Guest Qtip Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 I take my hat off to all West Jet personal for believing in there company and doing whatever it takes to stay in the game.Those personal at Air Canada should take note or they won't be in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Panama Jack Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 Well there is an OVERSIMPLIFIED solution to Air Canada's problem. Kinda like saying if Westjet people believed in their company twice as much, and would do twice as much to stay in the game, the Company would be twice the success story it is now. Or if JetGo cracked the whip even harder on it's employees they would be even bigger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Qtip Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 The oversimplified solution my friend is for Jazz and AC pilots to get together and make this airline a better one before we are out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airmail Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 Actually Panama Jack, it is that simple. AC employees have been stuck on the "what have you (company, management, customers, government) done for me lately" frame of mind rather than "what can I do for myself and my career" mindset that the low cost carrier folks have. Who's to blame for that mindset? No one, everyone, someone else. It doesn't matter who you blame. The issue is will AC employees wake up before it's too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ai Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 When you consider the Cost/ASM variance between WS and AC, you know that AC is not in the game. We can all do our part to bring down costs to a permanent and sustainable level. We hold the keys to our future, not just RM. Let's face it, we are not the only ones in this predicament...AA now has a 2nd union group (F/As) saying that AA will be filing for bankruptcy unless things change significantly. I cannot stand this defying attitude of let's see what management/other unions have to offer before I give up anything. Sooner rather than later, it will not matter what we have to give up. As for WS.....well done guys....you are prepared to clean up after your pax as well as make other "sacrifices" in order to maximize on productivity/cost efficiency. You are getting the rewards through your share price.......imagine what this would do financially to employees whose company generates close to $10B/year in revenues......that's the game we need to get into.....NOW!! Possible Near-Term AMR Bankruptcy -Union Monday March 10, 12:42 pm ET By Jon Herskovitz DALLAS (Reuters) - The union representing flight attendants at American Airlines said it sees the world's largest carrier filing for bankruptcy "sooner rather than later." The Association of Professional Flight Attendants "has reason to believe that the timing for an AMR bankruptcy may be sooner rather than later," President John Ward said, adding that the union plans to meet with airline management in order to hammer out a relief package for the carrier. ADVERTISEMENT Ward, the head of one of the three major unions at American, said in a communication with members over the weekend that it is in the best interest of his union to do everything possible to avoid a bankruptcy of American parent company, AMR Corp. (NYSE:AMR - News). "This certainly is not a position we would choose to be in, however, the situation is what it is and an AMR bankruptcy filing would only make this difficult situation worse," Ward said. Ward and other APFA leaders were holding meetings in the Dallas area and were not immediately available to offer more information about the timing of a possible bankruptcy. "American has stated that time is of the essence and it is committed to working with its union leaders and employee groups to quickly find mutually acceptable solutions to its situation," said American spokesman Todd Burke. AMR shares were off 34 cents, or about 12 percent to $2.47 on the New York Stock Exchange (News - Websites). Last month, American asked its employees to accept $1.8 billion in wage and other concessions. The company is losing about $5 million a day and has said its current losses were unsustainable. AMR Chief Executive Don Carty has said the airline must slash $4 billion in annual costs, including the $1.8 billion in wage concessions, in order to stay in business. Carty said in a separate communication with American employees over the weekend he thought the company's goal in annual wage reductions was achievable and would make the airline a strong competitor in the industry. "I think it's clear to everyone that we do face very, very tough choices," Carty said. "Our goal is to get our costs down to competitive levels, to offer fares competitive with the low-cost carriers, and then to best them all with a superior product and people," Carty said, adding this idea is a part of a new marketing campaign. "I don't know about you, but I'm tired of hearing about the success of the low-cost carriers; I want them to hear about us for a change," he said. All three of the major unions at American have said they are meeting the carrier's call to consider wage concessions, which analysts said were essential if the world's largest airline wants to avoid bankruptcy The other two main unions at American said Washington should consider measures to help the troubled air industry, including tax relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjaer Posted March 10, 2003 Share Posted March 10, 2003 "Or if JetsGo cracked the whip even harder on it's employees they would be even bigger" I heard things about Jetsgo and Leather! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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