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Jazz operating in the East only?!


Guest Fitzgerald

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There are a few buyers for Jazz that have made it clear they only want part of the operation. Deluce Holdings looks like they have the cash cow sector (YUL-YOW-YTZ) side of the operation. The remaining non-profitable Quebec-Maritime and whatever is left of western ops is going to go to current 3rd Tier airlines. In other words the rumour of a newly fragmented Jazz is not untrue. This is the only way AC is able get rid of Jazz in a timely fashion. SEAT BELTS: ON!!!!!!

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Those are probably the least of the concerns for the new buyers. If the unions can't sort out their fragementation policy or merger policy then the CIRB will deal with it. Business is business and i'm sure the new owners will taylor their deal accordingly.

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Guest Nigol

Does this mean the latest equipment bid is going to be cancelled again? There are probably a lot of upper canadians who will want to bid back to upper canada and westerners who want to go back to big sky country. They might get stuck at an unprofitable T3 carrier.

This is one f@#$ed up place to be at. Oh ALPA where are you now? Please help...if you can!!

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Guest ah crap

That's seems to be the most popular of the rumors and it's always interesting to see the reactions from the different departments in this "shotgun wedding" company.
The best thing that can ever happen to us is to get rid of the Halifax management. They may have done alright running Air Nova but from a maintenance point of view, it's going to take a lot of elbow grease to get our central planes back to Air Ontario standards. For example, we used to have very good engines but now boroscopes are seldomly called up and when they are, it seems the engines all have catergory 4 damage. That's freaking bad! We wouldn't let a category 3 engine fly at GX but now, one engine was upgraded from cat 4 to cat 5. Instead of replacing the engine, Halifax sends the plane to London for a second opinion. Not satisfied, they send it to Montreal to "confirm cat 5 vane damage"
You guys have to work this same equipment. My opinion only.

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I wonder how long it will be now before we have an article in the Star about our maintenance procedures.

I can sympathize with your concerns but really don't think that we should be posting specifics like you did.

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Guest floatrr

Are your sources reliable? If that was the intent of the ACJ management, YOU would be the last one to know. From past experience if it was the intention of management to dissolve, dismantle or file for bankruptcy protection, the last to know would be any employees.

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Guest floatrr

Have you raised these concerns with your supervisor? I assume so. Since this is a public forum, maybe you should elaborate on what is actually safe. I'm no engineer but I would be willing to bet that a category 4 or 5 would be on the watch list and as soon as the engine reached a point it would be brought off line right? So what point are you really trying to make?

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Guest ah crap

Point well taken. I'll remove my post...tomorrow :)
Floatrr's point was very good too. We try to keep our equipment in top shape but the barriers we are faced with are unbelievable at times. The memo from one of our Dash 8 fleet specialists that told us letting a plane stay in service with worn out brakes is perfectly fine but if you look at it now you have to replace it. Not to worry, Transport Canada was handed a copy of this memo.
I am perfectly aware that this public forum is read by media folks and the company alike. I'm not trying to raise the eyebrows of the Star but if I can relate a bit of info. In the maintenance department we have a privately owned technical website, password protected that allows us to share from one end of the country to another. We can stay ahead of the game this way but we are the only departemnt involved. We cannot find out the views of the other areas to share. There is nothing wrong with our maintenance procedures. We are as ACA engineers tasked with releaseing only serviceable aircraft. That is a requirement of our license and it comes before the company, always has, always will. The problems are at the management level not ours.

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The memo from one of our Dash 8 fleet specialists that told us letting a plane stay in service with worn out brakes is perfectly fine but if you look at it now you have to replace it. Not to worry, Transport Canada was handed a copy of this memo.

TMI for the public domain. Don't let your frustration get the better of you!!!

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:) Not to worry. I don't let much of anything frustrate me. The problem with computers none of you can see the smile on my face as I type.
I did delete my 2 other posts due to stickle's comment that we could be reading the Star and find an article on our maintenance procedures.
There is to some extent a variance in maintenance procedures but no planes are flying that shouldn't be. Our jobs are to make sure the aircraft we release into service are fit and safe to fly and in full compliance of all applicable standards of airworthiness. That is a Transport Canada requirement and nothing the company could ever suggest to any of us would ever change or over ride that.

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This string has me hooked and spooked.Turbo fluid must be running in my veins, I've been reading off and on all morning.Can't leave this job at the hangar on my nights off! Wife is working kids are at school house a mess the sun is shining outside (tshirt weather in yvr)and I need a new idea for supper help...

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Hey got your supper taken care of. Frozen lasagna from M&M's :)
Wife just arrived in Timmins and I'm alone with a flubug so the house can stay a mess for the week...
Cheers

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Guest PortTack

The Adam's award screws me directly; however I support it. There's bad and good in it for everyone.

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Well they better be the greatest of the 'new buyres ' concerns.


What you have propogated (as in an irresponsible, malicious bit of crew room gossip) if infact he case, would infact cause more union/legal/CIRB wrangling than has been seen to date in the entire sad history of the AC family.

I would recommend everyone delte you from their 'read list'

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Seniority and employement rights better be the greatest of the 'new buyes ' concerns.


What you have propogated (as in an irresponsible, malicious bit of crew room gossip) if infact he case, would infact cause more union/legal/CIRB wrangling than has been seen to date in the entire sad history of the AC family.

I would recommend everyone delete you from their 'read list'

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Seniority and employement rights better be the greatest of the 'new buyer's ' concerns.


What you have propogated, (as in an irresponsible, malicious bit of crew room gossip) if infact he case, would infact cause more union/legal/CIRB wrangling than has been seen to date in the entire sad history of the AC family. More than enough of a deterent for any person rational or not to prevent your little dream.

I would recommend everyone delete you from their 'read list'

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