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23 hours ago, Specs said:

Of course.  We all do.  I pay taxes to help keep those services running and I expect the services to be there when I need them.  Some folks incurred additional or unplanned expenses because those services were unavailable when we all paid for them to be there.   Shouldn't we be reimbursed when they are not?

   

But Specs....you didn't pay your federal income taxes with the expectation of going to the Courthouse on a specific date and for a specific purpose with the acceptance of your tax payment constituting an implied agreement by the governing authorities that your expectations would be met. But you already knew that when you posted. So why not simply acknowledge that one cannot reasonably defend an airline that takes money for a flight; cancels the flight; and, insists on keeping the money!!

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I really don't know why they don't mandate the return of the money. I received my money back from Delta easily and as the US and EU it's mandatory. When they cancel the service incompletely (ie Wabush) it's a pretty "dick" move to give only a credit. They are going to have to rebook on PAL id they want to fly and lots of people don't have the extra cash to have a credit and then book more tickets, especially in this economic crisis.They can always use the credit if they really want to but the flights are just a small cost of a "fun" trip. Going to see family in Wabush where you're staying with family is a very different financially than going on a lholiday.

There's some day it's clear this forum forgets that the average median after tax income is approx. $61K and that 53% of the population loves paycheque to paycheque. 

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On 7/12/2020 at 9:23 PM, UpperDeck said:

But Specs....you didn't pay your federal income taxes with the expectation of going to the Courthouse on a specific date and for a specific purpose with the acceptance of your tax payment constituting an implied agreement by the governing authorities that your expectations would be met. But you already knew that when you posted. So why not simply acknowledge that one cannot reasonably defend an airline that takes money for a flight; cancels the flight; and, insists on keeping the money!!

From what I've read I can't recall any airline out that willingly refunded customers money without being assured of, or actually receiving,  financial aid from their government.

And why should they?  We can't give John Q Public his money back because we'll probably go bankrupt if the Gov't doesn't at the very least give us the money we paid out beforehand to meet the operating requirements they (and in a sense John Q Public) stipulated for us to offer that service, and also compensate our shareholders for the losses they will sustain by taking away our ability to conduct business.  As it stands, would we even have enough to pay back all ticket holders or just a portion of them?  As far as I'm concerned - Ticketholders should go after the government to get their money back.  They are the ones that cancelled the flights.   

If they don't like it then they and the government go after us in court.  Oh wait...

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3 hours ago, Bobcaygeon said:

I really don't know why they don't mandate the return of the money. I received my money back from Delta easily and as the US and EU it's mandatory. When they cancel the service incompletely (ie Wabush) it's a pretty "dick" move to give only a credit. They are going to have to rebook on PAL id they want to fly and lots of people don't have the extra cash to have a credit and then book more tickets, especially in this economic crisis.They can always use the credit if they really want to but the flights are just a small cost of a "fun" trip. Going to see family in Wabush where you're staying with family is a very different financially than going on a lholiday.

There's some day it's clear this forum forgets that the average median after tax income is approx. $61K and that 53% of the population loves paycheque to paycheque. 

I’m not understanding 'average median'

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3 hours ago, Bobcaygeon said:

I received my money back from Delta easily

Was that before or after the pandemic started and then was it before or after the US govt let it be known that Airline specific aid was coming ($25 Billion through Sept 30 and they're now talking of $32 Bill for the next installment Oct 01 to ??) 

In the EU Lufthansa and Air France got Billions in government Aid as well.  Alitalia got aid recently.  The Govt of Portugal upped their stake in TAP to 72%.  I have lost track of how mch other countries are doing to support thie carriers.  The Canadian government has offered nothing remotely similar. 

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WestJet expands August schedule, updates July flying

From WESTJET, an Alberta Partnership 

Schedule highlights airline’s continued service to 39 Canadian cities from coast-to-coast

Airline’s stringent health and safety measures ensure Canadians can travel safely to 48 destinations

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CALGARY, AB, July 13, 2020 /CNW/ – WestJet today released its updated August schedule featuring more than 200 daily flights to 48 destinations across Canada, the United States, the Caribbean, Mexico and Europe. The schedule features service to 39 domestic airports and further highlights the airline’s commitment to ensuring air service and regional connectivity is available to Canadians from coast-to-coast.

The updated schedule is supported by the layered framework WestJet has built to ensure Canadians can continue to travel safely and responsibly through the airline’s Safety Above All hygiene program. The airline continues to provide flexibility in booking, change and cancellation policies for guests.

“With the many safeguards and procedures in place, we are certain Canadians can safely resume travel to destinations across our network,” said Arved von zur Muehlen, WestJet Chief Commercial Officer. “We continue to adapt our schedule to meet the needs of our guests and through our continued investments economies can begin to recover with the support of domestic tourism driven by air travel.”

Between July 15 through to September 4, 2020, WestJet will increase domestic frequencies and offer operations to 48 destinations including 39 in Canada, five in the U.S., two in Europe, one in the Caribbean, one in Mexico.

The airline will reintroduce non-stop Dreamliner service from Calgary to London (Gatwick) and Paris effective August 20, 2020 and will continue to serve five key transborder destinations including Atlanta, Las Vegas, Los Angeles, New York (LaGuardia) and Orlando. The airline will also offer service to Cancun, Mexico and will resume operations once-weekly to Montego Bay, Jamaica.

Continued von zur Muehlen, “Despite these headwinds, we are committed to ensuring air travel remains affordable and accessible to Canadians from coast-to-coast during this difficult time. While an increase in flying is a positive sign, we are prudently monitoring our guests loads to ensure we are managing our airline and the health of our guests and crew responsibly.”

The August schedule reflects approximately a 10 per cent increase in flying from July, but a decrease of 75 per cent less flying from August 2019. It also includes select frequency reductions and temporary domestic route suspensions between stations across Canada due to continued border closures and provincial travel restrictions.  

At this time, the airline is planning on operating the following domestic routes and frequencies from July 16 to September 4. The below frequencies represent peak service within this time frame:

ALBERTA AND NORTHWEST TERRITORIES

Calgary-Abbotsford 2x daily
Calgary-Comox 1x daily
Calgary-Cranbrook 4x weekly
Calgary-Fort St. John 2x daily
Calgary-Kamloops 1x daily
Calgary-Kelowna 3x daily
Calgary-Nanaimo 1x daily
Calgary-Penticton 1x daily
Calgary-Vancouver 7x daily
Calgary-Victoria 2x daily
Calgary-Edmonton 6x daily
Calgary-Fort McMurray 3x daily
Calgary-Grande Prairie 3x daily
Calgary-Lethbridge 3x weekly
Calgary-Lloydminster 2x weekly
Calgary-Medicine Hat 2x weekly
Calgary-Yellowknife 4x weekly
Calgary-Brandon 3x weekly
Calgary-Regina 3x daily
Calgary-Saskatoon 3x daily
Calgary-Winnipeg 3x daily
Calgary-Hamilton 4x weekly
Calgary-Kitchener/Waterloo 4x weekly
Calgary-Toronto 6x daily
Edmonton-Comox 2x weekly
Edmonton-Kelowna 6x weekly
Edmonton-Vancouver 3x daily
Edmonton-Victoria 1x daily
Edmonton-Calgary 6x daily
Edmonton-Fort McMurray 6x weekly
Edmonton-Grande Prairie 6x weekly
Edmonton-Regina 5x weekly
Edmonton-Saskatoon 6x weekly
Edmonton-Winnipeg 6x weekly
Edmonton-Toronto 3x daily
Fort McMurray-Calgary 3x daily
Fort McMurray-Edmonton 6x weekly
Grande Prairie-Calgary 3x daily
Grande Prairie-Edmonton 6x weekly
Lethbridge-Calgary 3x weekly
Lloydminster-Calgary 2x weekly
Medicine Hat-Calgary 2x weekly
Yellowknife-Calgary 4x weekly

BRITISH COLUMBIA AND YUKON

Abbotsford-Calgary 2x daily
Comox-Calgary 1x daily
Cranbrook-Calgary 4x weekly
Fort St John-Calgary 2x daily
Fort St John-Vancouver 4x weekly
Kamloops-Calgary 1x daily
Kelowna-Vancouver 1x daily
Kelowna-Calgary 3x daily
Kelowna-Edmonton 6x weekly
Nanaimo-Calgary 1x daily
Penticton-Calgary 1x daily
Prince George-Vancouver 3x daily
Terrace-Vancouver 1x daily
Vancouver-Kelowna 1x daily
Vancouver-Prince George 3x daily
Vancouver-Terrace 1x daily
Vancouver-Victoria 2x daily
Vancouver-Calgary 7x daily
Vancouver-Edmonton 3x daily
Vancouver-Winnipeg 6x weekly
Vancouver-Toronto 4x daily
Victoria-Vancouver 2x daily
Victoria-Calgary 2x daily
Victoria-Edmonton 1x daily

ONTARIO

Hamilton-Calgary 4x weekly
Kitchener/Waterloo-Calgary 4x weekly
London, ON-Toronto 6x weekly
Ottawa-Calgary 6x weekly
Ottawa-Toronto 4x daily
Ottawa-Halifax 2x weekly
Thunder Bay-Winnipeg 2x weekly
Thunder Bay-Toronto 6x weekly
Toronto-Vancouver 4x daily
Toronto-Calgary 6x daily
Toronto-Edmonton 3x daily
Toronto-Regina 3x weekly
Toronto-Saskatoon 3x weekly
Toronto-Winnipeg 3x daily
Toronto-London, ON 6x weekly
Toronto-Ottawa 4x daily
Toronto-Thunder Bay 4x weekly
Toronto-Montreal 4x daily
Toronto-Quebec City 4x weekly
Toronto-Charlottetown 6x weekly
Toronto-Deer Lake 4x weekly
Toronto-Fredericton 5x weekly
Toronto-Halifax 3x daily
Toronto-Moncton 5x weekly
Toronto-St. John’s (NL) 1x daily

SASKATCHEWAN AND MANITOBA

Brandon-Calgary 3x weekly
Regina-Calgary 3x daily
Regina-Edmonton 5x weekly
Regina-Toronto 3x weekly
Saskatoon-Calgary 3x daily
Saskatoon-Edmonton 6x weekly
Saskatoon-Winnipeg 2x weekly
Saskatoon-Toronto 3x weekly
Winnipeg-Vancouver 6x weekly
Winnipeg-Calgary 3x daily
Winnipeg-Edmonton 6x weekly
Winnipeg-Saskatoon 2x weekly
Winnipeg-Thunder Bay 2x weekly
Winnipeg-Toronto 3x daily

QUEBEC

Montreal-Calgary 6x weekly
Montreal-Toronto 4x daily
Quebec City-Toronto 4x weekly

ATLANTIC CANADA

Charlottetown-Toronto 6x weekly
Deer Lake-Toronto 4x weekly
Fredericton-Toronto 5x weekly
Halifax-Calgary 1x daily
Halifax-Ottawa 2x weekly
Halifax-Toronto 3x daily
Halifax- St. John’s (NL) 1x daily
Halifax-Sydney 2x weekly
Moncton-Toronto 5x weekly
St. John’s (NL)-Toronto 1x daily
St. John’s (NL)-Halifax 1x daily
Sydney-Halifax 2x weekly

At this time, the airline is planning on operating the following transborder and international routes from July 16 to September 4, 2020.

   
Market Planned frequency
Calgary – Los Angeles 3x weekly
Calgary – Las Vegas 2x weekly
Calgary – Atlanta 4x weekly
Calgary – London Gatwick 3 weekly effective August 20
Calgary – Paris 2x weekly effective August 20
Vancouver – Los Angeles 3x weekly
Toronto – LaGuardia 5x weekly
Toronto – Orlando 1x weekly
Toronto – Cancun 1x weekly
Toronto – Montego Bay 1x weekly

Temporary domestic route suspensions for July 16 – September 4, 2020.

Market Previous frequency
Vancouver – Nanaimo 2x daily
Vancouver – Comox 1x daily
Vancouver – Saskatoon 1x daily
Vancouver – Cranbrook 1x daily
Vancouver – Ottawa 2x daily
Vancouver – Montreal 13x weekly
Vancouver – Halifax 6x weekly
Kelowna – Victoria 2x daily
Calgary – Prince George 1x daily
Calgary – London, ON 2x daily
Calgary – Quebec City 4x weekly
Calgary – Charlottetown 4x weekly
Calgary – St. John’s 1x daily
Edmonton – Yellowknife 1x daily
Edmonton – Ottawa 4x weekly
Edmonton – Montreal 3x weekly
Edmonton – Halifax 10x weekly
Edmonton – St. John’s 4x weekly
Winnipeg – Regina 1x daily
Winnipeg – Ottawa 1x daily
Winnipeg – Montreal 1x daily
Winnipeg – Halifax 1x daily
Toronto – Victoria 4x weekly
Toronto – Kelowna 1x daily
Toronto – Sydney 6x weekly
Halifax – Montreal 2x daily
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On 7/14/2020 at 12:32 PM, Marshall said:

I wonder what the border closure extension will do to the US flying that was announced yesterday?

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How do you not know that the "border closure" is referring to vehicle traffic? The "border" was never closed to air traffic. 

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12 hours ago, CanadaEH said:

How do you not know that the "border closure" is referring to vehicle traffic? The "border" was never closed to air traffic. 

My bad, quite right, to rephrase, will this encourage   WestJet, AC and US Carriers to add more transborder flights?  So for some reason you can not drive but it is OK to fly, that does not make any sense. 

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You can fly to the U.S. 

Some Canadians may be surprised to learn they can still fly to the U.S. during the pandemic, even though the same rule doesn't apply on the other side of the border. 

With the exception of immediate family, Canada currently restricts all foreigners — including Americans — from visiting the country for non-essential travel via any mode of transportation. 

The U.S., however, only prohibits visitors from entering its country if they've been in Brazil, China, Iran, Ireland, the U.K. or 26 European countries in the Schengen Area 14 days prior. 

 
During the closure of the Canada-U.S. land border to non-essential travel, Canadians can still fly to the U.S. (Nathan Denette/The Canadian Press)

Because of the bilateral agreement to close the Canada-U.S. land border, the only way Canadians can currently travel to the U.S. is by air. Saunders said dozens of his Canadian clients have flown to the U.S. with no complications during the land border closure. 

"There's a back door wide open," said Saunders, whose office sits close to the Canadian border in Blaine, Wash. "They can just go in through the airport, and so that's what people are doing in droves."

Canadian air passengers also likely won't have to self-isolate for 14 days upon arrival in the U.S. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that international travellers do so, but it's not a requirement unless specified by a particular region or state.

When Canadians return home, they must self-isolate for 14 days — as per federal rules

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice.html#_Travellers_without_symptoms:

 

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On 8/20/2020 at 8:29 AM, Marshall said:

https://globalnews.ca/video/7287876/westjets-first-767-departs-calgary-for-the-final-time/

 

Westjet’s first 767 departs Calgary for the final time

In July, the Calgary-based airline announced it was retiring its fleet of Boeing 767s and on Wednesday, the first one flew what was likely its final flight as a passenger plane. Michael King reports.

I don't understand why they removed the name down the side, but left the tail in WJ colors.  If they were going to go that far, why not paint the tail black or something ??

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1 hour ago, AIP said:

I don't understand why they removed the name down the side, but left the tail in WJ colors.  If they were going to go that far, why not paint the tail black or something ??

ran out of paint?   Or perhaps realization that the tail insignia  would mean nothing to most non airline folks. ?

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