador, centre left, is shown with the man he succeeded, Enrique Peña Nieto, at the National Palace in Mexico City on Aug. 20, 2018. (Carlos Jasso/Reuters) The austerity-minded president has vowed never to step foot on the jet his predecessor bought. He flies what is called tourist class, including lining up to check in and for security purposes. While campaigning, López Obrador embarked on an international tour to bolster his foreign policy bona fides in the election, but in his first year in office he skipped both the G20 summit in Japan and the United Nations General Assembly in New York and has not visited the White House. His meetings with Latin American leaders have all taken place in Mexico. López Obrador has travelled extensively by air within Mexico, however. Air travel also figured in one of López Obrador's first significant moves in office, as he cancelled a Mexico City airport project on which at least $2 billion had already been spent. He argued that his alternative plan to expand a military airbase farther from Mexico City for civilian use would ultimately prove to be $5 billion cheaper than finishing the started project, but the decision was generally unpopular and led to a sell-off in Mexican assets on world markets. Mexican president pledges end to 'sewer of corruption' at inauguration State-owned Mexican oil company defends response to pipeline leak as death toll rises With files from CBC News "Winner of the scheme doesn't have the money to operate the jet." Sounds like he is referring to Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I wonder if they have been reading this site and are following my suggestion that they sell the Jet to Canada? Quote Mexico tries to sell presidential jet to Trudeau, says it’s ‘bigger and better’ BY STAFF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS https://globalnews.ca/news/6477188/mexico-sell-plane-trudeau/ Mexico is trying to sell its luxurious presidential jet to Canada, but will raffle the plane off if the Canadians don’t want it, President Andrés Manuel López Obrador said Tuesday. The offer marks the latest chapter in a desperate effort to unload the large and lavish Boeing 787 Dreamliner that López Obrador views as wasteful. He said Tuesday that the plane bought for more than $200 million by his predecessor would be a step up for Canada’s prime minister. “We learned that Canadian Prime Minister Trudeau’s airplane had problems, and we offered it to them, but there hasn’t been an agreement yet,” López Obrador said. “The truth is that it is bigger than the Canadian prime minister’s, and better.” Officials have said Mexico would accept $130 million for the plane. López Obrador presented a prototype of the lottery-style ticket that would be issued for the jet if the raffle idea goes ahead. He said he hoped business owners would buy huge blocks of the 500-peso ($25) tickets. The government hopes to sell 6 million tickets and use the proceeds to buy medical equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GDR Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 I wonder if we could do a straight across swap with Mexico. Trudeau for Obrador. We can throw in a second round cabinet pick and Mexico can keep the 787. If necessary, (and it probably would be), we could sweeten the offer. Here's hopin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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