Guest The Clumsy Lover Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Not a good day for flying... Good job to the crew for bringing her home safely.. http://home.quicknet.nl/qn/prive/f.braaksma/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stone Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Yes it was a good job to bring her home safely. But what were they doing flying into a thunderstorm anyway? If I were a passenger I would certainly be &%$@! and want some answers of the flight crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Accidents can happen but, was the radar even turned on, what kind of training system does EJ have, does EJ have a "you'll go or we'll get someone who will" attitude and is pilot competance in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Clumsy Lover Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Easy to be an armchair quarterback when you weren't there. I highly doubt that they flew directly into the cell... Perhaps they were IMC while diverting around the cell and ran into the hail... who knows... Like Defcon says.. S@*t happens... Lots of variables... Bottom line the crew got her down safely under some very stressful conditions. There was a saying that I saw a few years ago.. more so applies to an incident but also relates to this.. We should all bear one thing in mind when we talk about a crew had an incident. They called upon the sum of all their knowledge and made a decision. They believed in it so strongly that they bet their lives on it. That they were mistaken is a tradgedy, not stupidity. Every supervisor and contemporary who ever spoke to them had an opportunity to influence their judgemnet. .... so a little bit of us all goes with every incident. CRM Clumsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Excellent reply! As side note: I wonder what speed they were at when they encountered the hail ( not implying anything, just trying to see what does what ) and Holy Sh#T! I bet the sound was deafening!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon The Loon Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 That's TWICE in a month for someone over here being caught in a hail bombardment. An A320 was pretty well written off here not that long ago - same story. Unwitting participants in a hail of hail. Without offending sensibilities, there's no excuse for this. Loss of the ship under these conditions is a very real possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ABC-S Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 Do you know of any pic's of the A320 in your post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MikePapaKilo Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 There are also a series of pictures of two USAF T-38's that met the same fate. Severe damage to both aerodynes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest doo Posted August 21, 2003 Share Posted August 21, 2003 The 320 was a 321, and it is back in service,only cosmetic dammage found after inspection, on another note is there a web site which covers radar interpitation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragon Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 excellent TCL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rob Assaf Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 "Wet" hail would have a great radar attenuation, "dry" hail would be virtually invisible on radar. Please, not to be throwing rocks at glass cockpits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AME Posted August 22, 2003 Share Posted August 22, 2003 From a couple of years ago http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=190207&WxsIERv=TG9ja2hlZWQgTC0xMDExLTM4NS0uLi4gVHJpU3RhciAuLi4%3D&WdsYXMg=QWlyIFRyYW5zYXQ%3D&QtODMg=THlvbnMgLSBTdC4gRXh1cGVyeSAoU2F0b2xhcykgKExZUyAvIExGTEwp&ERDLTkt=RnJhbmNl&ktODMp=U2VwdGVtYmVyIDYsIDIwMDE%3D&BP=0&WNEb25u=QlA%3D&xsIERvdWdsY=Qy1GVE5B&MgTUQtODMgKE=TDEwMTEgaGl0dGVkIGJ5IGEgQ0IhIQ%3D%3D&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=MTQ3OTg%3D&NEb25uZWxs=MjAwMS0wOS0yMg%3D%3D&static=yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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