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What’s the point of the NDP?

What would Canada’s NDP look like if it ceased to be its own distinct party, and instead operated as a phalange of the governing Liberals? Would New Democratic principles, initiatives and behaviours be perceptibly different from what the party is offering Canadians now?

If, one day, the NDP morphed from its current role as the figurative progressive flank of the Liberal Party, to the literal progressive flank of the Liberal Party – would anyone notice? Or would it take NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh donning a red tie and belting out a Queen song in a hotel lobby before the public realized that the two parties had become one?

The Liberals have steadily encroached on the NDP’s territory under Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s leadership: on the legalization of marijuana, as first promised during the 2015 election; on setting a price on carbon, though with a tax, as opposed to former NDP leader Tom Mulcair’s pledge of a national cap-and-trade system; on access to affordable daycare through its $10-a-day deal with provinces; on social justice, reconciliation and inclusivity initiatives; and so on.

The NDP will occasionally protest: “Hey, that was our idea first!” Each time, though, they will yield that idea to the Liberals and replace that hitherto occupied space with nothing. The final forfeiture of the party’s leverage and autonomy came through the confidence-and-supply agreement it reached with the Liberals in March, when the NDP promised to back the government until 2025; in exchange, the Liberals would implement certain NDP initiatives, such as dental care, and inevitably claim all the credit all their own.

The NDP can again insist, “Hey, that was our idea,” to anyone who will listen – but now it gets to do so while gritting its teeth and voting with the government on any and all matters of importance. It also gets to yield to the Liberals’ compromised version of its initiatives, including an interim dental care “program” that is more of a plan to distribute cheques, while insisting the party will make no further concessions. (We’ll see!)

The NDP’s seeming role as a Liberal Party offshoot was put to work once again this past week, when the party released a 30-second attack ad against Conservative Party Leader Pierre Poilievre. Channelling the style and substance of the Conservatives’ ads in the run-up to the 2011 election against former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff (“He didn’t come back for you!”), this NDP ad claims that Mr. Poilievre is “not in it for you,” and contends that though he claims to be an advocate for the Canadian worker, he is actually “a friend of big business and the corporate elite.”

From a Liberal perspective, this is perfect. The NDP is doing the dirty work by slinging mud against the new Conservative leader, while the Liberal Party gets to keep its hands clean and maintain the illusion that it is far too busy passing bills on doubling the GST rebate and topping up the Canada Housing Benefit to engage in silly partisan jousting.

Best of all, the ad is non-specific: It doesn’t attempt to promote the NDP, or outline any of the ways that it is advocating for the Canadian worker instead. It merely asserts that Mr. Poilievre is not, and leaves the observer to figure out the rest. Mr. Singh’s communications team should receive a fruit basket from the Prime Minister’s Office, if it hasn’t already.

The NDP knows it is now being squeezed on both political sides. Not only is the party being outflanked by the governing Liberals on social issues, climate, health care and so forth, but now the Conservatives are making direct appeals to the party’s old bread-and-butter: the blue-collar worker. Indeed, what was started by former Conservative leader Erin O’Toole during the last election, with his package of labour reforms, has been picked up and energized by Mr. Poilievre – who has spent the last several months touring the country and lamenting the rising cost of living and its effect on the average Canadian.

This shift has left the NDP wayward and confused, with Mr. Singh both decrying the pain of inflation for the Canadian family, while also decrying efforts to rein in inflation through interest-rate hikes by the Bank of Canada. What does the NDP stand for, then? Uh, better supports for Canadians workers, I guess, but delivered in a slightly different way.

The question of what justifies the NDP as a distinct federal party should not be rhetorical. As it exists now, it is less an alternative option than an influencing force: a progressive nag on the Liberals’ conscience that can influence policy, but not present a viable or electable replacement – and especially not when it has committed to support the governing party for the next three years.

Certainly many Canadians still support and will continue to support the New Democrats, but without much of a raison d’être, that support likely stems more from disillusionment with Mr. Trudeau and revulsion for Mr. Poilievre than it does the appeal of a radically different platform.

So what is the NDP in 2022 all about? Mr. Singh will tell you – just as soon as he’s finished doing Mr. Trudeau’s grunt work.

 

 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-whats-the-point-of-the-ndp/

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Someone needs to create a meme that starts with Jagmeet ranting about some nonsense and then the camera zooms out to show it's just a puppet with Trudeau's hand up it's butt 'cause that's the reality of the situation.

 

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1 hour ago, Seeker said:

Someone needs to create a meme that starts with Jagmeet ranting about some nonsense and then the camera zooms out to show it's just a puppet with Trudeau's hand up it's butt 'cause that's the reality of the situation.

 

 

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9 hours ago, GDR said:

If I remember correctly, in a recent poll the NDP was up while the Liberals dropped. Maybe the NDP can replace the Liberals.

If anything I can foresee the exact opposite happening. The NDP will be absorbed by the Liberals. Under Singh the NDP have proved beyond doubt their irrelevance on the National scene. Other than in BC they are simply an after thought (assuming Alberta doesn’t fall off a cliff again)

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NDP's attacks are proof that Pierre Poilievre is eating their 'lunch': John Baird 

The NDP put out an attack-style video this week attempting to portray the new leader of the Conservatives as someone who is 'not in it for you'

OTTAWA — Pierre Poilievre’s former campaign co-chair, John Baird, thinks the NDP is lashing out against the new Tory leader because he is eating their “lunch” among working-class voters and could pose a threat for New Democrats in the next federal election in Ontario and B.C.

Speaking with the National Post’s John Ivison, Baird said he expects many competitive races between Conservatives and the NDP now that Poilievre is leader. He expects Tories to be able to pick up seats such as veteran NDP MP Charlie Angus’s riding of Timmins–James Bay in Northern Ontario, which he has represented since 2004.

 

Baird also predicted the Tories could make gains in the NDP-rich Vancouver Island area, even though he admittedly said his party wasn’t “even competitive” in previous elections. In 2021, for instance, Conservative results varied between a close second and third place.

 

The NDP had not offered a comment to the National Post about Baird’s claims by deadline.

 

Poilievre has managed to sign up hundreds of new members in those ridings during the leadership race and won all of them by a wide margin over his competitors. He visited Northern Ontario and Vancouver Island on several occasions, boasting about his big rallies there.

Even if a leadership race is no general election, the NDP has no intention of letting Poilievre spread his message without a fight.

 

Jagmeet Singh’s party put out an attack-style video on social media earlier this week responding to Poilievre’s claims that he is fighting for the people and instead attempting to portray the new leader of the Conservatives as someone who is “not in it for you.” As of Friday afternoon, the video had been viewed 95,000 times on Twitter and “liked” more than 2,100 times.

If social media engagement is any indicator, a video on Twitter posted by Poilievre on Thursday evening to talk about the imminent loosening of travel restrictions generated no less than 388,800 views and 24,900 likes as of Friday – less than 24 hours after it was posted.

 

Manitoba NDP MP Daniel Blaikie also put out a petition Friday accusing the new Conservative leader of wanting to “weaken the retirement security for millions of working Canadians” in opposing the planned hikes for the Canada Pension Plan next year.

 

Blaikie put out the petition after Tory MP Eric Duncan told him in the House of Commons that Canadians in NDP ridings had sent their MPs a “little message” this summer that they do not like the “relationship” they’re entertaining with the Liberals. The NDP signed a confidence-and-supply agreement to back the minority government until June 2025.

 

“I think that if you notice the attacks that the NDP are making on Pierre they see he’s beginning to eat their lunch among working-class voters,” said Baird.

Baird said he likes Singh and thinks he is a “good guy,” but added he thinks the deal they made with the Liberals was “unnecessary” and “unwise.”

 

“He’ll get little credit,” he predicted.

 

Conservatives, on the other hand, will be on the offensive to try to make gains all across the country. Data collected by the National Post suggest that electoral battles between the Tories and the NDP have tightened up between the 2019 and 2021 federal elections.

 

In 2019, 10 NDP ridings saw the Conservatives in second place; in 2021, that number went up to 15 ridings. On the flip side, in 2019, 33 ridings won by Tories saw the NDP in second place; that number went up to 45 ridings in 2021.

 

Philippe J. Fournier, founder of the 338Canada poll aggregator, said that it was still too early to speculate on the Conservatives’ chances of actually eating the NDP’s lunch but confirmed that many ridings in the country are battles between the NDP and the Tories where the Liberals are simply not a factor.

He added that Poilievre’s team could be following Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s footsteps in courting unions and the working-class vote, something Ford did during the past provincial election and which won him NDP ridings in Ontario.

 

“The NDP does not want to lose their labour vote to Poilievre,” said Fournier.

 

An NDP official, speaking on background, said that Baird is no expert on the working class and that the recent Ontario election demonstrated that the path to success “is not to exploit the hard right, anti-vaccine population.”

 

“The path to success for Premier Ford was to appeal to everyday families with tangible commitments focused on fighting the rising cost of living and creating good jobs — the opposite of Pierre Poilievre’s approach,” said the official.

Baird said that Poilievre has not only been attracting working-class voters, but younger and more diverse voters as well.

 

He pointed to the rallies and events in the Greater Toronto Area, which attracted a number of cultural communities — Persian Canadians in Don Valley East, Indo-Canadians in Brampton or Chinese Canadians in Markham — and suggested the next federal election would be a whole different game now that Poilievre is at the helm of the party.

 

“There’s no doubt that the election will be in a big way about the 905 belt around Toronto,” he said.

 

“That will be the big enchilada, so to speak.”

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ndps-attacks-are-proof-that-pierre-poilievre-is-eating-their-lunch-john-baird

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After heated debate, Sask. NDP votes to cancel plan to invite Jagmeet Singh to its convention 

One delegate said there are constituents who would vote for the Saskatchewan NDP but don’t like how the federal NDP has propped up the Trudeau government.

The Saskatchewan NDP has cancelled plans to invite federal leader Jagmeet Singh to its convention following what some sources described as a heated debate over whether the federal party is hurting the provincial party’s electoral success.

In a narrow vote during the NDP’s provincial council meeting on Sept. 18, members voted to not invite Singh to their convention in October and instead will ask he supply a video message, according to multiple sources with direct knowledge of the meeting.

 

Sources told the Leader-Post there had been plans to invite Singh, as is customary with all federal leaders, though some speculated the invite had already been sent.

 

Party president Sheila Whelan declined to comment on the vote, saying such meetings are confidential.

 

The decision left some members “annoyed,” arguing it would move the NDP more to the right on the political spectrum, even though they respect the new leadership under Carla Beck.

 

One source said people were taken aback. Another said it plays into the Saskatchewan Party’s hands by letting them control the narrative, noting it shouldn’t matter if Singh is invited.

 

The Leader-Post agreed to not identify the sources because of possible repercussions.

 

The Sask. Party has long attempted to link the provincial NDP with the federal party. Singh is currently in a deal with the federal Liberal government, which will see the NDP support budget and confidence matters in exchange for NDP asks, like dental care.

 

Another source, however, said it matters how the relationship is perceived between the provincial and federal NDP.

 

Before members were asked to vote on inviting Singh, a member connected to Beck’s leadership campaign raised concerns about the federal party.

 

They cited the 2020 autopsy report that analyzed the Saskatchewan NDP’s loss during the last provincial election. The report urged the provincial NDP to be harder on the federal party when Saskatchewan’s interests are at stake, noting that leader Jagmeet Singh’s position on resource development and pipelines have hurt the brand.

They said there are constituents who would vote for the Saskatchewan NDP but don’t like how the federal NDP has propped up the Trudeau government.

 

The vote was described as informal because delegates were asked to raise their hands on whether they should invite Singh, though one person said the vote was recorded and done democratically.

 

The vote came in two rounds. During the first round, members were asked to vote on one of three options: invite Singh, disinvite but get a video message, and disinvite entirely with no video.

 

The third option, disinvite with no video, failed with roughly 13 votes. Following that, members were then asked to vote again: invite Singh or disinvite him but get a video message.

 

The option to disinvite but get a video won 30-28. One source said “a few people” walked out after the vote because they were upset.

 

Someone had challenged the chair, sources said, and asked for an emergency motion, which they say didn’t pass.

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Why stop at the 1970’s…?? They should follow the lead of the others and claim back to the era of Adam and  Eve. The payback could be ginormous! then again the Trudeau and Singh combo will probably cry some tears and promise to pay them TRILLLIONS in compensation. After all it’s YOUR fault this happened mega years ago ….don’t cha know?

Canadians should file a lawsuit against the Government for how many people they hired who were NOT qualified for jobs, but  just because they had to fill quota’s of color and race and genders and sexual preferences. In reality, because they are civil servants they are paid in most cases more than 20% above the comparable wage in the private sector.....they have lavish benefits, guaranteed pensions and so on.

If you don't like your job or the way your treated you have the same options as anyone else....leave and find something more suitable. You have that freedom.

 

Black civil servants file complaint to United Nations, citing racism

OTTAWA — A group of Black civil servants is filing a complaint to the United Nations Commission for Human Rights accusing the federal government of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and intolerance.

NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh and Amnesty International Canada are supporting this latest action from workers who filed a class-action lawsuit against the federal government in 2020 alleging systemic discrimination in how it hires and promotes public servants.


https://torontosun.com/news/national/black-civil-servants-file-complaint-to-united-nations-citing-racism?fbclid=IwAR3FaiBcA5eK8C8FHeeocbIjjWDGi5Z80Dm_twbHuUJ7Pihbs86hz_cRLjo

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