Kip Powick Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Toronto Star Article Boeing Considers New 747 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Classic Boeing... Wait until the competition is almost ready to fly before even contemplating a response. But don't do anything until they are beating you over the head with your own leg that they just ripped off. Most of Airbuses success can be attributed to Boeing sitting on it's ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 It's hard to finance major projects like the 747A without Government support. Unlike Airbus, Boeing is on their own. I hope they finally decide on building this one as I'm sure Cathay would be a customer and I would be one happy pilot to fly it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 major government support? What do you call the Pentagon paying 3x list price for 767's? Or billion dollar subsudies for experimental defense systems that will never get beyond the PowerPoint stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I call that a $500 hammer. It's happens all the time to Governments of many nations but it's still not a Government bail-out like Airbus gets. That's the only reason airbus can afford to give those things away. I'm just glad I won't have to fly a 15+ year old plastic Airbus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 So where can I get a free airbus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steam Driven Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 " I'm just glad I won't have to fly a 15+ year old plastic Airbus." I'd rather fly the 15 year old "plastic" Airbus than the 30 year old Boeing I am now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 So where can I get a free airbus? Airbus invested 10 Billion USD on the 380. I have heard pricing to be around 270 Million USD. If they can attain a 10% profit margin, they will have to sell about 370 aircraft to break even. Boeing predicted the market to be about 500 aircraft in the category and they said it wasn't worth it. Do you really think Airbus will make a penny with the 380? Hey Steam, I might agree with you but I would rather fly a newer Boeing 747. Two years ago I flew a almost new (less than 300 hours) B747-400F and it smelled wonderful! Flew nice too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Unless the likes of David Miller and his contemporaries around the world are round up and shot, yes the A380 will be very sucessful because airports around the world aren't getting any bigger. London Heathrow needs another runway, it isn't going to happen because half a million little David Millers have built their careers on fighting a third Runway. Existing airports will have to accomodate more pax without increasing their geographic footprint. That means larger planes. There is no market for second city/second city service, nobody wants that. what people want is second city/first city service, and the first cities are already having trouble coping with todays traffic, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handyman Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 Your right and the tax payers of France and other EU countries will be paying for it. No wonder Boeing won't play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steam Driven Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 "Hey Steam, I might agree with you but I would rather fly a newer Boeing 747. Two years ago I flew a almost new (less than 300 hours) B747-400F and it smelled wonderful! Flew nice too!" I flew brand new, fresh from the factory A320's in Hong Kong and I'll get my chance at a brand new 737-700/800 this fall. It'll be nice to see for myself the Boeing Vs. Airbus in the end. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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