Will there be an Election 2020 in Canada?

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[Jaydee 1,718]

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Does federal NDP even have any relevance now?

 

• Calgary Sun
• 11 Oct 2020
• LORNE GUNTER lgunter@postmedia.com @sunlornegunter

CHARLIE ANGUS JAGMEET SINGH

What do we need an NDP for? I mean it.

At the moment, the New Democrats are acting like flunkies for the Liberals. They are doing the political equivalent of holding the Liberals' handbags, fetching them coffee and making sure their dry cleaning is picked up and their shoes polished.

I don't really fault the NDP for voting with the Liberals to approve last month's throne speech.

To be sure, the throne speech was awful. When it comes to expensive social and environmental schemes, the Libs were acting like hackers who just got hold of the credit card of everyone in the count r y and decided to add every bauble to their wish list.

The speech was more than 6,000 words of fluff and shiny objects — extremely expensive fluff and shiny objects — but it wasn't a budget or a controversial piece of legislation.

It wasn't even yet another Liberal ethics scandal.

The NDP can hardly be criticized, then, for not wanting to foist an election on Canadians less than a year after the last one just over a throne speech.

But voting with the Liberals to end Parliamentary investigation of the WE Charities was deplorable. And it had nothing to do with an election.

I don't know how Charlie Angus stomached that one.

Angus is the NDP MP for the vast northern Ontario riding of Timmins-james Bay. He is also his party's ethics critic.

From the earliest days of the WE scandal, Angus did as much as any MP to expose the depths of the Trudeau family's connections with WE.

How could he possibly have been okay with his party helping the Liberals pull the drapes over the WE scandal?

The New Democrats' capitulation in every Liberal action is merely handing the next election to the Grits.

If the federal New Democrats and their leader Jagmeet Singh keep playing buddy-buddy with the Trudeau Liberals, voters will soon begin asking what the point is of keeping the NDP around if every time they vote NDP they just end up with Liberal policies anyway.

If the NDP does not differ from the Liberals in at least a few meaningful ways, then a lot of NDP supporters will just decide to vote directly for Justin Trudeau's party instead.

We've seen this before, under Justin Trudeau's father.

Between 1972 and 1974, the Liberal minority government of Pierre Trudeau was similarly propped up by the NDP under David Lewis.

Then, too, the Liberals became even more left-wing than the NDP.

The NDP got real cozy with the Liberals on limiting foreign investment, expanding federal intrusion in provincial jurisdictions such as health and welfare, and raising taxes and adding regulations.

When rampant inflation created an economic crisis, the Liberals int roduced a budget they knew the NDP would never support.

The NDP forced an election in the middle of the crisis.

The Liberals convinced voters the election was the NDP'S fault and voters rewarded the Liberals with a majority and punished the NDP by slashing their caucus in half.

All of which makes the current NDP move to help the Liberals shutter the WE scandal even more puzzling.

With today's Liberals stealing every lefty policy in the book, the Trudeau government's utter disdain for ethics is one of the NDP'S only selling points — and they just voted that away.

Surprisingly, the crumbling of Canada's political left is also bad news for Conservatives.

With the Liberals consuming lots of air on the left of the spectrum, that leaves the Tories some room to grow towards the middle.

But Conservatives only win in Canada when there is vote-splitting on the left.

And with the NDP terrier wagging along behind the Liberal big dog, there's not much chance of that.

The New Democrats' capitulation

in every Liberal action

is merely handing the next election to the Grits

[Jaydee 1,718]

13 minutes ago, Malcolm said:

Does federal NDP even have any relevance now?

Short answer is yes imo. The NDP are simply another arm of the Liberal party now. It’s a proven fact ( from selling cars) that if you give people more than one choice the combined numbers will increase. Canada is now in a situation where a majority government is no longer needed as long as our resident idiot is willing to sell the country out to the pure socialists in our midst in order for him to maintain power. Until the country wakes up to the reality of what’s happening and give the Conservatives a clear mandate, Trudeau can rule forever with the NDP’s help. Rumour has it the Greens and NDP are in talks as well which will exacerbate the problem.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/a-green-ndp-merger-it-could-be-a-big-hit/amp/

Edited October 11, 2020 by Jaydee

[Jaydee 1,718]

Rumours galore out of Ottawa today re possible election. Trudeau forcing a confidence motion . Just listened to a feed from Michelle Rempel as she was scrambling back to Parliament from her hotel room.

 

The big question on everyone's mind. Will Jagmet suck up to Trudeau again or represent Canadians for a change?  

 

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by Jaydee

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Jaydee said:

Rumours galore out of Ottawa today re possible election. Trudeau forcing a confidence motion . Just listened to a feed from Michelle Rempel as she was scrambling back to Parliament from her hotel room.

 

The big question on everyone's mind. Will Jagmet suck up to Trudeau again or represent Canadians for a change?  

 

 

I suspect that the NDP will do whatever is in their (not ours) best interest and since they are mostly broke, they will side once again with the Liberals.   I hope I am wrong.

[Guest]

Once again the NDP, who now it seems have joined the Liberals in fact, not just in spirit, have voted with them today.

 

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Earlier today, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said that his party would not give Prime Minister Justin Trudeau an "excuse" to send Canadians to the polls in the middle of a global pandemic — signalling that Trudeau's government would survive today's confidence vote.

BULL. They continue to vote with the Liberals simply because the NDP is broke and can not afford an election and they only give a damn about their party and not Canadian Voters.  Here is a link to the NDP party platform in which they make no mention of supporting the Liberals but they do claim to have the courage to do what is right.  

[Jaydee 1,718]

13 hours ago, Malcolm said:

Once again the NDP, who now it seems have joined the Liberals in fact, not just in spirit, have voted with them today.

 

BULL. They continue to vote with the Liberals simply because the NDP is broke and can not afford an election and they only give a damn about their party and not Canadian Voters.  Here is a link to the NDP party platform in which they make no mention of supporting the Liberals but they do claim to have the courage to do what is right.  

 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Jaydee said:

 

You forgot in your quote of what I posted to include what I was calling  BULL  so here it is:

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Earlier today, NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh said that his party would not give Prime Minister Justin Trudeau an "excuse" to send Canadians to the polls in the middle of a global pandemic — signalling that Trudeau's government

would survive today's confidence vote.

[Jaydee 1,718]

A sure sign of an impending election. From here on in everything will be Harper’s fault, even though after 6 years Trudeau has done SFA except bankrupt the country. And the sad part...Canadians will believe him.

Edited Monday at 12:27 PM by Jaydee

[Jaydee 1,718]

Justin losing in all provinces and all age groups. Watch the increased shift of blame away from his failures towards Harper and Otoole from now until Election Day.

 

https://abacusdata.ca/horserace-tightens-vaccines-rollout-canadian-politics-abacus-data/

Edited Monday at 01:06 PM by Jaydee

[st27 624]

I sadly feel that with all that Trudeau has gotten away with in his mandate, the vaccine roll out will become just a blip in people’s memory, and sockboy will fool them again. Since OToole doesn’t seem to be gaining traction with the voters, maybe he should step aside and let Leslyn Lewis run as leader. The libs wouldn’t be able to accuse the cons of being a party of racist, mysoginistic old white guys.  Just tokenism? 
I would love to see Trudeau try and debate the new leader...but, who am I kidding?? The debates never seem to come to real questions and answers... like question period they have become a farce.

[Jaydee 1,718]

11 minutes ago, st27 said:

Since OToole doesn’t seem to be gaining traction with the voters, maybe he should step aside and let Leslyn Lewis run as leader.

Though I voted for Otoole, I fully agree. Reason being was she was an unknown with no political experience.

The Liberal media has done a fantastic job of shining a disparaging light on Otoole. If a qualified female were elected as Leader, the MSM would have to tone down their rhetoric. Even more so since she’s black. Win /Win

[Jaydee 1,718]

[Falken 18]

On 10/11/2020 at 10:59 AM, Guest said:

Does federal NDP even have any relevance now?

 

• Calgary Sun
• 11 Oct 2020
• LORNE GUNTER lgunter@postmedia.com @sunlornegunter

CHARLIE ANGUS JAGMEET SINGH

What do we need an NDP for? I mean it.

At the moment, the New Democrats are acting like flunkies for the Liberals. They are doing the political equivalent of holding the Liberals' handbags, fetching them coffee and making sure their dry cleaning is picked up and their shoes polished.

I don't really fault the NDP for voting with the Liberals to approve last month's throne speech.

To be sure, the throne speech was awful. When it comes to expensive social and environmental schemes, the Libs were acting like hackers who just got hold of the credit card of everyone in the count r y and decided to add every bauble to their wish list.

The speech was more than 6,000 words of fluff and shiny objects — extremely expensive fluff and shiny objects — but it wasn't a budget or a controversial piece of legislation.

It wasn't even yet another Liberal ethics scandal.

The NDP can hardly be criticized, then, for not wanting to foist an election on Canadians less than a year after the last one just over a throne speech.

But voting with the Liberals to end Parliamentary investigation of the WE Charities was deplorable. And it had nothing to do with an election.

I don't know how Charlie Angus stomached that one.

Angus is the NDP MP for the vast northern Ontario riding of Timmins-james Bay. He is also his party's ethics critic.

From the earliest days of the WE scandal, Angus did as much as any MP to expose the depths of the Trudeau family's connections with WE.

How could he possibly have been okay with his party helping the Liberals pull the drapes over the WE scandal?

The New Democrats' capitulation in every Liberal action is merely handing the next election to the Grits.

If the federal New Democrats and their leader Jagmeet Singh keep playing buddy-buddy with the Trudeau Liberals, voters will soon begin asking what the point is of keeping the NDP around if every time they vote NDP they just end up with Liberal policies anyway.

If the NDP does not differ from the Liberals in at least a few meaningful ways, then a lot of NDP supporters will just decide to vote directly for Justin Trudeau's party instead.

We've seen this before, under Justin Trudeau's father.

Between 1972 and 1974, the Liberal minority government of Pierre Trudeau was similarly propped up by the NDP under David Lewis.

Then, too, the Liberals became even more left-wing than the NDP.

The NDP got real cozy with the Liberals on limiting foreign investment, expanding federal intrusion in provincial jurisdictions such as health and welfare, and raising taxes and adding regulations.

When rampant inflation created an economic crisis, the Liberals int roduced a budget they knew the NDP would never support.

The NDP forced an election in the middle of the crisis.

The Liberals convinced voters the election was the NDP'S fault and voters rewarded the Liberals with a majority and punished the NDP by slashing their caucus in half.

All of which makes the current NDP move to help the Liberals shutter the WE scandal even more puzzling.

With today's Liberals stealing every lefty policy in the book, the Trudeau government's utter disdain for ethics is one of the NDP'S only selling points — and they just voted that away.

Surprisingly, the crumbling of Canada's political left is also bad news for Conservatives.

With the Liberals consuming lots of air on the left of the spectrum, that leaves the Tories some room to grow towards the middle.

But Conservatives only win in Canada when there is vote-splitting on the left.

And with the NDP terrier wagging along behind the Liberal big dog, there's not much chance of that.

The New Democrats' capitulation

in every Liberal action

is merely handing the next election to the Grits

I like Carlie and listen to him during question period.

[Falken 18]

Just now, Falken said:

I like Carlie and listen to him during question period.

 

[Kargokings 39]

NDP will not trigger election as long as pandemic continues: Singh

40 mins ago

OTTAWA — NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh says he will not trigger an election as long as the COVID-19 pandemic persists.

a man holding a microphone© Provided by The Canadian Press
Singh said he will stand by his pledge to prop up the Liberal minority government on confidence votes regardless of whether it backed an NDP private member's bill to enshrine a universal pharmacare program in legislation Wednesday afternoon.
The bill failed to pass second reading in the hybrid House of Commons, with the Liberals, Conservatives and Bloc Québécois voting against it in a vote of 295-32.

The government is expected within the next couple months to table a federal budget, which would trigger an election if related legislation fails to garner support from at least one major opposition party.

"We do not think it's the right thing to do to go to an election while we should be fighting the pandemic. We are not going to trigger an election. So that means any confidence vote," Singh told reporters at a press conference Wednesday.

"We will vote to keep the government going."

All parties say they seek to avoid an election while the virus cuts a swath across the country. At the same time, all parties are gearing up for a possible campaign as they vet candidates and rev up fundraising efforts.

New Democrats had been hyping their proposed legislation on pharmacare — a key plank of any NDP campaign platform — in advance of a vote that wound up killing Bill C-213. Private member's bills, especially those introduced by opposition parties, rarely succeed.