FA@AC Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 https://time-to-travel.ca/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudder Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, FA@AC said: https://time-to-travel.ca/ Good luck with that. Remember that politicians and bureaucrats have not and will not miss a paycheque due to the COVID travel restrictions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specs Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 "We need the summer" is a beautiful theme and that by itself would have made an huge impression. Unfortunately the marketing types didn't stop there though and made a mess of the message. For example - Australia has not opened anything - in fact they don't see themselves opening their borders until 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Specs said: For example - Australia has not opened anything - in fact they don't see themselves opening their borders until 2021 I believe Australia and New Zealand are considering creating what they're calling a "travel bubble' initially. Our travel industry is probably lobbying for something along the same lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, rudder said: Good luck with that. Remember that politicians and bureaucrats have not and will not miss a paycheque due to the COVID travel restrictions. But their constituents will and opposition parties might start drawing attention to the fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted June 30, 2020 Author Share Posted June 30, 2020 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/quarantine-rules-extended-again-1.5631731 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrefplus5 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 https://business.financialpost.com/transportation/airlines/airlines-need-aid-or-ability-to-fly-to-escape-catastrophic-territory-air-canada-ceo-says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted July 1, 2020 Author Share Posted July 1, 2020 https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/commentary/article-why-its-time-to-safely-reopen-airlines/?fbclid=IwAR3pOHj0WLAxIYRrdiIwu3y3h_OAoH93lRnZAItmcPiPI8OWiurqSiHywWo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 National Airlines Council of Canada Requesting Sectoral Support for Canadian Carriers NEWS PROVIDED BY National Airlines Council of Canada Aug 20, 2020, 14:01 ET OTTAWA, ON, Aug. 20, 2020 /CNW Telbec/ - The National Airlines Council of Canada (NACC), which represents Canada's major air carriers (Air Canada, Air Transat, Jazz Aviation LP and WestJet), wrote today to Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland, congratulating her on her appointment and urgently requesting the development of a sectoral support plan for aviation. A copy of the letter is available at www.airlinecouncil.ca under Resources. "Our members look forward to working with Minister Freeland in her new responsibilities. While we would have preferred that our first letter to the Minister did not move immediately to policy requirements, the devastating impact of the pandemic on our industry, and the reality that there is no clear timeframe for when government will allow aviation to move forward, requires us to urgently look at sectoral support for airlines", said NACC President and CEO Mike McNaney. Over the past several months NACC members have worked diligently with federal and international aviation authorities to develop and implement global best practices to safely and responsibly re-start commercial aviation. Based on science-based and risk-based frameworks created by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), as well as the federal government's release of Flight Plan, Canada's major carriers continue to invest millions of dollars in new procedures and operating practices to protect the health of passengers and employees. Other jurisdictions globally have begun to safely restart their aviation sectors domestically, and on a targeted basis internationally, based on ICAO's work and their respective domestic plans. Canada however has chosen to remain at Stage Zero, and has not agreed to accept targeted international re-opening such as with the European Union, or achieve a consistent approach within Canada concerning quarantine and travel measures for domestic flights. "Canada's major carriers impact every sector of the economy, in every region of the country, in communities large and small. If aviation is to remain at Stage Zero for an indeterminate time period due to government policy, we need to begin work now on measures to sustain the industry. While the federal government has put forth non-sectoral support programs for all industries, those programs were not designed in the context of a specific industry remaining at Stage Zero, with no indication of when it can methodically re-open" concluded McNaney. The NACC's letter includes a series of principles it believes should be followed in developing a sectoral support program, including ensuring assistance does not distort the competitive landscape of the sector, and benchmarking against current programs in the European Union and United States. About the National Airlines Council of Canada: The National Airlines Council of Canada represents Canada's largest national and international passenger air carriers: Air Canada, Air Transat, Jazz Aviation LP and WestJet. It promotes safe, sustainable and competitive air travel by advocating for the development of policies, regulations and legislation to foster a world-class transportation system. Collectively, its member airlines carry over 80 million passengers annually, directly employ over 60,000 people and are a critical component of Canada's overall air transport and tourism sector which supports more than 630,000 jobs. SOURCE National Airlines Council of Canada For further information: For media requests, please contact: Francesca Iacurto, Senior Director, Public Affairs, National Airlines Council of Canada, Fiacurto@airlinecouncil.ca, Telephone: 613.231.7223 ext.104 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specs Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 I'm thinking of meeting with an employment lawyer in a few weeks just to understand some the possible outcomes for myself as this fiasco continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Obviously the Gov't is paralytic on this issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 The airline industry (and the thousands of jobs dependant) is like a bad relative...the libs don’t want to acknowledge it because it doesn’t benefit the green narrative they are getting ready to impose on us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FA@AC Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 5 hours ago, st27 said: The airline industry (and the thousands of jobs dependant) is like a bad relative...the libs don’t want to acknowledge it because it doesn’t benefit the green narrative they are getting ready to impose on us. What proposals to support the airline industry have the conservatives put forward? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, st27 said: The airline industry (and the thousands of jobs dependant) is like a bad relative...the libs don’t want to acknowledge it because it doesn’t benefit the green narrative they are getting ready to impose on us. I had a riveting conversation with a Quebec liberal apparatchik recently who firmly expressed the opinion that the volume of transatlantic flights that were operated pre-covid should never be allowed to resume. Curious as to why she singled out transatlantic flights she explained that the polar route was like taking an acetylene torch to the arctic ice and numerous disaster movie scenarios are imminent. Edited August 22, 2020 by Super 80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Super 80 said: I had a riveting conversation with a Quebec liberal apparatchik recently who firmly expressed the opinion that the volume of transatlantic flights that were operated pre-covid should never be allowed to resume. Curious as to why she singled out transatlantic flights she explained that the polar route was like taking an acetylene torch to the arctic ice and numerous disaster movie scenarios are imminent. Wow.... you meet interesting people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 Quote explained that the polar route was like taking an acetylene torch to the arctic ice a Did you explain to her that transatlantic flights seldom go near the polar routes? .if you want to affect polar routes, better stop a/c coming and going to China, and not just Air Canada’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, st27 said: Did you explain to her that transatlantic flights seldom go near the polar routes? .if you want to affect polar routes, better stop a/c coming and going to China, and not just Air Canada’s. or perhaps ban all flights north of 66.34° N, or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st27 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 But then they will just burn more fuel on less efficient routings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 1 hour ago, st27 said: But then they will just burn more fuel on less efficient routings! Problem we have is those who believe, seldom know anything about physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbofan Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 A few news outlets are reporting the CDC removed quarantine from their “After you travel” guidance on Friday. They say it was removed quietly but I’m wondering if it was simply an oversight. First link is to the CDC website and in fact does not list quarantine after returning from travel. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/travel-during-covid19.html Regardless of where you traveled or what you did during your trip, take these actions to protect others from getting sick after you return: When around others, stay at least 6 feet (about 2 arms’ length) from other people who are not from your household. It is important to do this everywhere, both indoors and outdoors. Wear a mask to keep your nose and mouth covered when you are outside of your home. Wash your hands often or use hand sanitizer (with at least 60% alcohol). Watch your health and look for symptoms of COVID-19. Take your temperature if you feel sick. https://www.afar.com/magazine/should-you-quarantine-after-traveling-the-cdc-now-says-you-dont-have-to https://www.travelpulse.com/news/impacting-travel/cdc-quietly-drops-recommendation-for-14-day-quarantine-after-traveling.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, st27 said: Did you explain to her that transatlantic flights seldom go near the polar routes? .if you want to affect polar routes, better stop a/c coming and going to China, and not just Air Canada’s. No and you wouldn't have either. I couldn't convince her that oil from Alberta is being refined in the US and that fracking has been around for as long as oil wells have been. I also couldn't convince her that the super-heavy train sets operated by VIA Rail and Amtrak are obscenely inefficient. Edited August 23, 2020 by Super 80 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagger Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 The three pilot unions - Unifor, ALPA and ACPA - to hold a joint press conference tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, dagger said: The three pilot unions - Unifor, ALPA and ACPA - to hold a joint press conference tomorrow morning. For what purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, conehead said: For what purpose? Cry, complain or maybe... maybe threaten to shut down the system until such time as the feds loosen the rules so as to allow airlines to operate. Never of course or ?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 The world would not come to an end if all modes of international and domestic travel was shackled for a few months. I can understand the Unions wanting to get back in the air but their reasons are all leaning to their own cause.......salaries for work. Personally I would like to see the US border closed to at least the end of the summer in 2021 with strictly ENFORCED regulations. Buddy of mine saw three cars in the WG area with California licence plates. (Don't know if they were reported and checked or not). Until we, as Canadians, see almost ZERO cases reported up here, we should bite the bullet and do what is required to keep us all safe and get back to normal faster that any other country. The average age of Canadians is about 38-40 so a loss of the ability to fly anywhere for a couple of years should not be stressful whereas all retirees may have been saving to "see the world" and may have to forgo that dream and may NEVER go due to deteriorating health as time moves on. Also think about this.......42,000 Canadians gave their lives in WW2............. then for those of us that have been enjoying life here in the Great White North should not feel that reducing our activities due to low levels of $$$ should not consider this phase of our lives as an extreme hardship. PS...I wonder how AC is doing by adding $350.00 to ones ticket if you want a completely sanitized seat. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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