Passenger counts dropped by more than 50% when the Covid testing requirement went into affect.  AC and others should just park them all for a month.

12 hours ago, conehead said:

I thought most airlines, including Air Canada, had already settled with Boeing over this?

that number includes monies already paid out.  Of course there could have been an outside deal with AC.

Thats a 727 not an F-18

Cleared for the visual, your discretion.

3 hours ago, J.O. said:

Say what? You just agreed with me. Please read what I sad again.

In order to obtain the license, the applicant must meet the conditions of issuance. If they meet those conditions, the government cannot deny them the licence. IOW, they met the conditions, they have a right to obtain the certificate. There is case precedent for this.

Agreed however it is not a right under the charter.  the charter grants you freedom of MOVEMENT and TRAVEL.  No mode is specified.  The purpose is to say that you have the right to go anywhere in canada without restriction.  HOW you get there is on you and the privilege of gaining the required certificates and licences are NOT guaranteed under the charter.

If cannot grasp the operation of an automobile you will not be allowed to operate one LEGALLY.  Same for other modes of transportation.  Airline Tariffs essentially say thanks for buying a ticket, we may or may not get you there.  There is case president for that too.

Any Private carrier of any mode of transportation has the right to refuse carriage to anyone for cause.  Too Drunk...Not Flying.  Rights only extend to a point.  when you have a right you also have a responsibility.

17 hours ago, J.O. said:

One thing I learned during my time in government is that if a citizen meets the conditions of issuance for any authorization or document, the government is duly bound to issue it. This is foundational to our system of government and there is no discretion, no matter what the MTO website might suggest. That means that as long as you qualify, you cannot be denied the certificate. That’s as close to being a “right” as one can get in this area. 

Well I retain the right under authorization of the MTO to DENY you a Drivers License because you fail to meet the criteria set out by the MTO.  If it were a RIGHT I would not have that ability.

23 hours ago, UpperDeck said:

Boestar...I'm not trying to "one up" but a "privilege" is something enjoyed by an individual or group denied to others.

The ability to operate a motorized vehicle on public roadways is enabled by licence.

There are limited grounds upon which a licence can be rescinded or denied. In the absence of proof otherwise, a person is ENTITLED ( has a right) to insist upon issuance and that right will be enforced.

That License is bestowed upon you by the government.  They can revoke that license at any time for cause.

In Ontario it is spelled out right in the Drivers Handbook

"DRIVING IS A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT"

Just ask anyone who has lost their license for DUI, Stunting, Vehicular Manslaughter, or even just speeding.  The PRIVILEGE is REVOKED.

23 hours ago, UpperDeck said:

Driving is a "privilege". Really?

Yes.  It is a privilege granted by the province which can be revoked at any time for cause.  It is not a right.

You have the right to freedome oof travel.  nowhere in the charter does that define a "Mode" of travel.  Wanna Travel? WALK.

Driving is a PRIVLEDGE not a right

Air Travel is a PRIVLEDGE extended by a PRIVATE operator and not a right.

Travel by BOAT (unless privately owned) is a PRIVLEDGE extended by a PRIVATE operator and not a right.

Walking, Jogging, Running, Cycling etc are all within your RIGHTS to freedom of travel.

Does anyone actually ever read the back of the ticket where it says (paraphrase) you buy the ticket, we decide whether you travel?

On 12/25/2020 at 8:33 PM, Malcolm said:

It will be interesting to see how many more storage problems arise but if the press reports on all, then the public acceptance of the return of the Max will wane. I image there is a comprehensive check list when an aircraft is returned to service that has been stored in high temps. before it is deemed to be be airworthy.  I wonder what was missed is this case or was it checked off on the ground run up and only became a problem when the aircraft was moving at full power on take off?  I imagine  one of the AMEs on this forum could comment

there are a series of checks that are carried out weekly during long term storage.  The Storage facility at Pinal is well versed in the process since they store many operational aircraft for dozens of airlines.

A hydraulic failure from the left engine could be anything and may not have shown an issue at all during the release from storage inspection and engine runs.  Thats how mechanical failures work.  An aircraft can be released from a routine A check and have an issue on the next flight even if the failed system was never touched.

you cannot blame the storage for this issue.

not the first time I have see an incident like this, be it pilot or AME at the wheel.

Simple.  If the government imposes it, the government pays for it

AC finished the day yesterday at 23.69.  considering all the available shares at $24 thats not bad.

10% drop from open to close with a market flooded with shares 10% lower than the trading price is pretty much an expected result.

8 hours ago, dagger said:

The feds are going to green-light the changes to the Max tomorrow (Thursday) and allow Canadian airlines to resume flying it.

flying it where exactly?  not really short on airframes at the moment

Just waiting for it... 

If one of these things crashes for ANY reason, Say goodbye to Boeing.

I will give it some time (was it 28 days???) for the vaccine to truly be tested in the wild before I consider partaking.

True side effects cannot be known in such a short trial period.  especially for a vaccine using RNA to do the job.

I will take the $10 fee for the hospital....It costs $20 now.... Parking.

you cannot outrun physics

4 hours ago, deicer said:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34840801/sodramjet-engine-hypersonic-flight-test/

and now to build an airframe that can handle it.

5 hours ago, Airband said:

Hell, yeah. Polio? Smallpox? - just a damn con job!

Ever see a drug commercial on TV?  Most of the time the complications are worse than the initial problem.

Drugs are not always the answer

well they can just skip over me.  Not putting a rushed, barely tested vaccine in my arm when the companies that produce it have ZERO liability should something go wrong.  The track record isn't exactly spectacular.

2 hours ago, Kasey said:

Ok.... so how do you vaccinate 5.775 billion people 

one at a time

13 hours ago, Malcolm said:

Coronavirus: How do you vaccinate 7.7 billion people? Coronavirus: How do you vaccinate 7.7 billion people?     What happens once a coronavirus vaccine is approved? Kalipso Chalkidou, director of global health policy at the Center for Global Development and Nicole Hassoun, an ethicist at Binghamton University in the US, discuss five challenges we'll need to overcome to vaccinate billions of people around the world. Hear more from Prof Chalkidou on BBC Health Check and Prof Hassoun on BBC Science in Action.

you dont  you vaccinate 75% of them

As I said before...  The 737 MAX will be the safest aircraft in the sky when it starts flying again.  It HAS to be.

If another one crashes, it will bankrupt Boeing and the FAA will lose all credibility.  I do not think anyone wants that to happen.

On 11/26/2020 at 4:50 PM, JL said:

5000 psi hydraulics may help.

its the tearing off of the doors or lack thereof that impresses me.

5 hours ago, deicer said:

Supersonic bomb drop from F-35.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/11/25/supersonic-f-35-nuclear-bomb-test-orig-vstan-bdk.cnn

it is impressive that they can open the bay doors above mach 1