FA@AC Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I found Garneau to be ineffectual to put it mildly. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-cabinet-shuffle-small-1.5869541 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Omar Alghabra will be promoted to cabinet to take over Transport. Omar should be good at solving things with a name like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Maybe 1 hour ago, Kasey said: Omar Alghabra will be promoted to cabinet to take over Transport. Omar should be good at solving things with a name like that Maybe like......math........Algebra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnboy Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 He was not a member of Trudeau's wedding party so I suspect he will be ineffectual as Transport Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Interesting how Trudeau’s besties from 15 years ago not only manage to be elected, but end up as cabinet ministers! Oreagan an Miller jump out and, of course, Butts is lurking in the background. I wonder how many of the leftovers have lucrative federal positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Anyone know what the new Minister's credentials are? What does he bring to the role of "Transport Minister"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Nothing imo.....other than bringing the Toronto Muslim vote to the liberal side....he was a real mouthpiece when he was in opposition. Quote Nevertheless, higher Muslim voter turnout could make a significant difference not only in ridings with high Muslim populations such as Don Valley East and Mississauga Centre, but also in key ridings in Calgary and Edmonton, according to former Liberal MP Omar Alghabra. "I lost an election by 300 votes," says Alghabra, who represented the federal riding of Mississauga-Erindale from 2006-08. "I know from experience that every vote counts." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ontario-imams-urging-muslims-to-vote-in-federal-election-1.3019734 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airband Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 40 minutes ago, Malcolm said: What does he bring to the role of "Transport Minister"? A good judge of character? Quote He said his job can also be rewarding, though, especially when complicated cases are resolved. For instance, he pointed to the recent release of Canadian Joshua Boyle, his American wife Caitlan Coleman and their three young children by militants affiliated with the Taliban. The couple was captured by the terror group in Afghanistan in 2012 and spent five years in captivity. The family was rescued near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in October. Mr. Alghabra was actively involved in the case and was notified of the rescue plan the night before it took place. The family is now safely back in Mr. Boyle's hometown of Smiths Falls, Ont. Joshua Boyle attempts to flee court after officer recounts arrest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobcaygeon Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Garneau is not planning to run again and will retire. Trudeau indicated he wants cabinet ministers that will be involved long term. Nothing more than that. We may not agree on Garneau's actions but when he did pick a mission, good or bad depending on your position, he got it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudder Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bobcaygeon said: Garneau is not planning to run again and will retire. Trudeau indicated he wants cabinet ministers that will be involved long term. Nothing more than that. We may not agree on Garneau's actions but when he did pick a mission, good or bad depending on your position, he got it done. Garneau was given Foreign Affairs. Also a Cabinet portfolio. He sounds quite excited about it. He is not retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Malcolm said: Anyone know what the new Minister's credentials are? He is from a minority ethnicity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fido said: He is from a minority ethnicity And an immigrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 He has been a special advisor to cabinet on the Ukraine Air disaster. He's an engineer with two Canadian university degrees, one in engineering if I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Thanks Dagger, nice to get some non biased information. I did more of search than initially and found: Alghabra moved to Toronto when he was 19 years old to attend school. He attended grade 13 to obtain his Canadian high school diploma. Later, he completed his Bachelor of Engineering at Ryerson University.[7] Alghabra also attended York University, where he graduated with a Master of Business Administration Omar Alghabra - Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Quote He has been a special advisor to cabinet on the Ukraine Air disaster. Being the devils advocate, and he may have a degree in engineering, but I think his capacity more likely as a government representative for the Muslim community. https://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/flightps752/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Interesting that people associate race, religion and ethnic origin with Qualifications for a position. I am more concerned that yet another MBA will be making decisions. MBA's to date in aviation have a poor track record. Thank you Dagger and Malcom for a proper response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinair Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 1 hour ago, boestar said: Interesting that people associate race, religion and ethnic origin with Qualifications for a position. I am more concerned that yet another MBA will be making decisions. MBA's to date in aviation have a poor track record. Thank you Dagger and Malcom for a proper response Putting political correctness aside. Race, religion and ethnic origin absolutely have an effect on one’s qualifications. These things influence decisions that a politicians/ people make everyday, but doesn’t mean that they are or aren’t “qualified”. In the Liberal party if you are a MP under Trudeau and you told him “ I am a born again Christian and I am pro life (anti-abortion)”, you would definitely not be a cabinet minister and likely not be able to run again as a Liberal. You certainly would not qualify for government funding. Regardless he can’t do any worse than Garneau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Quote Interesting that people associate race, religion and ethnic origin with Qualifications for a position To look at it in another, more general context.....I am not disputing the individuals academic or professional qualifications, I am merely indicating the symbology this government seems to run on. It is not about putting competent people in positions, but more what the individual represents..... remember it’s 2015. Take for example our Minister of National Revenue......Dianne Lebouthillier......”Prior to her career in politics, she was a local social worker, managing clients out of the Rocher Percé Health and Social Services Centre in Chandler. She worked with long-time MNA Georges Mamelonet on social service issues in the region. ” Or our Minister of Natural Resources......Seamus Oreagan “In 2000, O'Regan joined talktv's current affairs program, the chatroom. He began his duties at Canada AM on December 19, 2001. On November 8, 2011, he announced that he would be leaving Canada AM on November 24, 2011 to become a correspondent for CTV National News.[1] O'Regan left CTV in 2012.[“ Since leaving CTV he has occasionally been a fill-in host on radio station CFRB in Toronto,[6] and worked on independent television productions and as a media innovator in residence at Ryerson University.[6][7 The previous House Leader......Bardish Chagger....”Chagger graduated from the University of Waterloo with a bachelor's degree in science.[6] After Telegedi's defeat in 2008, Chagger became a director of special events for the Kitchener-Waterloo Multicultural Centre.[6]” The Minister of Fisheries and Oceans....Bernadette Jordan..”From 2006 to 2014, Jordan worked as a development officer for the Health Services Foundation of the South Shore, where she was in charge of organizing fund raising events for health services foundation.” There have been some decent appointments in cabinet, but if race, sex, or ethnic origin is all that is in your cv, how else do you justify the appointment? I will admit that the Transport Minister’s credentials are above average, he has accomplished a lot behind the scenes. I hope he will be a benefit to the portfolio (I stand corrected) and be more effective than Garneau. But I still think he is a mouthpiece. I think trudeaus talent pool is starting to run dry. Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 15 hours ago, st27 said: Being the devils advocate, and he may have a degree in engineering, but I think his capacity more likely as a government representative for the Muslim community. https://www.cbc.ca/news2/interactives/flightps752/ You mean your MP doesn't reflect your most likely majority white community? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Having seen the inner workings of the management structure of TC, I'm much more concerned with a Minister's ability to lead a department than I am with their technical expertise vis-a-vis the particular portfolio. In my 5 years, I saw very good and really bad. Technical know how had nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Fair enough Dagger, and looking at Mr Algabra’s bio, he should fit well into the Transport role. My opinion of the guy was based on previous impressions when he was an MP in opposition. I still stand by my position of MPs placed into cabinet roles where they have little or no work experience......can’t wait to see where Trudeau places newly elected Olympic paddler, Adam van koeverden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, J.O. said: Having seen the inner workings of the management structure of TC, I'm much more concerned with a Minister's ability to lead a department than I am with their technical expertise vis-a-vis the particular portfolio. In my 5 years, I saw very good and really bad. Technical know how had nothing to do with it. True in the aviation industry as far as flight crews go as well. I have flown with pilots who knew the manuals inside and out but as far as leading/handling a crew........... were next to useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, st27 said: I still stand by my position of MPs placed into cabinet roles where they have little or no work experience......can’t wait to see where Trudeau places newly elected Olympic paddler, Adam van koeverden. I can count on one hand the number of transport ministers in my lifetime who've had a background in any one of the modes they oversee, never mind all of them (air, rail, shipping, pipelines and TDG in all modes). You'd be lucky to find even one sitting member in each government who has a pilot's licence. They have technical staff for a reason - to advise them and keep them informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 By work experience, I didn’t mean experience in the field of the cabinet.. I meant just having A job or high level management/business experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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