Guest manwest Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Interesting link...... http://www.jetblue.ca/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Someone at AC is using their head. Good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest manwest Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 No doubt there will be someone out there thinking Jet Blue is another AC Brand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Chances are they'll get this domain yanked once jetblue says something to the internet watchdogs. I've never liked this sort of thing on the web. It's legal until someone tells you to stop; but it blows. neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I don't get it. What blows about it? Seems to me like one of the most honest bits of sly-dog marketing I've seen. The domain wasn't owned, so evidently AC bought it. Now, anyone who makes the mistake of figuring Jetblue is a Canadian airline is promptly directed to a Canadian airline that would love their business. Doesn't seem underhanded to me. ....what am I missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAYDAY Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Purchasing a domain name for the sole purpose of misleading the public or hedging is illegal as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I don't know about "hedging", but there's nothing misleading there. Where you've been directed is right in front of your nose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Legal or illegal it is sneaky. And not, in my opinion, ethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Krikey, I'm missin' it??? Why is it sneaky? It's not as if they're pretending it's a Jetblue site... Where's the sneaky or misleading stuff in that?? It's not like anyone's going to have clicked on a button to go to Jetblue from some place and wind up there... They'd only find that little trick by typing in ca'>www.jetblue.ca in their address bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ECB Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 I'd hate to agree but you seem correct. Now they'd better get Southwest.ca, easyjet.ca, and of course virgin.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Maybe they're not seen as being worth it? Anyway, I think it's perfect. It's like saying, "dot CA eh? Ok, we'll show you a Canadian site... Here." Wasn't there some kind of alliance there at one time anyway? Or am I confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 This is being debated in some courts right now. In fact I read a small blip about a case involving a dot-net and dot-com with the same prefix name. I can't find it right now but am under the impression that the courts are not letting 'name thiefs' (or was it identity borrowers) use other company's names without their permission. Using Jetblue as an example, I think the jist of the argument is that Jetblue registered the name for its own use. Unless it allowed Air Canada to use it as a link to the AC website then the weblink is not proper. It may be good fun, but it is not right. PS. I'll see if I can find the article I glanced at the other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrick Bergen Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 The domain is owned by a Mr Wexler of a company called DomainsAtCost Corporation. This similar to when a company in the states had zip.com and directed it to westjet to try to sell the domain name. I would suggest Air Canada did not have anything to do with this. http://www.internic.ca/whois.asp?domain=jetblue.ca&wserver=whois.internic.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 You could be right, Patrick. It's difficult to imagine Air Canada hijacking a domain name like that. It would simply invite retaliation from JetBlue. There's all sorts of cybersquating exploits out there, and I've yet to hear of one that isn't parasitical. Nothing about this one makes me think otherwise. neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Mitch, I suspect that Patrick B. in a post below hit the mark. It's likely not Air Canada that has the domain, but some other company or individual. That entity then redirects all www.jetblue.ca hits to Air Canada. Why? Because then they say to the real JetBlue, "Wanna buy the domain name in Canada? If you don't, all those WWW enquiries go to Air Canada." Ethically speaking, it would be like me registering www.mitchcronin.org and redirecting all hits to some really disgusting porno site. Then I come to you and ask if you'd like to buy the domain. If you don't, then everytime someone queries your name, they may wind up being directed to the pernicious site. It's nothing more than cheap cyberblackmail. Hmm, come to think of it, have you registered your name yet? neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpperDeck Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 What amazes me is that anyone would think it "sound business practice" to appropriate another company's name for an improper purpose. If AC management is involved (which I doubt), I trust this re-direction will be corrected forthwith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Well... I was missing something! The .ca domain names are Canadain domain. If I were to, as I did last night, consider the notion of redirecting people to Canadian businesses when someone gets confused, asking for any-american-company.ca, and that was all it was about... I'd see some justice in that (albeit protectionist) redirection. However, throw in the 3rd party trying to score, and I see your point. Or even if it was the Canadian company trying to sell the .ca domain to the American company for profit, that too would seem wrong to me. I notice United has a Canadian company that owns United.ca. And I think that's how it has to be. If Jetblue wanted the site, jetblue.ca, they'd have to have a Canadian company. I have registered a .ca domain, and I believe the requirements are that you must either be a Canadian applying for non commercial use, or, if it's on behalf of a commercial enterprise, it must be a Canadian company. Anyway, thanks for filling me in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sam of Old Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrench Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 Did anyone complain when someone did it to ZIP???? If so, what good did it do?? Just to refresh your memory, in the begining days of Zip, www.zip.com was owned by someone else (in the USA I think). Air Canada would not come up with the cash so they changed their address to something that was not very logical. When they did that, the person that could not "extort" cash out of them for the ZIP site name, linked his site to the Westjet site. Dirty pool? Some say clever but some say dirty. People I talked to didn't seem to give a rat's __ __ s about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1pawn Posted October 5, 2003 Share Posted October 5, 2003 http://www.cronin.ca/mitch.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Hi wrench, I didn't hear about the situation with zip, or I forgot about it. To answer your question, yes of course it's dirty pool. There's nothing clever about it, whoever does it, whoever they do it to. Unless you think things like spam, browser hijackings, etc. are clever, too. It's a parasitical, lowbrow internet scam. They've had variations on it since just about day one. People don't care about things like this until it's their own ox that's gored. Then they're all over it like sh1t on a blanket. neo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lancaster Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 That's about the only way AC can get people on their aircraft nowdays, they have to force them on through illegitimate means! Sincerley; Lanc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lancaster Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 By the way.....just out of curiosity, where did they get the money from if in fact they bought the domain.....(loud laughter in the background!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CD Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest righthandman Posted October 6, 2003 Share Posted October 6, 2003 JetBlue has been advised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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