Cargo Agent Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 So what happens now? Dagger? anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicoChico Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Take a few very deep breaths. Give your kids a hug. This ain't the end of the world - other airlines have restructured and been the better for it and our day has come to do likewise IMHO. Cheers Chico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cargo Agent Posted April 1, 2003 Author Share Posted April 1, 2003 Good advice, Chico Best of luck to all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Prayer huddles are a good idea, though I don't recommend them for the flight attendants during an overseas flight - unsettling for the passengers. Seriously, you're entering the CCAA Twilight Zone. You get out alive, you might be swallowed up and lost to history. CCAA is no slam dunk. Chapter 11 in the US is more favorable to companies trying to reorganize. The airline will try to operate normally. If you want it to survive, you had all better try to do an exemplary job - double time, in other words - because you don't want stories on TV about chaos, bad service, whatever. This is the time to put on a big happy face and be reassuring. The airline will file papers in several countries. Since I don't believe it is in serious arrears to lessors or airport authorities, we should not see the seizures or other distractions at the outset that contributed to the sudden failure of Canada 3000. Then the airline has to draw up a plan which proposes haircuts for various creditor groups. The government's role has to be watched closely. It could offer loan guarantees to keep the airline going, or loan guarantees to provide post-bankruptcy liquidity. It could also rip up your labor contracts. The courts can't do that - at least it has never been tried in Canada - but Cabinet can because AC is federally regulated and arguably in a Force Majeure situation (war, SARS). The kind of concessions CAW made yesterday just won't cut it. Depending on the airline plan, the layoffs will be greater and I doubt the airline has to honor the top-up provisions it agreed to pay laid off workers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Cronin Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Aye laddie, there ya go. May the bird of good fortune find all of your back doors open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flyersclub Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 milton was handed the biggest prize in canadian airline history in jan. 2000, and didn't know what to do with it. also sad that ac employees are completely in the dark, at least at cdn we knew what was happening with all the alternatives and possibilites every step of the way, including full advance disclosure if what ccaa meant etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airmail Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Employees will have to do their best to reassure customers that it's business as usual -- because for the customer, it is. For employees, expect some uncertainty not because CCAA has the same provisions as Chapter 11 to set aside collective agreements but because creditors will be seeking major restructuring of the contracts as part of the hair cuts which will be shared all around -- Miloton's $650 million will sound small in comparison to what the creditors and other stakeholders will be seeking. Pensions? Good question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airmail Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Employees will have to do their best to reassure customers that it's business as usual -- because for the customer, it is. For employees, expect some uncertainty not because CCAA has the same provisions as Chapter 11 to set aside collective agreements but because creditors will be seeking major restructuring of the contracts as part of the hair cuts which will be shared all around -- Miloton's $650 million will sound small in comparison to what the creditors and other stakeholders will be seeking. Pensions? Good question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Airmail Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Employees will have to do their best to reassure customers that it's business as usual -- because for the customer, it is. For employees, expect some uncertainty not because CCAA has the same provisions as Chapter 11 to set aside collective agreements but because creditors will be seeking major restructuring of the contracts as part of the hair cuts which will be shared all around -- Miloton's $650 million will sound small in comparison to what the creditors and other stakeholders will be seeking. Pensions? Good question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AAS Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 As long as its not some Greek form of a goose thats searching for your open back door! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stem Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 glad somebody said it Marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest terrier Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 What a shame if Air Canada inflight employees now realize what they should have been doing. Too little, too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest terrier Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 If it's business as usual then you aren't gonna make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mtc. Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Too true, the attitude has done it's damage.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PRAPELLOR Posted April 1, 2003 Share Posted April 1, 2003 Using that logic now there is a much bigger "prize" available. Since the libs are unlikely to find another shotgun marriage victim, I guess we will find out what a CCAA prize is really worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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