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Still one more 787 Delay

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mrlupin

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The link is dead.

Do ya think Boeing put pressure on them to pull it?

Boeing has so much riding on this aircraft that it has to be a success. It's a little scary when you think about it. The last thing needed would be a uncontrolled media assault on the plastic airplane. Stories of fire damage sure do not improve the image...

try this link for thumbnails of the images removed...

http://www.metacrawler.com/metacrawler/ws/results/Images/boeing%20787%20fire/2/0/0/Relevance/zoom=off/qi=19/qk=18/bepersistence=true/_iceUrlFlag=7?_IceUrl=true

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boestar

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While it may have "gone up big" the article did state that as soon as the source of ignition was removed the fire self extinguished which is exactly what is supposed to happen. While a failure caused the problem it also highlighted that there are things that work correctly.

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mrlupin

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I do not know if this latest fire incident is the only reason, but articles are popping up on a possibility of no 787 deliveries in 2011.

http://www.onlineamd.com/aerospace-manufacturing-design-Boeing-787-Dreamliner-112210.aspx

Boeing May Delay Dreamliner Entry Into Service to '12, Morgan Stanley Says

Boeing Co. may postpone the 787 Dreamliner’s entry into service for the seventh time, adding as much as a year to the three-year delay for the composite-plastic jet, Morgan Stanley said.

The plane may not be delivered to the first customer until 2012, because last week’s electrical fire during a flight test may prompt a redesign of software and hardware, Heidi Wood, a New York-based analyst with Morgan Stanley, wrote in a note today. She rates the shares “equal-weight.”

The 787 test fleet remains grounded for a ninth day as the investigation continues into the Nov. 9 fire. The Dreamliner is the first airliner built with carbon-fiber composites and uses an all-electric system to save fuel. It has been delayed six times from its original May 2008 target, as Boeing struggles with the new materials, parts shortages, redesign work and a greater reliance on suppliers.

Boeing can’t decide when flights will resume until it completes the investigation and assesses whether design changes are necessary, said Lori Gunter, a spokeswoman, reiterating comments made yesterday.

Boeing, based in Chicago, fell 28 cents to $62.50 at 4 p.m. in New York Stock Exchange composite trading. The shares have fallen 11 percent since the day before the fire, after having gained 30 percent this year through Nov. 8.

The company brought two of the six test jets back to its Seattle base yesterday, indicating that there’s not a quick fix, Wood said, adding that she doesn’t expect flights to resume until late December or early 2011. The jet that caught fire remains in Laredo, Texas, where it landed. Crews are replacing the power panel that failed and are still investigating the cause behind it, Boeing said yesterday.

Certification Tests

The 787 has been flying since December 2009 in tests toward certification for passenger service, which currently is targeted for the first quarter of 2011. The six planes fly around the world in search of various weather conditions for tests required by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration.

The issue appears “bigger than a simple, single component failure,” Wood wrote. “Redesign may be necessary and it looks like this affects at a minimum the test-flight airplanes, potentially the 28-odd planes already built.”

Boeing has been assembling Dreamliners at its factory in Everett, Washington, and storing them there in preparation for next year’s delivery start, once the FAA certifies the plane. With 847 advance orders, the $178 million, 250-seat Dreamliner is the company’s best-selling new jet.

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Zodiac says stray object may have caused 787 fire

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Zodiac-says-stray-object-may-rb-148534699.html?x=0&.v=1

On Tuesday November 23, 2010, 4:18 am EST

PARIS (Reuters) - Damage from a stray object is a possible cause of a fire on a Boeing (NYSE:BA - News) 787 Dreamliner test flight two weeks ago and should not lead to a significant slowdown in the supply chain, French group Zodiac Aerospace (Paris:AODC.PA - News) said.

Chief executive Olivier Zarrouati told analysts on Tuesday that, if confirmed, the identification of a loose object would limit the impact on Boeing and its suppliers.

"It is fairly reassuring if it was indeed a question of foreign object damage," he said, adding he saw no reason for Boeing to order a strong slowdown in production.

He did not comment directly on a report that blamed the fire on a short circuit caused by a tool mistakenly left in an electrical equipment cabinet on the plane.

La Tribune reported U.S. contractor Hamilton Sundstrand, a unit of United Technologies (NYSE:UTX - News) which works in partnership with Zodiac, was likely one of several manufacturers involved.

Zarrouati said the investigation was being led by Boeing, which was responsible for communicating officially on the causes and impact of the incident.

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