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Support for Black Lives Matter has decreased since June but remains strong among Black Americans

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By Deja Thomas and Juliana Menasce Horowitz

As racial justice protests have intensified following the shooting of Jacob Blake, public support for the Black Lives Matter movement has declined, according to a new Pew Research Center survey. A majority of U.S. adults (55%) now express at least some support for the movement, down from 67% in June amid nationwide demonstrations sparked by the death of George Floyd. The share who say they strongly support the movement stands at 29%, down from 38% three months ago.

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The Black Lives Matter movement has been back in the spotlight due to this summer’s protests. The new survey findings come as confrontations between protesters and police have escalated in some cities and as President Donald Trump has stepped up his criticism of the movement.

The recent decline in support for the Black Lives Matter movement is particularly notable among White and Hispanic adults. In June, a majority of White adults (60%) said they supported the movement at least somewhat; now, fewer than half (45%) express at least some support. The share of Hispanic adults who support the movement has decreased 11 percentage points, from 77% in June to 66% today. By comparison, support for the Black Lives Matter movement has remained virtually unchanged among Black and Asian adults.

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Come on now Jaydee, be nice.  The worst thing of all is to surround yourself with people who think exactly the same as you - you're guaranteed to never grow.  Are you completely right in everything yo

Hey Mitch; I have to ask; what is your reason for posting this?  Do black lives matter?  Of course they do but the phrase/slogan "Black Lives Matter! is a political statement intended to either;

Yep. Black lives matter. That phrase is used (by me and, as I understand it, by most others) because it's black people who are being discriminated against, systemically, in such a manner that their ve

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WaPo Buries News BLM Supporter Tied to Gov. Whitmer Kidnap Plot

The far-left Washington Post buried the news one of the alleged plotters in the scheme to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) is a Black Lives Matter supporter.

 

You have to trudge through more than a dozen paragraphs to find this:

One of alleged plotters, 23-year-old Daniel Harris, attended a Black Lives Matter protest in June, telling the Oakland County Times he was upset about the killing of George Floyd and police violence.

But-but-but I was told by the media, Joe Biden, and Whitmer all the plotters are right-wing, racist, militia men inspired by Donald Trump!!!

Well, like everything else the national media and Democrats tell us, that was just one more big, fat f....g lie.

So among the alleged plotters, we can add Daniel Harris (pictured) to the list of those who do not fit the fake news media’s fake narrative about the whys and wherefores behind this appalling plot.

Wait, there’s more…

Also on that list of accused plotters is Brandon Caserta, who you can watch rail against Trump here. Please note Caserta’s anarchist flag and phrases like Trump “is a tyrant!”

Wait, there’s more…

And then there’s accused plotter Pete Musico, who you can watch speak out in favor of racial harmony as he attacks the police here.

Wait, there’s a whole lot more…

Another fairly important piece of information, this time about all of the alleged plotters, is wrist-flicked by fake news artists at the Washington Post: [emphasis added]

As their anger mounted, they trained together with firearms and experimented with explosives, discussing plans to storm the state capitol building and attack police officers in their homes, authorities said.

“Attack police officers in their homes?”

ATTACK POLICE OFFICERS IN THEIR HOMES!?

Does that sound to you anything like a militant group of MAGAMEN taking subliminal orders from Trump’s secret dog whistle?

Who does that sound like?

Close your eyes and picture the words “attack police officers in their homes” and what do you see? You know what you see… You see the left-wing terrorists in Antifa and Black Lives Matter… It’s all two sides of the same coin.

Finally, let me say this…

One of the most dishonest conceits the media hang their hat on to pretend this alleged plot to kidnap Whitmer was some sort of dastardly MAGA plot is that some of the alleged plotters are in favor of less government.

Uhm…

Well…

Guess who’s in favor of less government…?

I mean, a lot less government…?

As in no government at all…?

Anarchists!

That’s right, left-wing anarchists want zero government, which is why the left-wing anarchists in Portland and elsewhere are attacking police and government facilities.

Overall, 13 people have been charged in some capacity with this plot, and we now know — according to the actual charging documents — that they stand accused of wanting to attack police officers in their homes, which is anathema to everything Donald Trump has stood for throughout his presidency and stands for now as the left wreak havoc across the country with the blessing of the national media and Democrats.

And we all know who is in favor of attacking the police, who is inspiring all of this hatred and violence against the police —  Democrat politicians like Whitmer and Biden, and media outlets like the Washington Post.

So when the media and Biden and Whitmer tell you Trump inspired this, that’s a lie.

But you already knew that.

 

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On 9/15/2020 at 1:41 PM, deicer said:

 

What would the situation be if the blacks weren't abused as slaves in the first place?

 

I wonder if De-icer will actually take the time to listen to this full video and give us his analysis. Of course, if we were to get an analysis, it would likely be to attack the person instead of discussing the subject. Which is why he is a fraud.

Well, at least the rest of you can listen in. It starts off slow with you not realizing what the overall message will be and builds up slowly but surely to the harsh truth.

 

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4 minutes ago, deicer said:

First you get your opinions from drug addicts, now it's professional purveyors of fake news...

https://www.politifact.com/personalities/candace-owens/

Nothing has changed from your previous iteration.

Get help.

 

I knew De-icer wouldn't discuss the policy. Because he is a fraud.

That's OK folks, just watch the video and you will see that he was putting forth fraudulant information right from the beginning. Because he wants your money.

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35 minutes ago, JDunkin said:

I knew De-icer wouldn't discuss the policy. Because he is a fraud.

That's OK folks, just watch the video and you will see that he was putting forth fraudulant information right from the beginning. Because he wants your money.

I would discuss policy with you, and I have tried, however, you need to start getting facts and opinions from reliable, verifiable sources.

That's why I post the links about your sources I do, they show that they are fake.

Care to try again?  Or just name call?

Like last time, you aren't interested in actual facts are you?  You just keep trying to get under my skin because of whatever shortcomings you have that are driving you nuts.

Please get help.

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33 minutes ago, deicer said:

I would discuss policy with you, and I have tried, however, you need to start getting facts and opinions from reliable, verifiable sources.

That's why I post the links about your sources I do, they show that they are fake.

Care to try again?  Or just name call?

Like last time, you aren't interested in actual facts are you?  You just keep trying to get under my skin because of whatever shortcomings you have that are driving you nuts.

Please get help.

Well please show what was fake in the video. Tell us more about the history of slavery if you like. Actually, it was doe for you in the video. Watch it again folks. It of course, is the reality I have known for a long time, but frauds like De-icer don't want you to know the harsh truth. They want to use snippets for their own advantage.

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On 8/1/2020 at 7:46 AM, deicer said:

Now that trump has seen that using the gestapo was working against him, they have been pulled back in Portland, yet the protests continue..... peacefully.

 

Here is the result of De-icers peaceful world. A world that will come to you if he gets his way.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8640497/Portland-companies-plan-downtown-offices-BLM-protests-area-unsafe.html

Multiple Portland companies plan to move out of downtown office spaces because ongoing BLM protests have made the area 'unsafe' - with reports of widespread vandalism and 'workers being attacked'

  • Activists in Portland have taken to the city streets for the last 82 consecutive nights to demonstrate under the banner of Black Lives Matter
  • However, some of the rallies have descended into chaos, resulting in violent clashes with police or widespread acts of vandalism 
  • Businesses in the area now say the perpetual disruptions have caused ‘unsafe conditions’ in the neighborhood – and they want out
  • Standard Insurance, whose headquarters  are at 900 SW 5th Avenue, say their buildings have been vandalized and many workers assaulted in recent months
  • The company has now removed all staff from the area. Many employees had already been relocated because of the on-going pandemic 
  • Standard says the removal of its workforce from the area is likely temporary but he’s unsure how many workers will return to the company’s downtown locations
  • A spokesperson said they will return 'if conditions in the neighborhood improve' 
  • A number of companies based in downtown Portland are set to vacate or sell their offices because on-going protests in the city against police brutality have led to 'unsafe' conditions in the area, reports suggest. Activists have taken to the city streets for the last 82 consecutive nights to demonstrate under the banner of Black Lives Matter, but some of the rallies have descended into chaos, resulting in violent clashes with police or widespread acts of vandalism.
  • The protests were spurred by the Memorial Day police killing of George Floyd in Minnesota, and other examples of cop brutality across the US.

    But businesses in the area now say the perpetual disruptions have caused ‘unsafe conditions’ in the neighborhood – and they want out.

    Standard Insurance, whose headquarters at 900 SW 5th Avenue is a key part of downtown Portland’s cityscape, have removed the last of their 2,100 employees from the center and have relocated them to their office in Hillsboro.

    ‘Our downtown properties have sustained significant vandalism and a number of employees and contractors have been assaulted in recent months,’ Standard Insurance's community relations senior director Bob Speltz told KGW.

    n the long-term, Standard Insurance says it’s exploring more permanent remote and alternative work options.

    Speltz says the removal of its workforce from the area is likely temporary but he’s unsure how many workers will return to the company’s downtown locations.

    The majority of its 2,100 workers had already been working from because of the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, Speltz said.

    ‘We remain committed to the downtown core,’ Speltz continued, ‘assuming conditions in the neighborhood improve.’

    While the future of Standard’s Portland buildings remain unclear, numerous business owners in the area spoke out last month about how they were losing massive amounts of money due to the demonstrations and may also have to consider relocating.

    The protests, combined with the pandemic, was found to have caused several million dollars in either damage or lost revenue, a survey  administered by the Portland Business Alliance found.

    One of the responding businesses reported losses of more than $20 million alone. The company wasn't named in the findings, however the staggering number is said to still be growing.

    'The financial consequences to the downtown corridor are a running calculation that is almost impossible to wrap your mind around. The financial impacts of physical damage is one thing, and that continues to increase,' the organization’s president and CEO, Andrew Hoan, said in July. 'Then the ongoing loss of revenue to the business community who cannot operate their places of businesses is also a number that continues to rise.'

    Business owners said the continued clashes in the city, particularly in front of the federal courthouse, are affecting profits and their sense of safety.

    'Safety-wise, we’re just concerned. Our employees are a little bit nervous being here, especially later in the evenings. We try to have extra people just to make sure that everybody is safe and feels comfortable,' Stacey Gibson, a Subway franchise owner, told KATU

  • Though Gibson said she supports the protests' aims, she said the late-night violence and destruction make it tough to operate a business in the area.

    'We just need to find some sort of a peaceful resolution and resolve it so we can all open back up and just deal with the COVID situation,' Gibson said.

    Hoan said a number of business have already left downtown, though the exact number is not known. 

    'We are aware that it is happening. Businesses are leaving,' Hoan said. 'We need to start to turn the corner now, so that this sort of irreparable damage does not last.'

    Hoan told KATU the boarded up business make it seem as if the area is closed and unsafe, which isn't helping matters. 

    'You have blocks and blocks of plywood. You have graffiti. You have an accumulation of damages that are un-repaired, an ongoing perception that coming downtown is not a safe place,' he added.

    Other companies, such as non-profit OCHIN, announced plans this week to permanently leave the area – but deny the protests have anything to do with the decision.

    OCHIN announced on Friday that it would be putting its 40,200 square-foot office at 1881 SW Naito Parkway on the market on August 27. The company purchased the property for $14 million just three years ago.

  • No one was arrested during Monday’s demonstration, but the weekend was marred with violence.

    The sickening moment a truck driver was kicked unconscious by protesters who chased after his vehicle, causing him to crash onto a side walk was captured on Sunday night.

    Just blocks away from a black rights demonstration in Oregon's capital, demonstrators hauled a man out of his truck after he crashed it into a tree.

    Driver is kicked unconscious in Portland Street during BLM protests
     
     
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rev·o·lu·tion
/ˌrevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
 
  1. 1.
    a forcible overthrow of a government or social order, in favor of a new system.
     
    Trump has brought this upon the United States.  It was how the country was created, and it has happened many times since.  As always, the ruling class doesn't like it.  What can you expect from a country that was formed from the genocide of indigenous peoples and built by slaves that are still being abused. 
     
    Before you read what I suggest below, I will leave you with these George Santayana quotes:
     
    Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
     
    Only the dead have seen the end of the war.
     
    A child educated only at school is an uneducated child.
     
    The earth has music for those who listen.
     
    History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
     
    Fanaticism consists of redoubling your effort when you have forgotten your aim.
     
    There is no cure for birth and death save to enjoy the interval.
     
    The family is one of nature's masterpieces.
     
    Sanity is a madness put to good use.
     
    The wisest mind has something yet to learn.
     
    Racial violence has been a staple in the U.S. since 1660 as per this article:
     
     
    The last  article highlights pretty clearly where the United States currently is and I copied and pasted for clarity.  Last paragraph emphasis is mine.
     
     
     
     

    What brings about a revolution?

    Of course, every revolution is unique and comparisons between them do not always yield useful insights. But there are a few criteria we identify in hindsight that are usually present in revolutionary explosions.

    First, there’s tremendous economic inequality.

    Second, there’s a deep conviction that the ruling classes serve only themselves at the expense of everyone else, undermining the belief that these inequalities will ever be addressed by the political elite.

    Third, and somewhat in response to these, there is the rise of political alternatives that were barely acceptable in the margins of society before.

    The coming of a revolution

    Before most major revolutions, there’s a substantial increase in the number of protests. Populations display their displeasure and voice their grievances via marches, petitions and protests.

    If their concerns remain unaddressed, these protests become more extreme: petitions become strikes, marches become violent uprisings. Resistance becomes a daily fact of life and political organization commonplace.

    Once the population is convinced that the system is not working, and their grievances will remain unheard, then almost anything can set off a political explosion.

    Really? A revolution in the U.S.?

    The United States is displaying all of the above characteristics. The country is experiencing tremendous levels of economic inequality that’s worsening according to every meaningful measurement.

    The New York Times writes about the “broken economy,” The Atlantic notes the “toxic class divide” that is “fast becoming unbridgeable,” and the Intelligencer calls recent data released by the Federal Reserve “a damning indictment of capitalism.”

    Compared to the previous decade, Americans are working much more for much less pay, and they’re paying substantially more for their basic necessities. Even Fox News is having a hard time spinning the fact the more Americans than ever need to hold multiple jobs, a full-time job and part-time employment on top of that, just to make ends meet.

    While the devastation visited upon the working class by the 2008 recession is far from remedied, economists are already forecasting a new recession.

    These would be troubling signs in a country where trust in political authority is strong. In the U.S., that’s not the case.

    There has been a substantial loss of faith in the political authority. Trust in the political system is at an all-time low, and Americans also seem to have lost faith in politicians, even the rare few they believe mean well.

    Biggest protests

    Meanwhile, the last few years have seen the largest protests in the country’s history. And few of the issues that have spurred the protests, from Occupy Wall Street to the Women’s March and March For Our Lives, have been addressed. In fact, the situations that gave rise to them have either continued or worsened.

    Law enforcement, for decades plagued with justified accusations of systemic racism, is for the first time experiencing difficulties hiring and retaining new officers.

    And the gap between law enforcement and the people goes beyond just a lack of trust — there is now a diminishing faith in the ability and neutrality of law enforcement agencies.

    When that happens, people start arming themselves explicitly against the state. All the while, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency is building facilities to train its officers for urban warfare.

    In response to the crises, political movements that would have been unimaginable a decade ago are rapidly, and rather visibly, rising.

    Fascism on display

    Though the U.S. system was never free of its racist and colonial roots, the last time fascism has been this prominent in the country was the brief period before the Second World War.

    But this time, it’s the government condoning fascist marches and openly deliberating whether anti-fascism is terrorism.

    It’s accompanied by a general sense of alienation from and revulsion with capitalism by Americans.

    Could a U.S. revolution be a good thing?

    No. Revolutions are never good things to live through; they bring conflict and war, pain, suffering and hunger, and plunge the country into political instability for decades.

    But also: Yes.

    Almost all political rights citizens enjoy and all the protections they have from the arbitrary use of political authority are results of past revolutions.

    And sometimes political systems remain so far behind political consciousness that revolutions become the only way to catch up.

    In places with longstanding political culture and institutions, where organized political movements engage in politics without using weapons, revolutions can be relatively better-controlled without spiralling into total chaos.

    Tunisia, for example, emerged from the Arab Spring and its political revolution unscathed. It was also the only Arab Spring country with longstanding political institutions that took charge of the process. Those four institutions later received the Nobel Peace Prize for protecting the country from absolute chaos.

    In the U.S., it’s clear the system is not working for the good of all. There are still numerous possibilities and different ways events can unfold. But unless these systemic failures are addressed soon, political scientists of the future will be explaining how a societal explosion in the U.S. became inevitable.

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37 minutes ago, deicer said:
 
  1. In the U.S., it’s clear the system is not working for the good of all. There are still numerous possibilities and different ways events can unfold. But unless these systemic failures are addressed soon, political scientists of the future will be explaining how a societal explosion in the U.S. became inevitable.

That is because some people, as we all know, can't be happy with the choices they have made in life and the limited financial outlook they have created for themselves. They want more, from those who made good life decisions, sacrificed and created their own well to do financial situation.

If a group of people refuse to study at school, play hockey all day instead in the expectation that they will become a multi-millionaire superstar(even though it only happens to 0.01% of those who try), end up with little chance of much more than a minimum wage job and then somehow expect to slide in ahead of others at the high paying jobs which took massive time and effort to qualify for, those who responsibly worked and studied hard start saying: NO WAY.

The system works for responsible people. The irresponsible ones want a free ride.

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52 minutes ago, deicer said:
 
  1. Could a U.S. revolution be a good thing?

    No. Revolutions are never good things to live through; they bring conflict and war, pain, suffering and hunger, and plunge the country into political instability for decades.

    But also: Yes.

     

And now de-icer is posting about what I said he was all about, wanting a revolution. My guess is, not because he cares one bit about black lives, but because he wants your money and that of his hated bosses who own the company.

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1 hour ago, JDunkin said:

And now de-icer is posting about what I said he was all about, wanting a revolution. My guess is, not because he cares one bit about black lives, but because he wants your money and that of his hated bosses who own the company.

History repeats itself.

Once again, statements without fact.

How many times a troll is this?

You have once again shown statements that you are for violence, as long as it's against 'lefties'.  That is not right from anyone.

I try to put up intellectual material for discussion, yet you refuse to accept that maybe I am trying to engage intellectually with you and you continue the slander and behave as the troll.

You really do need help.

And once you go back under your rock again, you will show up under another name and continue the game.  

WOXOF, DEFCON, JDunkin, what will the next pseudonym be?

 

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1 hour ago, JDunkin said:

wanting a revolution.

The deicers of the world stand in danger of getting exactly what they are asking for. It's a grave mistake to think this all goes away if Biden wins the WH. Up the violence a bit with IEDs, targeted shootings (etc... long list) and the reprisal attacks start; at that point it doesn't matter who wins the WH. The danger for political parties (of all stripes) is thinking they have control over their own extremist entities. 

You can't tell where people have been based on their posts.... but you can sure as hell tell where they haven't been.

 

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32 minutes ago, deicer said:

You have once again shown statements that you are for violence, as long as it's against 'lefties'.  That is not right from anyone.

 

 

Feel free to show me where.

Oh wait a minute, the self defense case will be the answer. As if you wouldn't defend yourself if a bunch of rioting hoodlums attacked you(all of which turned out to be career criminals, as if that surprised anybody).

Any more article saying that revolution is good that you have to post. 

We know what you are all about De-icer.

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On 6/23/2020 at 1:35 AM, seeker said:

You'll have to excuse me for wondering if this actually really happened or if it has been faked and/or exaggerated.

Maybe this is another Jussie Smollet or another Toronto Hijab girl?  Maybe a scrap of rope was found lying in the corner and it was framed as "a noose" for the sensational story aspect.

This is more common than you might think: https://nypost.com/2019/10/03/why-we-keep-falling-for-hate-crime-hoaxes/

Could it have been an actual noose, an actual hate crime?  Yes, of course but based on my experience I'm leaning toward fake.  Even if a noose really was found I think it's quite likely to have been placed there by someone who wants a false flag event.

 

 

Any surprise that you were correct.

And here is the latest fraud worthy of starting another revolution based on fraud:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7462265/Police-Georgia-man-faked-racially-motivated-burglary.html

Ex-Tampa Bay Buccaneers NFL player, 31, is charged with trashing two of his own restaurants and spraying the N-word and MAGA on the walls to make it look like a  hate crime so he could collect insurance money.

Funny, the fake news mainstream media that likes to provide coverage of what seems like every little slight in a country of over 300 million people, isn't interested in this too much. Anyone want to guess why.

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Just as before your psychopathic side is coming out.

You stated your had/have a flying career.  It must be a real treat to share a cockpit with you. 

Where does your frustration come from?  Not making the left seat?  IF that was the case, no wonder why.

So please, keep making false accusations, keep taking things out of context to prove your perceived wrongs.

Like trump, you live in your own world and work only to benefit yourself at the expense of others.  Let us look through the window and amuse ourselves at your shenanigans. 

Or, get help.

 

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Just pointing out what we deal with every day. Being framed by Smollet, NASCAR drivers, ex football players, etc and the frauds like you that use these fake accusations to further your agenda to go after other people’s money.

Meanwhile Trump and his supporters brought unemployment in the community to record lows, put in low tax policies to encourage businesses to go into the communities and ended Joe Biden’s laws about prisons. 
 

You truly are a fraud with your fake double standard accusations.

 

The only thing you and the left have to offer is the endless drip drip of welfare payments.

For every shenanigan you post, I show what a fraud you are by posting the same from your side that you never mention.

Vote based on policy.

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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/george-floyd-protests-bail-funds-police-brutality-black-lives-matter-1008259/

This article has information on links for people like de-icer on how to bail out these criminals. 

Biden and Harris have voiced support for that. 

Vote based on policy and keep out the people who will look the other way when the brownshirts come for you.

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On 10/14/2020 at 7:00 PM, JDunkin said:

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/george-floyd-protests-bail-funds-police-brutality-black-lives-matter-1008259/

This article has information on links for people like de-icer on how to bail out these criminals. 

Biden and Harris have voiced support for that. 

Vote based on policy and keep out the people who will look the other way when the brownshirts come for you.

So once again you support trump who incites violence as long as it's against 'lefties'.

Talk about dog whistles for the white supremacists.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-trump-comments-perceived-encouraging-violence/story?id=48415766

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