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So, will it be the CFM Leap, or the PW geared turbo fan? Any bets?

Rumour has it they were air-taxiing at the time. Apparently, that fleet has experienced some problems with the tail rotors..

It's always 5:00 somewhere.

Seize it, sell it, and send the proceeds to Ukraine.

Just checked on Flightradar, it’s still showing on the ground in YYZ.

At this moment, there is a Russian registered Antonov loading up at Vista cargo in YYZ. Any thoughts on whether it will allowed to depart?

I hope the **bleep** does some jail time.

Ottawa close to removing pre-arrival COVID-19 test for fully vaccinated Canadian travellers: sources https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/pcr-test-travel-canada-1.6347334

Thanks. I think it’s silly though, one shouldn’t require a decoder to understand critical information such as weather conditions. I’m serious.

Why are those things written in secret code? Why not in plain English?

I saw this guy play in a little pub in Guelph, years ago now. Was pretty good!

Oh yes, never forget that howl!

Wow… how old are you?

I’m shocked.

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/passengers-arrive-in-montreal-following-plane-party-controversy-involving-quebec-influencers-1.5728981 Passengers arrive in Montreal following plane party controversy involving Quebec influencers About a dozen passengers managed to arrive in Montreal Wednesday night from Mexico after video footage of their flight down south on Dec. 30 showed Quebec social media influencers and reality TV stars partying maskless, vaping, and drinking in the aisles on board a Sunwing Airlines plane. It was a scramble for many of them as multiple Canadian airlines said they refused to let them board their planes to return home after the controversial chartered flight made headlines around the world — and even drew some harsh words from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. Media reports said at least one of the passengers from an Air Canada flight Wednesday night was handcuffed by border agents soon after arrival at the Montreal-Trudeau airport. Other passengers refused to answer any questions from journalists who were waiting for them outside the terminal. They were able to board the flight despite Air Canada releasing a statement earlier in the day that said it would block the passengers involved from boarding its planes. The flag carrier said in a statement that, “With the information we currently have regarding the events that took place on the Sunwing flight, and to the extent that we can identify the passengers who were part of the group, Air Canada is denying boarding to ensure the safety of other passengers and its crew.” Sunwing was the first airline to publicly say it will not let the “unruly” group of passengers board their planes after cancelling their return flight home, alleging in a statement sent to CTV News that the group “did not accept all of the terms” and conditions the airline said were necessary “to ensure the safety of the crew and passengers.” Each person was left to try to book his or her own ticket home after their trip was scheduled to end on Wednesday. Later Wednesday morning, Air Transat followed suit and vowed to not board the people seen in the videos as they try to head back home from their holiday in the popular sunset resort town of Tulum, Mexico. Air Transat wrote on Twitter Wednesday that some members of the group tried to buy tickets with the airline, but are being denied. The airline said “the safety of both our passengers and crew” is their “top priority.” PASSENGER ON FLIGHT TESTS POSITIVE IN MEXICO Several of the people on the Dec. 30 flight were headed to Mexico for a New Year's Eve holiday and posted videos of themselves partying and drinking alcohol inside the plane. At least one of the passengers on that flight says she has tested positive for COVID-19 and worries there could be about dozens of more positive cases among the group. An emotional Rebecca St. Pierre, 19, from Trois-Rivières, Que., told The Canadian Press that she is now stranded in Tulum and believes the organizer, James William Awad, has "simply abandoned everyone." Awad said in a tweet that he intends to make a statement Thursday morning to address the situation. Meanwhile, St. Pierre said she doesn't know how she's going to pay for her hotel room where she has remained in isolation since testing positive on Wednesday. She won the trip in a contest on Instagram and while she was looking forward to a week of "mindfulness" it has now turned into a troubling and expensive ordeal. The videos floating on social media painted an accurate picture of what actually happened on the flight, according to St. Pierre, who acknowledged that there was no social distancing and believed some of the passengers were taking drugs. On Wednesday, screenshots of messages exchanged between the passengers suggested that some were told to place Vaseline in their noses prior to their return flight home in an attempt to thwart COVID-19 testing. St. Pierre told The Canadian Press that some passengers, in fact, did this. 'A SLAP IN THE FACE' The airline trouble for the passengers comes after Prime Minister Justin Trudeau condemned their behaviour on Wednesday, saying what they did on the plane was “completely irresponsible” and a “slap in the face” for those respecting public health guidelines. The plane party is also the subject of at least two investigations -- one by Sunwing and the other by Transport Canada for possible violations of Canadian Aviation Regulations, which could bring fines of up to $5,000 per violation for the passengers. Sunwing has said it would cooperate with the federal government in its investigation, which is also looking into non-compliance with COVID-19 measures. Meanwhile, some of the 150 social media celebrities stranded in Mexico say the were unfairly blamed for the plane party. One of them, Isabelle Labrecque, told her followers in an Instagram Live video that "we were sleeping" and "we don't want to be bashed for things that we didn't do." She also said "a minority" of the passengers were partying, while most were well-behaved. With files from The Canadian Press and CTV's Selena Ross.

V1 Rotate….. rotate?

I’m afraid you are correct.

That’s why they were unable to.

That was pretty cool. I hope it went into a paint shop afterwards?

Thanks deicer. I was looking for this on AvHerald, couldn’t find it.

Sounds pretty wild! Hero pilots keep ‘out of control’ plane from crashing for 5 hours, saving 200 passengers Hero pilots battled to keep an “out of control” plane from crashing for five hours, saving the aircraft’s 200 passengers. The terrifying incident happened in Russia when the Airbus A321 – with 201 onboard including 25 children -plunged into a sudden dive soon after takeoff. The pilots were forced to fly the plane across Siberia as they were only able to perform an emergency landing after a five-and-a-half-hour nightmare. The captain issued a Mayday call soon after takeoff and failed twice with emergency landings at departure airport Magadan. The aircraft swayed and rolled, its fuselage severely caked in ice, and the lights flashed on and off reports claim. The autopilot shut down and there was an onboard electronics failure. According to reports, the captain was unable to jettison fuel to attempt a safe emergency landing. Instead, he flew on, over mountain ranges, towards the next nearest airport – Yakutsk, the world’s coldest city. Meanwhile, panicking passengers “screamed and prayed,” with one woman telling how she hugged her husband as they said goodbye convinced they would die. Passenger Stanislav Kuimov said: “Five minutes after takeoff, the plane began to lose altitude sharply. “We were thrown down and up. “First pressed into the seats, then there was almost zero gravity. “The rattle of the wings, the crackle of the fuselage, the noise of the wind, the roar of engines, bags falling from the luggage racks – horror.” ‘SCREAMING AND PRAYING’ Another passenger said: “A strong rattling began, the plane rolled from side to side. “Then the nose went down sharply, and we plunged at speed. “People screamed and began to pray, no one understood anything. “My husband and I hugged each other, saying goodbye.” After almost an hour, the plane stabilized but it took three hours before the pilots reached 32,000 feet cruising altitude. The crew rejected a landing in freezing Yakutsk, where the temperature was -30C. They flew on to Irkutsk, where it was -1C and made a successful emergency landing to loud applause from the passengers. The low-level flying in the first three hours of the flight meant the aircraft did not have sufficient fuel to reach its final destination, Novosibirsk. S7 airline – a major Russian carrier that is part of the same ‘Oneworld’ alliance as British Airways – said that on takeoff the plane had “got into a zone of severe icing, which led to the disconnection of the autopilot.” The terrified passengers were offered drinks and food, and onward flights on other planes. Law enforcement have impounded the Airbus and officers are carrying out checks amid suspicions the deicing spray used in Magadan was faulty. HERO PILOTS The captain issued a Mayday call, reported Readovka, while one source said: “The crew announced a loss of control and the decision to return to the airport of departure, Magadan. “But they could not descend and land.” A video from flight radar shows the plane circling around Magadan as it sought to make an emergency landing soon after takeoff – before gaining altitude and flying on. There are claims that a counterfeit de-icing spray was used on the aircraft, leading to the freeze-up soon after takeoff, reported Readovka. Magadan mayor Yury Grishan praised the “high professionalism, courage and composure” of the crew during the emergency. “Your prompt actions prevented the tragedy and saved the lives of more than 200 passengers,” he said. Both the Russian Investigative Committee for Transport and Baikal-Angarsk Transport Prosecutor’s Office are probing the horror flight. https://nypost.com/2021/12/03/hero-pilots-keep-out-of-control-plane-from-crashing-for-5-hours/

Omicron = Moronic!