Free To Fly

[Critical thinker]

5 hours ago, Specs said:

That's funny - my kid says that to me every time I try to get her to eat her carrots.

I wonder what you’ll say when they insist your child get a fourth fifth sixth and seventh vaccination shot. No parent control then, eh? But maybe you’re one of those that are OK with that lol!!!!!

[Critical thinker]

The difference between tyranny and democracy, it’s very simple. When a government knows everything about you, that is tyranny. When you know everything about your government, that is democracy.

Christian Dedvas- 

European Union, Mep-

[neverminds]

Can the moderator please mute this idiot “Critical Thinker”? Go lurk in a flat earth dark web site where you belong

[Rich Pulman]

17 minutes ago, neverminds said:

Can the moderator please mute this idiot “Critical Thinker”? Go lurk in a flat earth dark web site where you belong

No, no, no!! Some of us need the presence of dimwits to feel smrt.

[Critical thinker]

Said like a true libertarian or should I say socialist 

[Critical thinker]

Angry at me because I do actual research beyond the stuff that you digest from MSM. Call me names as much as you want, but that doesn’t make your ideology any better than you sound. Our fallen soldiers didn’t lay down their lives for people like you. Suck on that communist 

[Tango Foxtrot]

Perhaps a sobriety test incorporated into the "submit reply " function would facilitate better replies

[Critical thinker]

Good because they need it. I don’t drink or do drugs and I would much rather “debate” with people who view free speech as a right not to be squelched instead of some of the shameless on this site that would like to silence…

[Tango Foxtrot]

Are you trying to tell us that you do this sober? 

 Are you out of work because of your Flu Clucks Clan membership ?

[Critical thinker]

Good rebuttal but that shows your level of intelligence. I’m fully employed and fully protected and have family that gave their lives in the fight against fascism and socialism btw. Oh well, misery loves company. Good luck with your posturing…

I’ll pray for you 

[GDR]

This was a forum of thoughtful cordial conversation. I think that the divisiveness on this forum is representative of what is happening in our society, and I suggest that it is largely fed by the tone of our politicians. We have negative labels for anyone who hold a position different than our own it seems. It has now been exacerbated by taking people away from direct social contact, and turning to their keyboards. The discussions become less and less civil. Sad.

[Rich Pulman]

8 hours ago, Critical thinker said:

Said like a true libertarian or should I say socialist 

Personally, I enjoy the library; it can be quite social.

Edited November 3, 2021 by Rich Pulman

[Seeker]

1 hour ago, GDR said:

This was a forum of thoughtful cordial conversation. I think that the divisiveness on this forum is representative of what is happening in our society, and I suggest that it is largely fed by the tone of our politicians. We have negative labels for anyone who hold a position different than our own it seems. It has now been exacerbated by taking people away from direct social contact, and turning to their keyboards. The discussions become less and less civil. Sad.

This is a good point/post.  When I see long time members posting insulting, dismissive and simply mean comments it's clear that something has changed.  It's not just here in our little place on the internet either - I see the same thing in other forums I visit.  I see it in myself too, unfortunately, I've posted some things I regret.

The unvaxxed are being told, and believe, by those they read that their rights to free choice and body autonomy are being stripped away.  The vaccinated are being told that they are being negatively affected by the unvaxxed.

I don't know how to turn it around or if it's even possible.  I do know of many families and relationships that have suffered severe damage.  The fallout will be with us for many years.

[mo32a]

I love the "you've chosen to ignore content from .........." option.

Much less strife in one's life when you are not subjected to idiots.

[Seeker]

58 minutes ago, mo32a said:

I love the "you've chosen to ignore content from .........." option.

Much less strife in one's life when you are not subjected to idiots.

I think you might have missed the point of my post.  That is unless you're ignoring my content and didn't even see my post - maybe you're replying to some other post and won't see this this one either - it's all very confusing.

 

 

[Jaydee]

16 hours ago, GDR said:

The discussions become less and less civil. Sad.

If you want to know why, look no further than the biased intolerant media as they foment division every day. Describing over 50 % of the population as “dangerous” can only end one way.

‘This from yesterday….

 

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by Jaydee

[J.O.]

8 hours ago, Seeker said:

This is a good point/post.  When I see long time members posting insulting, dismissive and simply mean comments it's clear that something has changed.  It's not just here in our little place on the internet either - I see the same thing in other forums I visit.  I see it in myself too, unfortunately, I've posted some things I regret.

The unvaxxed are being told, and believe, by those they read that their rights to free choice and body autonomy are being stripped away.  The vaccinated are being told that they are being negatively affected by the unvaxxed.

I don't know how to turn it around or if it's even possible.  I do know of many families and relationships that have suffered severe damage.  The fallout will be with us for many years.

I wanted to like this post but it seems that option isn’t available for your comments. 

That said, I’m not a fan of people who appear on a forum anonymously and immediately start tossing hand grenades and calling people who’ve chosen to be vaccinated “naive idiots”. If you (Mr. C. T.) truly had the courage of your convictions, you would put your name to what you say. This IMHO is why you’re getting the blowback, and you’ve earned it.

I also want to be clear that while I believe in the vaccine program, I am dead set against the mandate. I’m having a hard time seeing past the hypocrisy of a government that spent months telling us their political opponents didn’t truly believe in a woman’s right to make choices for her own body, then turning around and telling all of us that we don’t have the right to determine what is injected into our bodies, all in in exchange for a paycheque or the right to get on an airplane. I also hate what this is doing to the mental health of a lot of good people. I’m lucky to work for a company that treats every team member as family. We’re struggling to reconcile what’s been forced on us by the mandate with the damage its doing to our culture. It’s a small sample of what’s being done to our country, and I’m sick of it.

[CanadaEH]

https://twitter.com/CarymaRules/status/1455542435283603462?s=20

[Tango Foxtrot]

[FA@AC]

WS, AC, TS and Sunwing have put their unvaccinated staff aside from those who were given exemptions on leave.  Unless the respective unions decide to go to bat for the anti-vaxxers or the sale of ribbons generates funding sufficient to mount a legal challenge, it's over.  

[Critical thinker]

3 hours ago, J.O. said:

I wanted to like this post but it seems that option isn’t available for your comments. 

That said, I’m not a fan of people who appear on a forum anonymously and immediately start tossing hand grenades and calling people who’ve chosen to be vaccinated “naive idiots”. If you (Mr. C. T.) truly had the courage of your convictions, you would put your name to what you say. This IMHO is why you’re getting the blowback, and you’ve earned it.

I also want to be clear that while I believe in the vaccine program, I am dead set against the mandate. I’m having a hard time seeing past the hypocrisy of a government that spent months telling us their political opponents didn’t truly believe in a woman’s right to make choices for her own body, then turning around and telling all of us that we don’t have the right to determine what is injected into our bodies, all in in exchange for a paycheque or the right to get on an airplane. I also hate what this is doing to the mental health of a lot of good people. I’m lucky to work for a company that treats every team member as family. We’re struggling to reconcile what’s been forced on us by the mandate with the damage its doing to our culture. It’s a small sample of what’s being done to our country, and I’m sick of it.

I don’t believe my opinions were bombs and as far as insults, I never cower from anyone who would try to bully me or anyone else. That’s why I fired back. I didn’t ask to be insulted and as far as my Anonymity, I will certainly change that now. 

[Skeptic]

11 hours ago, Critical thinker said:

 I didn’t ask to be insulted and as far as my Anonymity, I will certainly change that now. 

And you are??????????  Awaiting the reveal........... 

[J.O.]

12 hours ago, Critical thinker said:

I don’t believe my opinions were bombs and as far as insults, I never cower from anyone who would try to bully me or anyone else. That’s why I fired back. I didn’t ask to be insulted and as far as my Anonymity, I will certainly change that now. 

I admit that I haven’t always been clean on this either but I have been working hard to stay above the fray and be respectful, reaping what I have sown so to speak. Like all things in life, I’m a work in progress.

I acknowledge that perception belongs to perceiver, but really? You don’t see these as even a little condescending?

“Some also jump before making sure the water is deep enough too”

”Ignorance is bliss, eh? Wow! ”

“I wonder what you’ll say when they insist your child get a fourth fifth sixth and seventh vaccination shot. No parent control then, eh? But maybe you’re one of those that are OK with that lol!!!!!”

Edited November 4, 2021 by J.O.

[mo32a]

23 hours ago, Seeker said:

I think you might have missed the point of my post.  That is unless you're ignoring my content and didn't even see my post - maybe you're replying to some other post and won't see this this one either - it's all very confusing.

 

 

Not directed at you, I added CT to my list.

[Wolfhunter]

The other side of this qualifies as anecdotal I guess, but in my little circle of acquaintances, those with the strongest views (on both sides) of the vaccine debate are unable to discuss the issue at a high school biology level.

It’s noteworthy that this forum has a wealth of aviation experience that exists on virtually any topic you could name. From UAV/UAS  to hang gliders and from helicopters to heavy commercial jets. We have business professionals and lawyers, flight safety specialists and even investment, financing and IT people. We could discuss almost any aspect of almost any aviation topic in significant depth.    

But imagine it, what if we discussed aviation safety, or a host of related topics with the same lack of depth that I see here. In general, I’m gobsmacked by the questions not being asked, current events both domestic and global wilfully ignored by the media and impenetrable narratives unlikely to survive first contact with the goddess of unintended circumstance.

Please don’t get the idea that it’s only here, or that I’m picking on any particular individual…I’m not. I fear that we have collectively become a nation of silly people and that comes at a cost. Not only is the cost self inflicted, it’s always payed for by people who no longer want what they thought they did when they were adamant in demanding it.