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[dagger]

Well, pilot shortage or not, the fleet is expanding... again. I don;t see a retirement of aircraft associated with this addition of eight 737-8s. Note the word MAX has disappeared.

 

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/air-canada-to-receive-eight-boeing-737-8-aircraft-869135534.html

[FA@AC]

Does anyone have any snippets as to what AC is proposing to ALPA where Rouge is concerned?  The 319s are old, and I wonder if AC wants agreement from ALPA to send 737s over.

[Malcolm]

Air Canada to get eight Boeing 737 MAX jets from lessor BOC Aviation

 

(Reuters) - Air Canada said on Tuesday that it has agreed to receive eight Boeing 737 MAX 8 jets from lessor BOC Aviation.

The jets are scheduled for delivery in 2024 and will undergo required modifications before entering service next year.

The deal comes at a time when travel demand has remained robust across both domestic and international routes.

All eight aircraft, to be powered by CFM LEAP-1B engines, will initially operate with a single economy class layout until they are reconfigured.

(Reporting by Nathan Gomes in Bengaluru; Editing by Shailesh Kuber)

 

Related video: Boeing Buys Back 737 Max Supplier Spirit

[Turbofan]

On 7/2/2024 at 8:11 AM, dagger said:

Well, pilot shortage or not, the fleet is expanding... again. I don;t see a retirement of aircraft associated with this addition of eight 737-8s. Note the word MAX has disappeared.

 

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/air-canada-to-receive-eight-boeing-737-8-aircraft-869135534.html

I think this is just keeping up. A substantial portion of the A220 fleet is grounded due to the Pratt engine issues.  Although AC doesn’t have 320’s with the geared Pratt, 320 NEO’s with that engine order are also parked around the globe.

Some of these aircraft are to be so hastily put into service that they will be Lynx’s full economy configuration.

AC has been grabbing used 320’s on the market for the same reason.  We already have about three, maybe four, different configurations of 320 out there.  No J class to speak of.  No entertainment.  No WIFI.  Ex Air China and Virgin America interiors 

[Turbofan]

On 7/2/2024 at 8:38 AM, FA@AC said:

Does anyone have any snippets as to what AC is proposing to ALPA where Rouge is concerned?  The 319s are old, and I wonder if AC wants agreement from ALPA to send 737s over.

ALPA’s position is a single contract for everyone.  No more segregation.  They can paint anything whatever they choose.  It’s their airline to run.

The new flight duty time legislation erased the advantage of Rouge pilots working to CARS.  Even today Rouge runs under mainline wages and work rules because the Rouge WAWCON simply wouldn’t work.  Reserve isn’t an option.  It’s a must.

If you have access to the Pilots CBA.  Ask to see the Rouge start up MOA.  It’s on the IPAD.

Hear is a couple of lines.

AND WHEREAS the Company is investigating allowing Pilots to operate Mainline and ACrouge aircraft under a common Position when both Mainline and ACrouge operate the same aircraft type (“Common Aircraft”) (commonly known as “Left/Right down the jetway”);

c) No new aircraft type or variant may be added or operated under the ACrouge Operating Certificate without prior agreement

They could paint half the 737 fleet Rouge.  No one cares so long as it is one contract and one group.

How this would impact other groups I have no idea.