Guest Airbus33 Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Does anyone have any info on when ACPA will release the details of the new agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest propwash Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 The basic details are now available on the ACPA web site, 'Members' area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest erialx Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 There should be no secrets amonst us forum users. So just cut the BS and lets have the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PortTack Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Basically, we both remain with guns to our respective heads. Scope not 'officially' resolved. I assume a mediator will solve it. Maybe, just maybe, we should resolve it ourselves. If ACPA would only return that call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillyBigToe Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 For one thing, scope stands at 55 seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin J Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillyBigToe Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Yes, straight from the MEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goggles Posted June 1, 2003 Share Posted June 1, 2003 Scope means nothing anymore. In the event the company plans to purchase aircraft that have 56-110 seats, they will advise ACPA, ALPA and Jazz, who will determine amongst themselves who gets to fly what. So scope means that Jazz is guaranteed 55 seats or less, and anything more than 55 up to 110 is up in the air. Some victory. If the original RJ's had gone to Jazz in the first place (aircraft nobody wanted to fly given the rock bottom seniority on it), we wouldn't be in this mess. Goggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillyBigToe Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 Victory??, there is NO victory in any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillyBigToe Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 "Scope means nothing anymore". "So scope means that Jazz is guaranteed 55 seats or less..." Hmmmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Goggles Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 "Some victory" is a sarcastic way of saying that there's no victory, contrary to what some others are saying/boasting. I find it hard to understand the acpa president proclaiming that the 55 seat scope clause is still in effect, and in the same breath, say that btw, we have to bid for the aircraft with 56-110 seats. What makes him so sure that ACPA will get those aircraft? Goggles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest not4amin8 Posted June 2, 2003 Share Posted June 2, 2003 You know who is going to get the 56-110 seat aircraft? Here is a hint: '>src=' alt='photo_green_ziptail.gif'>'>src='> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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