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Edited August 3, 2021 by Jaydee

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[Jaydee]

Sound Familiar ? Trudeau wants to turn back clock on free speech

Appears feds really want to target speech that offends Liberals

 

Federal Heritage Minister Steven Guilbeault plans to introduce legislation and regulations this year to “protect Canadians online” when using social media.

Be very afraid.

“We intend a comprehensive approach with the tabling of a bill in early 2021 that will apply to the various platforms (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.),” according to a briefing note from his department on “Regulation of Social Media Platforms” to “promote a safer and more inclusive online environment.”

“Social media platforms,” it continues, “can … be used to threaten, intimidate, bully and harass people, or used to promote racist, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, misogynistic and homophobic views that target communities, put people’s safety at risk and undermine Canada’s social cohesion or democracy.”

Other government documents cite child pornography

But as Blacklock’s Reporter noted in reporting on the issue, we already have criminal laws against hate speech — and for that matter against child pornography, harassment, uttering threats and civil laws against libel and slander.

 

As a Liberal MP wisely said in May, 2019, freedom of speech is “so fundamental to our democracies” that, “we recognize the solution doesn’t lie in government’s heavy hand over our internet, over our public spaces.”

He warned while democratic governments might view such legislation as useful to protect citizens and ensure social media platforms behave responsibly, in countries without those traditions, it “might be a tool for oppression of citizens, or control, or really attacking free speech.”

The Liberal MP was Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who said he would only consider such legislation as a last resort.

That begs the question of what changed between May and September of 2019, when his election platform promised: “We will target online hate speech, exploitation and harassment, and do more to protect victims of hate speech.”

It said while there are positive aspects to social media it can also “be used to threaten, intimidate, bully and harass people — or used to promote racist, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic, misogynist, and homophobic views … put people’s safety at risk, and undermine Canada’s long-standing commitment to diversity.”

It also cited terrorism.

Because of that, it said, “we will move forward with new regulations for social media platforms, starting with a requirement that all platforms remove illegal content, including hate speech, within 24 hours or face significant financial penalties.”

Given that we already have criminal and civil laws to deal with these issues, it appears what the Liberals really want to target is speech they think “undermines Canada’s long-standing commitment to diversity.”  That is, speech that offends Liberals.

Can you imagine a world where social media companies would have 24 hours to take down “illegal” postings that allegedly undermine the Liberals’ definition of “diversity” or face “significant financial penalties,” if not criminal prosecution, to say nothing of what happens to the person posting the “illegal” tweets or other comments?

In a decision in 2008, the Supreme Court of Canada broadened the legal defence of fair comment to make it consistent with the freedom of expression provisions in the Charter.

In 2013, the federal Conservative government repealed Section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act, which many Liberals agreed contained a dangerously broad definition of hate speech.

In 2015, Ontario’s Liberal government passed anti-SLAPP (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) legislation to protect the public’s right to speak out on matters of public interest, without being buried in intimidating lawsuits by powerful opponents.

Now, in 2021, Trudeau wants to turn back the clock on free speech.

lgoldstein@postmedia.com

 

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-trudeau-wants-to-turn-back-clock-on-free-speech?fbclid=IwAR3pm47bea82VGftaZxUIOu7gSS5jfkmL2D4-rjw6YpU3UKV8bPjzaGlWaw

 

You might be advised to stock up.

 

Edited January 15, 2021 by Jaydee

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[A330PilotCanada]

5 hours ago, Jaydee said:

 

Jaydee  if the original Justin is locked why start another one?

[Jaydee]

6 hours ago, A330PilotCanada said:

Jaydee  if the original Justin is locked why start another one?

Dear Mr. Dorsey 

Seeker indicated new threads could be started. Consider this thread a “Fresh Start”

IMO, as long as Justin Trudeau is a public figure destroying this country with every move he makes this topic is VERY relevant and should remain open.  When he is finally relegated to the garbage bin of political history I will gladly delete it. Until then there will be eons of material waiting to be written in the next few years.

Regards , Jaydee  

PS (1) If the subject is that repulsive and you are looking for a “safe place”, simply don’t read it.

PS (2) Also, please take the opportunity at this point in time to use the “block user” option.

PS (3) Before you go, as a moderator of threads you start, did you know you have the delete capability ? ..maybe you could save some space by deleting the TWENTY, New York Times, Trump bashing, propaganda, mostly single post  threads you started as they are no longer relevant, much like the Trump thread. (It was quite obvious all you were trying to do was push every other thread off the first page.)

 

 

 

Edited January 16, 2021 by Jaydee

[Jaydee]

China has more “diplomats” assigned to Canada than to any other country. Remarkably, there are one-third more stationed here than in the United States. Many are engaged in what the Communist Party of China describes as “promotion of stability activities”.
 

“ Why has the Meng Affair proved to be such a massive diplomatic headache for Canada? The simplest answer is that Huawei is one of the People’s Republic of China’s most important enterprises – its ownership structure is murky and strongly suggests state control – and its success is inextricably connected to China’s geopolitical ambitions. Any threat to Huawei is thus perceived as a threat to China itself. Adding to this effect is the fact Meng is widely expected to take over once the firm’s founder, her father Ren, steps down. But the role played by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in contributing to the problems for Canada cannot be overlooked. By failing to clearly articulate Canada’s best interests and then acting accordingly, Trudeau bears a large share of the responsibility for this mess. “
 

More >>>>
 

https://c2cjournal.ca/2020/11/the-beaver-and-the-dragon/?_post_id=23152

[Jaydee]

 “ Other countries are not at all squeamish about pursuing the global LNG opportunity. Australia, long a global LNG player, has been constructing even more facilities and in 2018 became the world’s largest LNG exporter”

“ LNG Canada’s shareholders include state-controlled PetroChina. Replacing a portion of China’s coal-generated electricity with natural gas from this single project represents a global emissions reduction equivalent to taking up to 80 percent of all cars off Canadian roads. This is a vastly greater practical benefit than all of the Justin Trudeau government’s economically debilitating and nationally divisive carbon taxes, electric vehicle and green power subsidies put together. Tens of thousands of well-paying jobs, billions in tax revenues to all levels of government for many decades to come, along with important foreign exchange revenue, will be created.

For this project to finally be under construction after more than a decade of navigating Canada’s Byzantine and sluggish regulatory process, and while facing conflicting First Nations’ claims and determined opposition from well-funded international environmentalist organizations, is a testimony to the determination and resiliency of the project’s leader, South Africa-born engineer Andy Calitz. Without him, LNG Canada would have joined the crowded LNG project graveyard.”

 

https://c2cjournal.ca/2020/12/a-practical-way-for-canada-to-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions/?_post_id=23506

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So now investment/involvement from China is a good thing?

Confusing...

[Jaydee]

Resignation of Canadian Minister Navdeep Bains saves Liberal Party from embarrassment on corruption charges.

 

: The resignation of Navdeep Bains, Canada’s Minister of Science, Innovation, and Industry has surprised many across the world. Experts observing Canadian politics underscore the fact that the development is not as simple as it looks. Rather, it should be seen as an attempt by the ruling Liberal Party to save itself from frequent embarrassments on corruption charges and the toil to cover those cases up.

Earlier this week, Canadian Minister Navdeep Bains publicly declared to resign from his post and quit politics on personal grounds - to give more time to his family. 

In November 2018, The Pointer exposed the news of corruption in a land deal and highlighted that Brampton Mayor Linda Jeffrey's chief of staff Hasneet Punia had shared confidential details regarding a deal of a piece of land measuring 20-acre to Navdeep Bains, and another liberal MP Raj Grewal. 
 

https://zeenews.india.com/world/resignation-of-canadian-minister-navdeep-bains-saves-liberal-party-from-embarrassment-on-corruption-charges-2336093.html

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Nothing to see here, says party desperately hiding something

Andrew MacDougall: The Liberals want Canadians to 'arrive at a conclusion'. After all the resignations and games, there's really only one to draw.

“Canadians now have the necessary information to arrive at a conclusion.”

Given the Liberals on the justice committee released those words about their ‘investigation’ into the five-alarm fire that is the SNC-Lavalin scandal on the very day that Michael Wernick was claimed as another of its victims—based largely on his serial immolation in front of their committee—we’re going to need a new word for “chutzpah”.

Justin Trudeau has now lost his top aide, two of his top ministers, and the country’s top bureaucrat because of SNC, and the Liberals are asking us to “arrive at a conclusion”

What conclusion do they think anyone can draw from trying to shut down inquiries into this clusterf–k, other than ‘these people definitely have something to hide’?

It’s breathtaking.

So bravo, Liberal Party of Canada; congratulations on achieving in three years a level of cynicism and contempt for the electorate most governments only reach at the tail end of their third mandate. It’s about the only thing the Liberals have managed to deliver that’s under-budget and ahead of schedule.

READ MORE: Trudeau apologized in Iqaluit. The media missed an opportunity.

Principled Liberals must look back at 2015 like it was some kind of fever dream. Trudeau’s Liberals were going to be pro-women, transparent, non-partisan, evidence-based, for the middle class, and free from the all-controlling grip of the PMO. Now it’s 2019 and they’re gleefully trading women, transparency and evidence in favour of special interests, all at the direction of an ultra-partisan PMO.

And before the ‘two wrongs make a right’ brigade pops up to spew their whataboutery: the Liberals were supposed to be better than the gang they replaced, not the same or worse.

Even worse, in this case the Liberals deployed their deep bag of dirty tricks in the service of a company that has done things like bribe hospital managers and foreign governments to get their custom.

Had this firm been headquartered in a place like Calgary, or in an industry Justin Trudeau doesn’t give a toss about—like oil and gas—would the government have let it face the music? This is about politics, not jobs. Full stop.

Indeed, the gang who were all for evidence-based policy a few years back took SNC’s wild claims of catastrophic job loss at more or less face value. The government certainly didn’t press the company hard, if at all. Even Gerry Butts, Trudeau’s High Priest of Facts, could only mumble something about Finance having the figures when asked. Had they bothered to look, Liberals would have found a long-term investment in SNC from the Caisse de dépôt and the resulting commitment to keep SNC HQ in Montreal for years on end. No, SNC said ‘jump’ and Trudeau went through the roof.

And when the whole sordid tale finally came to light in the Feb. 7 edition of The Globe and Mail the Liberals went full Nixon instead of full transparency. Instead of treating the issue of the independence of the criminal justice system seriously the Liberals have tried to downplay it or—worse—treat it as a difference of opinion, a position that is both morally and ethically bankrupt.

From calling the story false to slandering Wilson-Raybould off-the-record, to muzzling her, to circumscribing her ability to speak, to now shutting down the entire committee investigation, the Liberals have resisted transparency at every turn. And if you believe the Ethics Commissioner is going to get to the bottom of this, then you, my friend, qualify for membership in the Trudeau Chapter of the Useful Idiots Club.

Instead of simply believing Wilson-Raybould—or Jane Philpott, for that matter—the Prime Minister has brushed them off as having either poor memories or poor comprehension skills. They simply experienced the inappropriate pressure differently, Trudeau explained, a line he first trotted out last summer to mansplain away an old groping allegation, a route out he had denied to others in his caucus facing similar allegations.

Because Trudeau just doesn’t live by normal standards or rules. He doesn’t pal around with the middle class and those hoping to join them. He hangs out with the jet set, the people who can afford cash for access, with the Aga Khan on his island and the tech titans who are polarizing our societies. These are his people. Of course he listened when SNC came calling.

And as the vice began to grip, Trudeau’s instinct was to politicize the public service in his defense, trotting out Wernick to run interference by caterwauling about the threat of violence on our streets. It was the same trick Trudeau pulled with Daniel Jean during the India trip when a convicted Sikh terrorist was spotted in his entourage. And you thought Stephen Harper was toxic for the non-partisan public service?

What’s worse, nothing will now change Trudeau’s mind on SNC. The company will get its deal, no matter what the federal courts or OECD say. On SNC, the Liberals have become the practitioners of the democratic failure they so harshly condemned in 2015.

 

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/nothing-to-see-here-says-party-desperately-hiding-something/

Edited January 16, 2021 by Jaydee

[Seeker]

That's a beautiful article by Maclean's.  I didn't think they had it in them.  Now, just a few more articles about the Covid contracts handed out in QB and and the WE debacle and put them on "repeat"!

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[A330PilotCanada]

On 1/15/2021 at 9:31 PM, Jaydee said:

Dear Mr. Dorsey 

Seeker indicated new threads could be started. Consider this thread a “Fresh Start”

IMO, as long as Justin Trudeau is a public figure destroying this country with every move he makes this topic is VERY relevant and should remain open.  When he is finally relegated to the garbage bin of political history I will gladly delete it. Until then there will be eons of material waiting to be written in the next few years.

Regards , Jaydee  

PS (1) If the subject is that repulsive and you are looking for a “safe place”, simply don’t read it.

PS (2) Also, please take the opportunity at this point in time to use the “block user” option.

PS (3) Before you go, as a moderator of threads you start, did you know you have the delete capability ? ..maybe you could save some space by deleting the TWENTY, New York Times, Trump bashing, propaganda, mostly single post  threads you started as they are no longer relevant, much like the Trump thread. (It was quite obvious all you were trying to do was push every other thread off the first page.)

 

 

 

Good Afternoon Jaydee:

I had a huge chuckle at being called “Mr. Dorsey” as opposed to A-330 as I do not have his financial reach!

It seems that I took the more conservative view about Seeker saying “contentious threads” being locked where you took the more liberal view hence my question to you.

With regards to PS 1 I read everything in order to form an opinion.

With regards to PS 2 why should I block you? Sometimes reading extreme views brings balance in life.

With regards to PS 3 last time, I checked my online presence did not have Admin on it so why don’t you have Admin on your online presence? Funny to see that the “20” offending threads are not on page 1 anymore but how about a deal? For any of my offending threads (by the way rookie mistake of mine on postings which I PM two of the senor members of the AEF on advice which I have followed) I will remove one for each of yours.

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As I said. Nice try Dorsey. FYI.. I deleted three out of date threads just last week as they were no longer relevant. In reality I am a proponent of never closing any threads PERIOD, especially active ones. When the topic wanes so will interest in discussing it and history be preserved. One offs are a different matter. They are usually just a waste of space imo.

Edited January 17, 2021 by Jaydee

[Jaydee]

[st27]

I know, I know, it’s Rebel News......but...... just because the CBC didn’t report it, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. There were early signs of the Corona virus that the government chose to ignore while relying on the WHO....The letter seems compelling.

https://www.rebelnews.com/covid_coverup_trudeau_govt_helped_china_hide_origins_of_covid_19

Given Trudeau’s record on being transparent, is this coverup more or less plausible?

[Jaydee]

15 minutes ago, st27 said:

I know, I know, it’s Rebel News......but...... just because the CBC didn’t report it, it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. There were early signs of the Corona virus that the government chose to ignore while relying on the WHO....The letter seems compelling.

https://www.rebelnews.com/covid_coverup_trudeau_govt_helped_china_hide_origins_of_covid_19

From the article...

” 

The story that has been told and generally accepted about the origins of COVID-19 is not true. Where did the virus that causes this disease come from? And equally important, when precisely did it arrive in Canada?

I have obtained secret military documents distributed from the highest ranks of the Canadian Armed Forces in an attempt to cover up a scandal of global proportions. The document, titled “Potential exposure to 2019 Novel Coronavirus during 7th military world games in October 2019 in Wuhan, Hubei Province China,” was written by Canada’s Surgeon General, A.M.T. Downes, Major General.

Downes's position reports to and obeys Trudeau’s defence minister, Harjit Sajjan. A handful of weeks after sending out this gaslighting letter to every Canadian soldier who was in Wuhan for the Military Games, Major General Downes resigned.

I am going to share with you every crucial detail of this letter, along with an exclusive interview with a senior Canadian Armed Forces soldier. In order to protect the safety and identity of the brave soldier who came forward with this information, we have replaced their voice with a voice actor.

Our source details Canada’s coverup response to a critical pneumonia outbreak in a contingent of 176 Canadian soldiers stationed in Wuhan, over two months before the People’s Republic of China reported outbreaks in the same city, but just a few weeks before the first officially recognized case on November 17, 2019.

While the contingent was returning to Canada on a Polaris jet, one third of the members were quarantined in the back of the plane. They were perhaps the first Canadians to ever quarantine from the Wuhan Virus. Strangely, upon return to Canada, the senior ranks of the armed forces decided to end the quarantine of the soldiers and send them back to their homes across the country.

What was the response of Justin Trudeau’s surgeon general to this? And don’t be fooled, the surgeon general reports directly to Trudeau’s defence minister — he is a political soldier.

Naturally, the government decided to cover it up. When soldiers started asking to be tested, the answer was no. See, if several dozen Canadian soldiers tested positive for COVID-19 antibodies in January 2020, having been infected in October 2019, the Chinese would be in very, very hot water. Irrefutable proof that they had lied about the origins of the virus.

The letter was sent out on Jan. 22,  around the time the Canadian government realized the Wuhan Virus crisis was going to be taking up all of the air in the room for a very long time. While Dr. Theresa Tam, the chief medical officer of health was telling Canadians to calm down and quit being racist to the Chinese, the military was scrambling to contain this news.

“We are not aware of any 2019 NCOV cases among CISM MWG participants,” the letter read. 

“We are confident that the number of suspected 2019 NCOV cases as well as the number of countries reporting suspected cases will increase in the next 30 days. The increase in case count will continue to generate significant media attention and public concern particularly as travel peaks during the first week of February due to the Chinese New Year.”

The military, in consultation with political leadership, refused to test the critically sick soldiers for COVID-19, which might explain why they were not aware of any confirmed COVID cases, when the contingent was swept by extreme cases of pneumonia. “ 

[boestar]

On 1/15/2021 at 8:31 PM, A330PilotCanada said:

Jaydee  if the original Justin is locked why start another one?

because, like the theory goes, if you spout the same information long enough people will start to believe it.

[Jaydee]

40 minutes ago, boestar said:

because, like the theory goes, if you spout the same information long enough people will start to believe it.

Taken right from the Liberal playbook.

 

 

[Jaydee]

 

Rex Murphy: The Liberals have performed so well, we should award them a spring election? Really?

Who could resist an election without those annoying town halls and constituency meetings, with candidates locked safely away from the voters?

“ Stay home. Stay alone. We have your back. And we are pouring billions in a wild river into the economy to keep you safe. These were the words and actions that gave comfort to all Canadians.

We are pouring billions in a wild river into the economy

 

And, as for Parliament. Well, who does not appreciate that Parliament is only for times when we are not in crisis, when we are spending within normal limits. Because, above all things, there is never a need to convene our only guarantee of democracy, when truly nation-changing events are actually in progress.

Parliament, as I have written in these pages earlier, exists only for the incidental passages in the life of the nation.

And so we come back to the speculations of a federal spring election. I totally agree that it is a great and worthy idea. Conducted without public gatherings, without those annoying town halls and constituency meetings, with candidates sealed safely in Zoom rooms away from all contact with voters — a totally virtual election in fact — who would resist the idea?

 

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rex-murphy-the-liberals-have-performed-so-well-we-should-award-them-a-spring-election-really

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How to remove a rogue PM — it's more complicated than Canadians might think

If Justin Trudeau quit tomorrow, Governor General Julie Payette would probably ask his deputy Chrystia Freeland to take over – but there’s nothing saying Payette would have to.

“The thing to be clear is, [in Canada] there is nothing equivalent to the vice-presidential position where there is a clearly delineated line of succession,” Karl Salgo, executive director of the Institute on Governance and a former Parliament Hill procedural advisor, told the National Post.

If Prime Minister Justin Trudeau quit tomorrow, Governor General Julie Payette would probably ask his deputy Chrystia Freeland to take over – but there’s nothing saying Payette would have to. Technically, the Governor General can appoint anybody as prime minister of Canada; the only requirement is that they’re able to command the confidence of the House. If the House of Commons decided tomorrow that Ryan Reynolds was best equipped to man the tiller of our great dominion, he could be sitting in the Langevin Block by week’s end without so much as winning a seat in the House of Commons.

In Canada, transitions of power have usually relied on the cooperation of defeated leaders. When a prime minister loses an election or gets shunted out by their own party, the expected thing for them to do is drive to Rideau Hall and hand in their resignation. The last time this happened was November, 2015, when Stephen Harper stepped down from the top job after the Liberals’ win of a majority government.

 

But if a prime minister can’t or won’t resign for whatever reason, all the Governor General has to do is appoint another one, which automatically puts the prior officeholder out of a job. When Sir John A. Macdonald died in office of a series of strokes in 1891, his corpse unambiguously stopped being prime minister the moment Governor General Frederick Stanley (of Stanley Cup fame) appointed John Abbott as his successor.

The much dicier proposition is when a prime minister is still alive, but refuses to gracefully step aside. It’s never happened in Canada but “she (the governor general) can remove a prime minister who seeks to govern unconstitutionally,” said Salgo, adding that “the virtue of our system” is that, unlike the United States, the head of government and the head of state are not the same person.

In normal circumstances, prime ministers are removed from power by losing parliamentary confidence votes or by leadership rebellions within their own party. But both of those scenarios rely on a leader willing to voluntarily step down; in extraordinary circumstances a scofflaw prime minister could simply ignore their cabinet, refuse to convene parliament and continue issuing edicts from their executive office.

“ If the Prime Minister and Governor General were in cahoots we'd be in a bad spot “

 

The real wild card is if an uncooperative prime minister has also managed to corrupt the office of the Governor General. While Governors General are technically appointed by the Queen, for generations Buckingham Palace has simply appointed whoever their various overseas prime ministers recommend. So while unlikely, it’s not inconceivable that a prime minister could simply put a willing confederate in Rideau Hall before going rogue.

“If the Prime Minister and Governor General were in cahoots we’d be in a bad spot,” said Philippe Lagasse, a Westminster expert at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs. “The system depends on having Governors General who aren’t in league with the Prime Minister.”

One thing protecting Canada from the tyranny of a rogue diarchy, noted Lagasse, is the existence of a permanent public service. While most U.S. federal departments are controlled by political appointees, in Canada these positions are instead filled by non-partisan bureaucrats who might well balk at following orders from a prime minister who has alienated cabinet, parliament and appointed a buddy as Canada’s commander-in-chief.

“If a PM lost the confidence of the House, refused to resign or call an election, the public service could push back far more,” said Lagasse.

The result would be a full-blown constitutional crisis that, ultimately, could only be untied by the Queen herself.

While Buckingham Palace absolutely hates making decisions about governance, particularly in overseas dominions, they might make an exception if a cross-partisan Canadian delegation showed up in London asking them to fire a maniac holed up in 24 Sussex.

Tristin Hopper, National Post Staff