Kip Powick Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 CNN "reports" that 12 people have been shot and "killed" by some person with a rifle during a citizenship class in the Civic Association building in Binghamton New York.... Possible hostages still in building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 CNN "reports" that 12 people have been shot and "killed" by some person with a rifle during a citizenship class in the Civic Association building in Binghamton New York.... Possible hostages still in building. Keep in mind that guns don't kill people. People kill people. One day, the penny is going to drop for our good friends south of the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest woxof Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Keep in mind that guns don't kill people. People kill people. People with guns it would appear. Although if he was really, really good with a knife maybe he could have done the same over a much longer period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Hard to understand , but a google of "Mass Killings" shows that this type of insane behavior is not limited to just the US of A. It seems to be in the nature of some of the "human beast" However a google re the US yielded some interesting / disturbing results A glance at U.S. mass shootings in recent years -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- at 19:35 on April 3, 2009, EDT. By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS A gunman walked into an immigration services centre in downtown Binghamton, N.Y. on Friday, killing 13 people and wounding at least four before apparently committing suicide. Here is a glance at some of the worst U.S. mass shootings in recent years: - -March 29, 2009: Robert Stewart, 45, shot and killed eight people at Pinelake Health and Rehab in Carthage, N.C. before a police officer shot him and ended the rampage. -March 29, 2009: Devan Kalathat, 42, shot and killed his two children and three other relatives, then killed himself in an upscale neighbourhood of Santa Clara, Calif. Kalathat's wife was critically injured. -March 21, 2009: Lovelle Mixon, 26, shot and killed four Oakland, Calif., police officers after a traffic stop. Mixon was killed in a shootout with SWAT officers. -March 10, 2009: Michael McLendon, 28, killed 10 people - including his mother, four other relatives, and the wife and child of a local sheriff's deputy - across two rural Alabama counties. He then killed himself. -Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide. -Dec. 5, 2007: Robert A. Hawkins, 19, opened fire with a rifle at a Von Maur store in an Omaha, Neb., mall, killing eight people before taking his own life. Five more people were wounded, two critically. -April 16, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, fatally shot 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, then killed himself in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history. -Oct. 2, 2006: Charles Carl Roberts IV, 32, shot to death five girls at West Nickel Mines Amish School in Pennsylvania, then killed himself. -March 21, 2005: Student Jeffrey Weise, 16, killed nine people, including his grandfather and his grandfather's companion at home. Also included were five fellow students, a teacher and a security guard at Red Lake High School in Red Lake, Minn. He then killed himself. Seven students were wounded. -March 12, 2005: Terry Ratzmann, 44, gunned down members of his congregation as they worshipped at the Brookfield Sheraton in Brookfield, Wisconsin, slaying seven and wounding four before killing himself. -March 5, 2001: Charles (Andy) Williams, 15, killed two fellow students and wounded 13 others at Santana High School in Santee, Calif. -Nov. 2, 1999: Copier repairman Byran Uyesugi, 40, fatally shoots seven people at Xerox Corp. in Honolulu. He is convicted and sentenced to life in prison. -July 29, 1999: Former day trader Mark Barton, 44, killed nine people in shootings at two Atlanta brokerage offices, then killed himself. -April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, opened fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before killing themselves in the school's library. -May 21, 1998: Two teenagers were killed and more than 20 people hurt when Kip Kinkel, 17, opened fire at a high school in Springfield, Ore., after killing his parents. -March 24, 1998: Andrew Golden, 11, and Mitchell Johnson, 13, killed four girls and a teacher at a Jonesboro, Ark., middle school. Ten others were wounded in the shooting. -Oct. 16, 1991: A deadly shooting rampage took place in Killeen, Texas, as George Hennard opened fire at a Luby's Cafeteria, killing 23 people before taking his own life. Twenty others were wounded in the attack. -June 18, 1990: James Edward Pough shoots people at random in a General Motors Acceptance Corp. office in Jacksonville, Fla., killing 10 and wounding four, before killing himself. -July 12, 1976: Edward Charles Allaway, a custodian in the library of California State University, Fullerton, fatally shot seven fellow employees and wounded two others. -Aug. 20, 1986: Pat Sherrill, 44, a postal worker who was about to be fired, shoots 14 people at a post office in Edmond, Okla. He then kills himself. -July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty, an out-of-work security guard, kills 21 people in a McDonald's restaurant in San Ysidro, Calif. A police sharpshooter kills Huberty. -May 4, 1970: Four Kent State University students were killed by Ohio National Guard troops during a campus protest of the invasion of Cambodia. Nine people were wounded. -Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman opened fire from the clock tower at the University of Texas at Austin, killing 16 people and wounding 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thebean Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 The mayor told ABC that the gunman “had lost a job recently and was somewhat angry.” There's your understatement of the year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B75/76 Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 The mayor told ABC that the gunman “had lost a job recently and was somewhat angry.” There's your understatement of the year.... No doubt. I shudder to think what 'really angry' would be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 No doubt. I shudder to think what 'really angry' would be like. Said with hopefully appropriate sarcasm... It's a good thing Americans hate Obama and want more guns Three Officers Slain in Pittsburgh Iceman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Said with hopefully appropriate sarcasm... It's a good thing Americans hate Obama and want more guns Three Officers Slain in Pittsburgh Iceman Americans just don't trust their Government's and want the capability to overthrow them should the need arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Americans just don't trust their Government's and want the capability to overthrow them should the need arise. I think Americans simply don't trust the ability of the government to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and because of this want the means to defend themselves if attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Americans just don't trust their Government's and want the capability to overthrow them should the need arise. You give them too much credit. The average NRA supporter doesn't trust their own neighbours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rattler Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 Perhaps but if we are going to ban things that have the potential to kill, then we should start with tobacco and then guns. Tobacco related deaths continue to out number those caused by firearms by a wide margin and when you take into account tobacco related deaths caused by passive smoking, tobacco still kills more people than guns. Sooooo •in Canada, 30,230 men and 17,351 women, including 55 boys and 41 girls under the age of 1, died as a result of active and passive smoking in 1998. •the total of 47,581 deaths includes 1,107 Canadians who died from either lung cancer or ischemic heart disease attributed to exposure to second-hand smoke (environmental tobacco smoke). •of the total 47,581 smoking-attributable 1998 deaths in Canada, 16,394 occurred in Ontario, 13,295 in Quebec, 7,593 in the Prairies, 5,730 in British Columbia and 4,569 in the Atlantic region. •this represents an increase of 9,224 deaths since 1989, with females accounting for 6,531 of these increased deaths. The increase in female mortality is divided among cancers (2,452), cardiovascular diseases (1,646), and respiratory diseases (2,283). •in 1998, the top causes of adult smoking-related deaths are lung cancer (13,951 deaths), ischemic heart disease (9,289 deaths) and chronic airways obstruction (6,457 deaths). •cigarette smoking, the primary risk factor for the top three causes of death, was estimated to be responsible for 22% of all deaths (27% of all male deaths and 17% of all female deaths) in 1998. Firearm Deaths In Canada •From 1970 to 1996, approximately 37,399 individuals died or were killed as a result of gun shot wounds. This accounts for an average of 1,385 deaths per year over 27 years. •Between 1970 and 1996, 14% of all firearm-related deaths involved homicides. •Between 1987 and 1996, there were approximately 183 firearm homicides per year. •From 1987 to 1996, four percent of firearm-related deaths involve accidents. Every year, a small proportion of firearms deaths (2%) can be attributed to legal intervention (e.g., police shooting of an offender) or undetermined firearm deaths. •Approximately 32% of all homicides involved firearms over the last ten years (1988-1996). Twenty-nine percent involved stabbing, 20% beating, 11% strangulation and the remaining 7% involved other methods (e.g., fire, poisoning). •Between 1987 and 1996, 79% of all firearm-related deaths were suicides. During this period, approximately 28% of all suicides involved firearms, or an average of 1,030 firearm suicides per year. •Between 1989 and 1996, the average annual rate of firearm deaths in all of Canada is 4.5 per 100,000. The Northwest Territories (18.5 per 100,000) reported the highest rate while the Yukon (11.8 per 100,000) and New Brunswick (7.2 per 100,000) reported the second and third highest rate of firearm deaths overall, respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canus Chinookus Posted April 5, 2009 Share Posted April 5, 2009 vehicles kill more people than guns... maybe we should ban them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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