Kip Powick Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Subject: Carbon Tax - Not Political but Informative Are we getting taxed a lot - probably. Do we know where the taxes are going? Probably NOT! Carbon Tax Politicians have, in the past, used that old phrase of 'cutting taxes' to get you to vote for them. Now, Stephan Dionne, has come up with a new wrinkle on that old lie: Tax your heating oil and tax anything else you burn, tax everything else that you have always had in your life but, he will lower your income taxes. CONSIDER THIS from a one person who has bothered to do the homework: When a politician's lips move, I know he's probably lying. Mr. Dion says his carbon tax will be revenue neutral. So, I went online and found a carbon calculator and keyed in the annual energy consumption for our household and learned we produce 17 tons of greenhouse gas. Fully 60% of this usage is for electricity which we use to heat our home. I have already improved insulation in my walls and replaced my windows and doors; use the new 'twirley' lights and ensured that my appliances are all Energy Star products. In the past 20 years, these measures reduced my electricity usage from 24,000 Kw Hrs per year, to 16,000 Kw Hrs per year last year. What is my reward for this improved efficiency? My power bill is unchanged from what it was 20 years ago. But, my power bill would attract a carbon tax of $104 in year one of Mr. Dion's plan, and $416 in year four. My power bill would rise from $166 per month, to $210 per month in year four. Since I live on a fixed income consisting of CPP and Old Age Security, my income tax bill runs at less than $200 per year. So, for my household, Mr. Dion's revenue neutral' carbon tax will cost me $416 per year less income tax reductions of about $10 per year. Revenue neutral? In a pig's eye! This is a tax on seniors, living on fixed incomes. Well, Mr. Dion, you haven't got a snowball's chance in hell of ever getting my vote. I hope everyone else takes five minutes to run the same calculations that I did, and vote to send this joker to the political boneyard. Jon C. Coates - 70 Ridgevalley Rd. - Halifax, N.S. - B3P 2J9 Factual data substantiating this: 16.96 tons 60% of this is for electricity or 10.4 tons/year @ $10/ton in year 1 = $104 or $9/mo @ $20/ton in year 2 = $208 or $18/mo @ $30/ton in year 3 = $312 or $27/mo @ $40/ton in year 4 = $416 or $40/mo = Income tax paid is $110/yr. *DON'T BUY INTO THE CARBON TAX ! STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY? Not one of these taxes below existed 100 years ago, & our nation was one of the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had a large middleclass, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. Accounts Receivable Tax Airline surcharge tax* Airline Fuel Tax * Airport Maintenance Tax * Building Permit Tax Cigarette Tax Corporate Income Tax* Death Tax Dog License Tax Drivng Permit Tax * Excise Taxes Federal Income Tax Federal Unemployment (UI)* Fishing License Tax Food License Tax Gasoline Tax ( too much per litre) Gross Receipts Tax Health Tax * Hunting License Tax Hydro Tax * Inheritance Tax * Interest Tax Liquor Tax Luxury Taxes Marriage License Tax Medicare Tax * Mortgage Tax Personal Income Tax Property Tax* Poverty Tax * Prescription Drug Tax * Property Tax Provincial Income Tax * Real Estate Tax Recreational Vehicle Tax * Retail Sales Tax * Service Charge Tax School Tax Telephone Federal Tax Telephone Federal, Provincial and Local Surcharge Taxes Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax Vehicle License Registration Tax Vehicle Sales Tax Water Tax * Watercraft Registration Tax Well Permit Tax Workers Compensation Tax What in the hell happened? Can you spell 'politicians?' And I still have to 'press 1' for English!?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chockalicious Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Interesting post Kip. I assume that this a forwarded e-mail you have posted. It seems someone is attributing more to Mr Coates than what he said. Here his letter: When a politician’s lips move, I know he’s probably lying. Mr. Dion says his carbon tax will be revenue neutral. So, I went online and found a carbon calculator and keyed in the annual energy consumption for our household and learned we produce 17 toms of greenhouse gas. Fully 60% of this usage is for electricity which we use to heat our home. I have already improved insulation in my walls and replaced my windows and doors; use the new “twirley” lights and ensured that my appliances are all Energy Star products. In the past 20 years, these measures reduced my electricity usage from 24,000 KW hours per year to 16,000 KW hours per year last year. What is my reward for this improved efficiency? My power bill is unchanged from what it was 20 years ago. But, my power bill would attract a carbon tax of $104 in year one of Mr. Dion’s plan and $416 in year four. My power bill would rise from $166 per month to $210 per month in year four. Since I live on a fixed income consisting of CCP and Old Age Security, my income tax bill runs at less than $200 per year. So, for my household, Mr. Dion’s revenue neutral carbon tax will cost me $416 per year, less income tax reductions of about $10 per year. Revenue neutral? In a pig’s eye! This is a tax on seniors living on fixed incomes. Well, Mr. Dion, you haven’t got a snowball’s chance in hell of ever getting my vote. I hope everyone else takes five minutes to run the same calculations I did and vote to send this joker to the political bone yard. Jon C. Coates The rest of your post is typical baloney harking for the good old days that never were. Let's go back 100 years like the person in your posting wants to (courtesy of the google) The average life expectancy was 47 Years. Five leading causes of death were: 1. Pneumonia and influenza 2. Tuberculosis 3. Diarrhea 4. Heart disease 5. Stroke Not to mention women could not vote, race relations were not exactly great and we were on the verge of 2 world wars...yeah things were so much better. Gotta press 1 for English? Too damn bad, grow up and deal with it (the person who wrote it and the sentiment beind it - not you personally) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEFCON Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 "yeah things were so much better." Meanwhile, inspite of all our progress, TB's been replaced by Cancer, we do pay taxes a tiny bit longer, race relations remain a mess and we're involved in so many conflicts, the whole game is at risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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