Mitch Cronin Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 From the blurb: "...CUPE alleged wage discrimination against the predominately female flight attendants as compared to two predominantly male employee groups - first and second officers (pilots) and mechanics. The effect of this decision is that the Canadian Human Rights Commission can now proceed with its investigation, and determine whether wage discrimination actually exists." Apparently these silly girls have no idea what "mechanics" are paid. I have no problem at all with adjusting their hourly rate to ours. Better still, adjust ours to equal theirs! Good grief! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazionic Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Shhhhh, Mitch maybe we'll get a pay increase! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest directlaw Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 My understanding is that CUPE won an appeal of a decision a while back. That decision said the flight attendants did not work in the same "establishment" so their equity fight ended right there. Now they have had that decision reversed. The decision now says that they do work in the same "establishment" so they can now proceed.....that is it. Pam and the media have really blown this out of proportion. Pay equity has a long way to go through the courts yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FRO Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Another example of political correctness gone wrong, if you applied for a job as a FA then you knew what the pay rate was, if you want to be paid as a mechanic or pilot etc then work in that profession. Simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GDR Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 >>these silly girls <<< Mitch, Mitch, Mitch You just may be hearing from cpfa on this one. Boy am I glad I'm not in your shoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Me too. I recommend thick rubber soles for when the lightning strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp fa Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Nonsense. I think the Big Announcement was poorly timed, self-aggrandizing, and of little consequence. I don't think "silly" is too strong a word at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WA777 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Just more insane lunacy from Pam Sachs and her friends....how has this girl managed to avoid impeachment...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 Ok, I see she's responded just below here... I haven't read it yet... I'll don the rubber boots and hang on to my chair... Damn this is almost exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 Whew... GDR and Neo had me bracing there... I shoulda known you were too smart for that silliness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp fa Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 What fun though! I had no idea the three of you were so easily intimidated. Please don't think for a minute that I won't use that against you in future discussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 Uh oh... ...Errr... uuuhhh, Intimidated? Me? No way lady! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbi Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Are we seriously wasting bandwith on this subject??? Guys and gals, get a grip, this is b******t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 "Silly" is a strong enough word that some people would gladly cast Mitch into the Pit of Fire for uttering it. Naturally, AEF is a different story. Here, one reads forthright and balanced views and responses of equal wisdom. Your own post is a fine example, an astute observation honed to a rapier-like edge. I expect you'll be cast into the Pit along with Mitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neo Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Intimidated!? Such humiliation! When it's safe to come out of the bombshelter, the three of us are going to give you a piece of our minds. If that's OK with you, I mean. If it's not, that's OK too. We could just pretend that you heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GDR Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Life on the edge!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amejazz Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 well said fro. oh btw kma !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozerboy Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I think that all of the RJ FOs and the AMEs should file a pay equity claim, I am sure that most of them would dream of making the same wage as an incharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FRO Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I will have to take a number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amejazz Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 ha ha hey are you doing the toronto gig or are you still tipping cows?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest victor Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 IMHO AMEs should be paid proportionate to their responsibility, which means that they would be better paid than Captains. When an AME signs his name, he is taking on the personal responsibility for certifying that the aircraft is safe for flight. If he is signing off on work that was done in a C-Check, then he is certifying that the aircraft is safe to fly for say 4,000 hours and maybe 4,000 flights. How many passengers are risking their lives depending on his work? A quarter of a million? Half a million? On the other hand, a Captain is only responsible for the safety of his aircraft for one flight. AMEs are under-rated. We should have the highest expectations of their integrity, professionalism and good judgement, and they should be paid accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest givemeabreak Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Victor, Sure I could go with that, if, IF... you are checked every 6 months and have the jeopardy of losing your career if not satisfactory. Also, if something goes wrong (and maintenance to blame) the Captain/First Officer have can seriously "go after you" for it as they had to deal with the danger in the air. Your mistake on the ground and no one gets hurt. It has consequences in the air. Go down this road.... what do car wrenchers make to an maintenance engineer, and what do they get to write off during taxes that and engineer does not, etc? Now that comparison is ludicrous!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FRO Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Didn't feel like going all the way to TO for a 4x4 shift, left it to the guys on layoff. The 7x7 is way better for travelling and I don't feel any worse doing it as opposed to the old 4x4 plus the 7 off is hard to beat. If I ever get called back to YVR it is going to be weird doing 4 days on instead of the 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest amejazz Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 Rumor is 10 guys very shortly (RJ courses coming to YVR), and the rest by years end, when they expect us to be flying 15 of the s**tboxes! CAT 1 Rumour from the mouth of a lingcod!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Posted March 26, 2004 Share Posted March 26, 2004 The AC f/a's love her! Go figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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