Guest b52er Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Is there really anything for AC types to worry about or is it all posturing. After all, Collenette is going to make sure AC survives. That's what he openly stated yesterday. So whats the big worry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 You don't know a) whether he means it what he means by it c) what it might be contingent on If I were AC employees, I wouldn't look to the feds as benevolent. The last time they intervened, post Sept 11, they removed job security guarantees. Seems most likely they would do it again with the collective agreements. Force Majeure is a beautiful thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ah crap Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 I'd like to see the contingent. Post 9/11 before the feds walked away from helping AC with any money was AC's refusal to open it's books when Joe Clark asked them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 Joe Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipped Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 What are you talking about? My job security guarantees were not removed post Sept 11th. Force majeure or no force majeure. Neither I or the employees at AC should be intimatated by what Milton says or even what DAGGER says. The Company will survive as Collinette has stated, so again, don't panic this will be a campagne and the unions know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jetblast Posted March 23, 2003 Share Posted March 23, 2003 What dagger is talking about is the two year no layoff guarantees that EVERY employee had as a condition of the CAIL acquisition that was to expire at the end of March of 2002. Some of us know intimately that those conditions were waved in October 2001. Just because it didn't happen to you then doesn't mean it can't, or won't, happen to you tomorrow. In perhaps what is the biggest understatement of the year, these are critical times for every Air Canada employee, non-union or unionized. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Actually, I was going further than that. The federal cabonet has the authority to declare force majeure on federally regulated companies and stripmine their labor agreements. The feds could well do what the unions won't do - lift the layoff protection. That would be much more popular with the public than handing AC cash. So I have to consider it a very real possibility. The CAW received a legal opinion that the government could indeed do it. If this war lasts another week or so, you should expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GDR Posted March 24, 2003 Share Posted March 24, 2003 Maybe instead of worrying about contract wording we should be concerned about getting this company back on its feet financially. Just maybe, and I agree it would be a long shot, if all the unions and management were to work together we might just save those jobs, or at least some of them. The more likely outcome is that we will continue on the way we are now, in a state of denial, until we wind up losing a lot more jobs. Greg Robinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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