Bottom line....we've lost our way. Too many experts opining on issues they know little about; too many politicians reluctant to admit their ignorance and impotence; too many armchair QB's who "know it all".

All I recognize is repeated references to "numbers of cases" but no reference to how many of those are asymptomatic.

Can't we go back to those days when we were told that 55% of the population was immune to infection and 35% or more would experience mild to moderate symptoms. We went into lockdown to protect the remaining 10%.

Now we have vaccines....and Canada tells returning vaccinated snowbirds that proof of vaccination is irrelevant.

Does anybpdy have a clue?

A longggggg time ago, "we" collectively agreed that if we put all covid-free persons in a confined area and let no one in or out, those confined persons would remain Covid-free.

However....that virgin territory would be ripe to infection upon one breach; one infected individual has a completely virgin crop.

Alternatively, a relatively open community has a "blend" of individuals...infected and transmissive; immune; infected and non-transmissive. The introduction of that same "communicator" has less impact since the person may come into limited if any contact with a "receptive" audience.

Florida has seen very few restrictions; personal protection depends more on the committment of the individual to remain virus-free. Everywhere you go, you encounter people who have absolutely no concern.

And life ( and death) goes on and millions get vaccinated and hundreds of thousands of doses go unused due to a lack of interest.

Florida does not inhibit your ability to protect yourself; stay home; get essentials delivered; etc etc. Personal freedom. But....should you choose to accept some risk...wear a mask and don't attend large gatherings. Or get vaccinated.

Ontario says....you MUST stay at home; you have no alternatives....we don't have enough doses of vaccine...sorry.

And so it goes.

Holy cow!! Is this all news to you guys? If you enter Canada by air from anywhere ourside Canada, you are required to 1) produce a 72 hour negative PCR; 2) submit to a test at the airport; 3) proceed to a pre-paid quarantine hotel ( minimum 3 days); 4) await the result of your arrival pcr test; 5) if positive, proceed to your place of quarantine for the remainder of the 14 day quarantine period; 6) do another pcr test on day 10. Note....you pay for the 3 day minimum hotel even if your test results are available after 1 night.

If you enter Canada by car from the US, the only difference from the above regimen is that you are not required to stay in a hotel to await the results of your arrival test. You STILL submit to 3 tests all of which must of course be negative. And...as has been noted, unless driving your own vehicle to the land crossing, you have to pay ( through the nose!!) for transportation into Canada from an airport near the border.

Trust me....it's not a "walk in the park".

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/man-who-spent-1-500-to-stay-at-toronto-quarantine-hotel-says-he-got-covid-19-anyways-infected-whole-family-1.5384113

So...you can spend $x to legally ( note to Kargo....compying with all laws and regulations does NOT constitute pursuing a "loophole") re-enter Canada safely or pay 3x as much to be put at risk.

What manner of people enable this idiocy? Never mind...I think I know the answer.

9 hours ago, Kargokings said:

maybe because I am not a "Snow Bird" who maintains residents in both countries......

Also of course: Coronavirus Update (Live): 136,241,302 Cases and 2,941,838 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

 

no COUNT OF CURRENT CASES SHOWN FOR CANADA

I have no objection to the movement of traffic mostly represented by the transportation industry and "essential" workers but do question any need for vacation travel. 

 I suspect you are on other hand are in favour for your own personal reasons.  

Apparently, you are reuctant to engage in critical analysis which requires some degree of objectivity.

Maintaining residences in two or more countries simply evidences one's financial means or frugality or a fortutious selection of parents but certainly does not indicate an absence of concern with the physical health of others. Did you think it did?

You apparently don't understand that I have in fact participated in cross-border travel since the Canada-US border was "closed" and I have adapted as necessary to the environment in which I exist....much like this Covid virus.

The issue for discussion....one which you avoid...is whether current restrictions to cross-border traffic in fact enhance public health; do they demonstrably inhibit the transfer of the virus to innocent, stay-at-home Canadians?

As rhetorically asked above, would similar restrictions upon domestic travel be as or more effective? If so....why has the government not imposed those restrictions?

Would country-specific restrictions be effective? Should Canada restrict travel originating in India, for example?

Personally, I believe that I am much safer where I reside in the US than I would be in many places in Canada.

Leaving that aside....I do not hesitate to acknowledge that I am almost daily engaged in a personal debate on which approach to the Covid virus is most efficient from a social, economical and medical perspective...and wherein lies the balance.

Should John Doe have the right to dine in at a restaurant; does he have the right to make an informed decision?

Can Mary object to the exercise of that freedom given Mary's ability to isolate and protect herself from John?

Are we primarily concerned that John's acceptance of the risk and the realization of same might over-burden our health care system? If that is the motivator, then ipso fact, as a society, we should prohibit or regulate all activity that carries a risk that collectively we believe to be economically unacceptable.

Kargo....THAT is what I mean by critical analysis.

Too easy by far to accuse you of finger-pointing at cross-border travellers because you don't have the same mobility.

10 hours ago, Kargokings said:

Not embarrassing as far as I am concerned. Cross border traffic is something that we do not want or need right now.  

Take a moment and reflect upon your numerous posts on this subject and ask why you have taken such an immutable position.

As has been reported, there is currently a very significant amount of cross-border traffic mostly represented by the transportation industry and "essential" workers.

There is sparse evidence that these travellers are carriers /spreaders of the virus. The balance of traffic consists of persons required to produce evidence that they are not infected and are required to quarantine.

Please explain how you are more at risk from these individuals than from your friends down the road whose social/work borders are within the confines of Ontario.

Please tell me how fully vaccinated "snowbirds" who comply with all of the requirements imposed upon returning Canadians place you at risk.

I previously posted that it is a known and indisputable fact that almost every DEL/ YYZ flight carries Covid positive pax. It is suspected that their pre-flight PCR tests are bogus.

NZ arrived at the same conclusion noting that of 26 positive cases arriving by air from ALL locations, 17 were from India. They have closed the border to persons coming to NZ from India for two weeks, regardless of citzenry.

There are, of course, resulting cries of rascism.

But...at least...one can point to extrinsic evidence to support the prejudice. Can you?

10 hours ago, J.O. said:

So all he needs to do is bamboozle a smaller neighbour into giving up their own pharmaceutical industry in exchange for a free trade deal, then we can all live high on the hog. 

Trudeau has hardly been a shining star over the past year but it wasn't his government who sold our pharmaceutical independence down the road to get a deal. We're all paying the price for that mistake even though it's more than a 1/4 century old, because not unexpectedly, most countries (including the USA) are prioritizing their own citizens first and we get their leftovers. Lucky you to have slipped past that one.

JO...

You know better. Two parties negotiating and one does better than the other.....let's not blame that on "size". Competence might be more appropriate.

To be clear...I didn't " slip past" anything. I was qualified to receive the vaccine in the US....and availed myself of the opportunity.

And then there was my re-entry to Canada at a land border crossing.

Keep in mind that Canada required that I obtain a PCR test within 72 hours of my arrival. I obtained a test at Fll and had my results within 24 hours.

Upon entry and production of my negative PCR, I was directed to an area with a few tents where I was to be tested anew. My driver was exempt.

There were 8/9 people at the tents; there to assist me with the provision of a sample for testing and to give me a 2nd test kit for self-testing 10 days later.

There was one vehicle ahead of ours upon arrival. We began the process ( my wife and I) and just before completion, 25 minutes later....the next vehicle arrived.

So...call it 8 people to attend to the "needs" of 4 incoming residents in about 45 minutes. The lady on my side of the vehicle was from Barrie...staying at government expense at a nearby hotel. I believe her compatriots were from other areas in the Province.

My incoming test was conducted at Fll. There were perhaps 5 people working. I was in and out in 5 minutes. There was not much of a " rush" but the flow was fairly constant. As stated, I had my results within 24 hours.

So....how much are "we" paying for this elaborate and useless scheme by our government to convince Canadians that they are being protected from the scourge?

I failed to mention that as I sat in the vehicle at this tented enclosure, I watched truck after truck pass by....their drivers all exempt.

When...please tell me...will Canadians let their collective voices be heard and tell Trudeau; "Enough!!"

Ontario made ABC's Nightly News with talk of a 3rd surge. The Province speaks of a 6 week lock-down and to date, the grand total of 6.9% of Canada's population has been vaccinated.

Trudeau tumpets his concern for the well-being of Canadians and makes it government policy..."Stay Home"!! In my County, that means to lock oneself in their house because venturing out is fraught with risk.

Hotel quarantines have done what for who? The viral spread in my County has absolutely NOTHING to do with international ( including US) travel.

Stay home for my safety? The US has been efficient enough to vaccinate my wife and myself...and has administered more doses than more than the entire population of Canada!!

Think about that. Stay home, Canadians!!

Justin....get on a plane and figure out how they do it in the US....and follow its lead!!

The vaccine doses I received were at "events" arranged by the State using an "Events" provider. The proceedings were incredibly well-organized and efficient...I arrived 30 minutes early and was out 45 minutes after arrival. I have nothing but praise to offer.

I extend my sincere appreciation to our neighbours to the south.

15 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

I agree on one point...yes, suicides matter  however  and it is a big however, there is little society can do about it and the reason  for one doing the act is as variable as the means in which they do it.....such is life. 

To prevent suicide is more the responsibility of those that are close to individual contemplating the act. They would be the first to see the signs of a pending case and we as a society certainly  can't put all the cases into one category, ((Done due COVID))

Basically the same can be said about alcoholics and druggies.

Anyhow, I don't want to get into a urinating contest over what has happened, what should have happened, and what is happening. It is a mess but we as a society have to bear some of the burden,

Exiting  stage left 

 

This remark and the earlier statement that suicide is "a permanent solution to a temporary problem" is what should occasion outrage. The total absence of empathy is beyond understanding and beggars the imagination for adequate wording of condemnation.

I suspect most parents would have at least a glimmer of appreciation of the lifelong emotional distress resulting from the loss of a child at his or her own hands.

Few if any can begin to imagine the absolute darkness of the abyss confronting a child suffering the relentless agony of mental illness where ultimately the only conceivable end to the suffering is death.

From my heart....Kip Powick....shame on you.

11 hours ago, Kip Powick said:

Not an OP-ED...just my opinion.....

V-E-N-T-I-N-G…….I am truly amazed at the whining and indignation that is being espoused by so many people concerning travel for whatever reason, and IMO there are NO valid reasons for travel by Canadians, to or from anywhere, during this pandemic, in fact if travel had been fully curtailed  shortly after January 2020, this country may have escaped the pandemic altogether but nooooooo, the spineless Feds along with a massive movement of “I have my rights” whiners curtailed draconian anti-travel  measures that should have been implemented.

Decisions about travel were made by those that felt it would be “unfair” and outside the sphere of our rights as Canadians to impose such restrictions.

Time for a reality check……..this pandemic is not just a flu bug on a long leash vacationing across our country, it is a deadly disease that knows no boundaries and has become almost impossible to stop because  we, “Carl and Connie Canuck” , did not want any “inconveniences” cast upon our  rights that many feel can NEVER be imposed upon.

The subject here is TRAVEL during a Pandemic and had the FEDS instituted stronger measures back in the Spring of 2020 we probably wouldn’t have to be wearing masks at this time  in this country.

Here is my dream list of what should have happened……

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01 February 2020

It is announced that 15 February 2020 :

ALL travel, by any means into and out of  Canada shall cease

All inter provincial travel shall cease

The only business that may remain open are grocery stores, pharmacies, and Service Stations

First Responders, Police, Fire,Medical and Military will be exempt from all regulations

Masks shall be worn at all times when outside of one’s residence and in all other buildings/services. Two meter social distancing is imposed and no more than six persons may congregate at one time.

Failure to abide by these Canada wide regulations will result in fines starting at $2000.00 for first offence and doubling for each offence there after.

These COVID regulations will be reassessed in 30 days. 

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Yes, I know it may seem pointless for many but this narrative is about  where we are and where we could be , if someone had the authority and the guts to get “ real” instead of worrying about their political future every time they opened their mouth.

And finally, do you think banning all travel, as indicated above, would have meant that the great  life, as we know it in this country, would be doomed forever ???

If you do, then read a little history concerning what citizens in  this country personalty sacrificed, besides over 100,000 lives, during WW 1 and WW 2 .

 

 

This will not come as a surprise but in my opinion....you don't have a clue and it is unfortunate that others are reluctant to call out your uninformed rant.

Repeatedly you post opinions on various subjects and when any suggestion of an attempt at correction is offered, your reponse is ALWAYS defensive with no evidence of 2nd thought or introspection.

You do not stand alone. We ALL make mistakes; we ALL are subject to correction. The fault is in failing to acknowledge the possibility.

You fail to appreciate that travel per se is not a unique cause of transmission of the virus. Like many others, you appear to believe variants ( so-called) are imported. You are wrong.

You seemingly fail to appreciate that commerce is a vehicle of transmission but commerce cannot rationally be terminated without economic devastation.

You question the assertion of rights much like the prosecutor who rhetorically asks " If he had nothing to hide, why didn't he just answer the question?" You don't apparently understand the meaning and significance of the rights others fought so vigorously to affirm.

You characterize "travellers" as whiners who supposedly are over-indulged. You apparently fail to understand or appreciate that for some, travel is a necessity and for others, a move to a place of sanctuary. Not all are drunken revellers on a sun-drenched beach.

I hope that by reason of the efforts and committments of thousands of others who believe that social interaction and the immersion in foreign cultures is essential....you will again get to scuba dive "somewhere in the Caribbean".

23 hours ago, FA@AC said:

The 3 flights from Haiti that arrived in Canada with all pax deemed infected probably informed the government's making of the new policy.  You're making government's point for them.

Haiti isn't a country from which we import labour under the Seasonal Agricultural Worker Program.

Those same flights did not require negative test results because the lab facilities were not available.

The government's policies are not driven by a reasonable application of scientific opinion but by perception and the fear of an "adverse reaction".

8 hours ago, Kargokings said:

Published Friday, February 19, 2021 12:27PM EST

Mandatory hotel quarantine rates far lower than $2,000 touted by government | CTV News

Please note....seasonal migrant workers are exempt.

Please note....seasonal migrant workers last Spring were noted as a significant source of transmission. And may I add....3 AirTransat flights from  Haiti recently arrived in YUL with ALL pax deemed infected!!

Only in Canada, you say.

One or more of you can help me with numbers and percentages:

The GTAA reports in 2020 total transborder/int'll arriving and departing pax was 208,000. Assume 50% arriving= 104,000 or 8600 per month or 289 per day. That number is lower in 2021.

If 2.7% of travellers ... that's ALL travellers but let's just blame int'll/transborder....are infected that equals 8 people arriving in Toronto on average per day with Covid. BUT...that was before pre-arrival PCR testing.

Ontario is now reporting about 1700 cases per day but just assume over the month of January there were 2000 averaged per day. If 2.7% of all cases in Ontario were attributed to travellers that would be approximately 50 pax per day. Since we "know" 8 of those came from outside Canada then 42 were domestic travellers.

Houston....we have a problem!

NEXT....if there ARE an average of some 300 arrivals/day the proposed hotel quarantine rules would require 1000 rooms. Hey! If I'm paying $2000. I want my OWN room. I'm not sharing with my significant other!!

At 200 rooms per facility...that requires 5 hotels to sign on to "the plan". Are there that many "No tell motels" near the airport? Lol

to go to our property and empty our fridge of the persishables we bought in anticipation of quarantine.

3 minutes ago, Kargokings said:

It seems that a lot but not most are not driven by the instinct for self-preservation but rather by their belief that they are somehow special and immune.  So those misguided folks become infected and then spread the virus to the rest of us, unless somehow prevented from doing so or made to observe basic precautions.  You only have to take a look at the increase in infection / deaths of those under 50 to confirm that

Changing Age Distribution of the COVID-19 Pandemic — United States, May–August 2020 | MMWR (cdc.gov)

You miss...or choose to ignore...my point.

First of all....most current air travellers are smarter than the average bear so as a group...they pose less risk. But there always a few that walk amongst us and you can protect yourself against them if so motivated by adhering to the clean; mask; distance protocol. Do that in your own best interests!! Don't rely upon others to " save" you.

When I approach an intersection in my vehicle....I always assume the other guy is going to screw up. Same when boating.

My wife and I go for a walk. We wear our masks. When someone approaches us on the sidewalk...we move off!! Overkill? Maybe but we are doing that which we mutually believe will mitigate our risk.

If the government persists in this hotel quarantine madness..I'll remain in Florida...to lessen my risk. And damn...I'll have to get someone 

1 hour ago, Kip Powick said:

09 January 2021....

With over 39,100 tests completed the positivity rate for the province sits at 9.7 per cent. 

03 February 2021....

Ontario's network of labs completed 52,418 tests for the virus and recorded a test positivity rate of 3.3 per cent. The positivity rate has been trending downward in the weeks following a provincewide lockdown order that began on Dec. 26. 

It's all driving me crazy!!

Could we please start with the assumption that MOST are driven by the instinct for self-preservation. You don't WANT to get infected and die.

Each of us....most of us....have the ability to take steps to mitigate our risk.

The percentage of the population who cannot due to physical or mental frailty require the assistance of government.

A recent assessment established that the majority of air travellers today are well-educated; older; and, above the norm in household income.

They do NOT need the government's help.

So....are "we" trying to protect the traveller or the persons with whom the traveller comes into contact upon returning home?

Presumably....the "others". Who are they and why were they unable to protect themselves? Didn't they want to wear a mask or maintain social distance?

I believe we ought to be encouraged to take responsibility for our own actions.

Note....how much do ankle bracelets cost for monitoring purposes?

2 minutes ago, J.O. said:

Those who chose to travel at this time were rolling the dice with odds stacked heavily against them. It was the equivalent of driving into an ice storm that's been forecast for 3 months and doing it on slick summer tires. Sorry, but I have a hard time being sympathetic.

I'm not sure where you're getting that. There was, I believe, a shared belief in Oct./Nov. that the introduction of one or more vaccines was imminent and that we were close to turning the corner. Air Canada recalled cabin crew and we began to contemplate a return to a semblance of normalcy by early summer. The vaccines arrived....in many countries... and is being distributed. 

There was a surge at the end of December but that had been previously experienced with few Chicken Little squacks and the numbers indicate another levelling.

All that I know is that "our country 'tis of thee" failed to anticipate and act and is well behind the curve.

Florida is leading the way...right after West Virginia!!....in distributing and administering the vaccine.

I am on the appointment list and confirmed my eligibility. I am reasonably confident I will have both shots by the end of March. I would like to come home occasionally but I will forego the pleasure....and risk.

Things may change but one should plan based upon the known facts; contingency planning based upon the unknown is akin to pulling out the old "eight ball".....or visiting a seer.

Just now, Kargokings said:

Or just maybe, tales of the woe faced by folks who despite  of the travel warnings / cautions, travelled anyway and now have to face the cost of doing so???? I shed no tears for them, tough **bleep** ....

Are you joking? I honestly hope so . Have you given ANY thought to those who left Canada and did so accepting the rules then in place and now find the goal posts have been moved?

I just read that 41% of all " big-box" stores in Ontario are NOT incompliance with virus-spread avoidance rules.

So...how many customers pass through each store's doors each day....1000 minimum? And how many such stores are there...50?

I suspect the totals far exceed the number of air travellers on airlines that ARE complying with mitigation guidelines.

I cannot say that I am surprised by those who suggest that our "rights" should not prevail over the "greater good". The same argument is made by "profilers" and I acknowledge that I have to be reminded of the adage; " Better 10 guilty persons go free than one innocent person be convicted."

The Charter of Rights exists for very good reasons. If nothing else, it acts as a restraint against those who honestly believe that the suppression of rights can serve a greater good.

I do not hold myself out as a Charter expert.

However....no Act ( or regulation) of Parliament or the Legislatures can abridge the Charter rights without invoking the " notwithstanding clause".  That provision is only available with respect to s.2 rights and those enumerated in section 7-15.

In short...the right of citizens to mobility (s.6) cannot be abrogated even if the Parliament attempted to invoke the notwithstanding clause.

The Quarantine Act permits of certain rules and regulations. Any regulation now proposed by the government would be subject to the Charter.

It would be difficult to establish that the denial of " liberty"; the "arbitrary detention" of citizens; and restriction on mobility was demonstrably justifiable in a free and democratic society.

This "plan" to detain returning citizens in hotels at their own expense is ill-conceived BUT...since I don't believe ALL bureaucrats and elected reps are stupid, I reiterate my belief that this is a psychological ploy to inhibit vacation travel.

3 hours ago, boestar said:

No.  that is the 3 day cost including your room service and private security to prevent you from bolting.

At what point do people say;. "Just a second. That's punitive!"

Boestar...I ASSUMED they MUST mean the 14 day cost. I couldn't project how anyone...even government bureaucrats....could calculate $2000 per person for 3 days. I suspected the intention was to scare "March-breakers" into shelving travel plans.

A hotel costs $100/day. Add the test at $100/person and food at $50/person. That's $800.....for two people!! Add administrative costs of $100/day. Clearly, $2000 per person for 3 days is not "cost recovery"!

This is crazy.

And will the government impose this cost ONLY on travellers who departed Canada after notice of this new "rule" or will it apply to those who left in November without any notice other than "we recommend against travel".

That's akin to enacting a criminal law and imposing it retroactively.

And what of the "free" quarantine hotels now made available to persons without suitable quarantine facilities?

I stocked up my fridge/freezer in anticipation of quarantine. At this rate, I'll get in line here for vaccination and extend my health coverage and get someone to clean out the fridge.

Meanwhile...back in Ontario where the PM wants me to remain....my buddy ( who I've had NO personal contact with for months) carries on his business building homes; meeting with realtors and tradesmen etc daily.....no masks.

I have no doubt....there are better and more targeted ways to mitigate the risk.

11 minutes ago, Airband said:

Obviously even more draconian measures are required to stomp out the scourge of the remaining 2.4% travel related sources...

The esteemed PM acknowledges that travel accounts for a very small percentage of transmissions; "...but even 1 is more than zero." Brilliant!!

$2000. for 3 days quarantine? I don't think so. Throw around large numbers to scare would-be travellers. That amount may be the cost of a 14 day hotel all-inclusive stay. Does Uber Eats deliver alcohol?

My personal issue is my belief that I am at greater risk...much greater...quarantined in an hotel rather that on my "estate" (lol).

This mad dash to protect Canadians is because of the "variants"....virus mutations. We have the UK; the Brazilian ( used to be a sexy description!); and the SA.

There is evidence of these variants discovered with NIL evidence of any travel or traveller contact.

So here's a question.....any realization amongst the cogniscenti that mutations occur based on location and "host type"? Enough cases, and Canadians could have their very own "variant". We MAY have the UK or Brazilian variants not by reason of importation but because of locally "bred" mutations.

And all of these travel restrictions will be proven to be "much ado about nothing".

10 hours ago, Turbofan said:

Discourage travel.  Doug Ford sees YYZ as petri dish.

The problem with the Alberta program is that it facilitates travel.  Even had a reciprocal deal in Hawaii to enable safe travel.  It was supported by the Alberta government until travel shaming started.

Now the program is a pariah.

In my opinion, the "problem" isn't travel per se; it's what one does upon arrival!!

If "vacationing" the determinant is where and with whom.

If returning home, the same is true. You can't "quarantine" if your household is shared and if it isn't stocked with necessities.

I suggest it is (as it always is) all about enforcement. You get a few recalcitrants and put them in jail for a week and publicize the fact....you'll see more compliance. Right now....the undertaking to quarantine is meaningless; online daily check-in...the "no symptoms"  option is highlighted..done! I got one automated call and one "live" call. Both on my cell. Me?? I was home but how many others saw technology as an easy way to dance around restrictions?

Deicer....please don't use that story in support of a "stay at home" regime!

The lady reported; " We're always ill for a week or so after going south." Sure.

Then more than two weeks after arrival, they realize they are uninsured....five days before the insurance they arranged kicks in. Sure.

I agree that they probably exported the virus to the US and should count themselves lucky survivors.

If however they arrived Covid free and thereafter exercised all reasonable precautions....all I can say is...Sure.

16 hours ago, Kargokings said:

There is of course a very open question, if the 14 day hotel stay becomes reality, who pays for it and of course are the hotels set up to enforce the quarantine or ??????

The repeated assertion is that the cost of the hotel quarantine is to be paid by the traveller.

I noted that the NDP leader is quoted as demanding closure of the border to non-essential travel.

Apparently no one has much respect for Charter rights or the necessity of "demonstrably justifying" an infringement.

I wonder whether there has been any thought given to the limitation of certain mobility rights to Citizens. They do NOT extend to landed immigrants or other classes of non-citizen residents.

Personally, my health risk would be significantly magnified were I to be compelled to quarantine in a hotel for 14 days rather than at my home.

Methinks they're shooting from the lip....trying to distract from their collective failure to secure vaccines for Canadians. And to cover up failures to adequately plan for and enforce the pre-entry virus testing program.

In Sarnia, Ontario there was a Covid outbreak and a death attributed to a freighter that docked last fall for repairs. The City is now raving about the economic boom of 11 ships coming in for work.....and not one word about testing the crew for covid!!

Ontario is "bragging" about conducting 23,000  Covid tests. Does that include tests obtained and paid for by travellers...at $200 a pop? And meanwhile, yesterday Michigan reported conducting more than double the tests ....and a PCR test in Michigan runs around $75.00