Kip Powick Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 This is a link to the Tower Controller, (tapes), during the 'land-short' B777 at LHR. Includes a tiny radar display of the field and traffic http://88.80.16.63/leak/ba-038-air-traffic-control-tape.wmv (Thanks to a buddy flying the triple 7 for another company) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlazer Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Did the evacuate call come over ATC versus the Cabin.... Sounds like the controller did a fine job. SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted December 12, 2009 Author Share Posted December 12, 2009 Did the evacuate call come over ATC versus the Cabin.... SB From what I have heard/read.....it initially came over ATC and then the Captain switched to PA and it went into the cabin.. In his haste to make the "Mayday" call and the event of "landing" he did not switch the radio over to PA....hardly blame the guy for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southshore Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 "Aircraft crashed". "things gone to hell in a handbasket'. "The world has ended as we know it". The response "Ta". Only the Brits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlazer Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Nope no blame being thrown at all..... a simple mistake in the heat of it all... in fact in the SIM I try to learn that muscle memory to switch the Push switch.....that being said I would probably done the same thing. SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted December 13, 2009 Author Share Posted December 13, 2009 Nope no blame being thrown at all..... Sorry, I did not mean to suggest that you were casting blame....my remark was merely making a statement about how harried the Captain must have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlazer Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Kip, Didn't take your comment poorly at all... just thought I would clarify in this textular world of non audible clues.....No need to apologize at all. Cheers SB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 this textular world of non audible clues I like that! Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Its one nice thing about Airbus; telephone handset at back of console for PA, no mistaking when you grab that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JL Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Watching the ARFF vehicles on the ASDE display is amazing. They got their quite quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyBlazer Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Chico, I didn't know that about the Bus..... is that the same way you would make any announcement? SB Oh and Thanks Mitch ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 On the Airbus you can make a PA to the cabin either through the handset on the quadrant or through the audio control panel. Unlike the rest of the transmitters on the ACP, you do not need to select the PA prior to keying the transmit switch for the microphone. You transmit over the PA by pressing and holding the PA button, making it easier to ensure that you are talking to the cabin. There's nothing wrong with the handset, but I can usually get to the ACP faster. I have noticed that the announcements made with the handset tend to be quieter than when using the ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 What J.O. says is true but for emergency PA's I reach for the handset since it doesn't require any ACP selection and therefore potential mis-selection but the choice is there of course. I just find the PA handset is an absolute and doesn't require the "finger-hitting-the-right-button-in-a-hectic-situation" thing. It is MUCH easier (IMHO) to make a transmission INTENDED for the PA, to ATC (or on interphone) with the Boeing ACP's. You will very rarely hear an intended PA on ATC coming from an Airbus since you have to push and hold down the PA button on the ACP. On the Boeing a selection of any other virtually identical button will result in a PA to the wrong destination (I'm not up on B777 but I assume its the same as 767). CC PS When making the emergency PA I am more concerned with accuracy than speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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