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It may be time for the dismayed folk in this article to face the fact that all of their effort, sacrifice, and a generation worth of debt has been rendered worthless and moot by (deliberate) civil disobedience across Canada and the US. The charade is over... the failure lies with voters across the spectrum, and most of them are big city folks.

To date, I have never seen people stay the course (in support of what they say they wanted) once it required effort and expense. All of those wonderful liberal ideas need to be thoroughly tested in California as proof of concept.

 Only when I see "willingness" to do the do is there grounds for discussion with "the good idea fairy."  An expensive lesson for all and no amount of spin or "yabut" talking points from the cheer leaders changes a thing. 


Just like this author, maybe everyone should go to Africa to gain some perspective. If you are wondering who the bloody 1% are look in the mirror....it's you:


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Best explanation in a while on Trudeau’s spending spree 

Covid Cash.....

“ We have to stop looking at all the money being given out as a "Government Handout."

These politicians, up to the top level are simply "money mismanagement specialists." 

They take OUR money, take off what they want for themselves - and then sprinkle the remainder and the borrowed among everybody else in order to look like it is them personally handing out what they call "aid" to everyone. 

It is so quickly forgotten that there is no government pool of cash or treasury that got saved up over the last twenty-five, fifty or a hundred years ago. 

It is OUR money and we are taking a loan on ourselves through these elected officials if you can call them that.

NO government anywhere generates it's own revenue. It is on the backs of the small and medium business owner who cover 40% of the GDP.“

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Coronavirus: Sweden's Tegnell admits too many died

People enjoy the warm evening at Sundspromenaden in Malmo, Sweden, on May 26, 2020Image copyrightAFP Image captionSwedes have been told to maintain social distancing but there has been no lockdown

Sweden's controversial decision not to impose a strict lockdown in response to the Covid-19 pandemic led to too many deaths, the man behind the policy, Anders Tegnell, has acknowledged.

Sweden has seen a far higher mortality rate than its nearest neighbours and its nationals are being barred from crossing their borders.

Dr Tegnell told Swedish radio more should have been done early on.

"There is quite obviously a potential for improvement in what we have done."

Sweden has counted 4,542 deaths and 40,803 infections in a population of 10 million, while Denmark, Norway and Finland have imposed lockdowns and seen far lower rates.

Denmark has seen 580 deaths, Norway has had 237 deaths and Finland 321. Sweden reported a further 74 deaths on Wednesday.

How Tegnell's views have changed

Dr Tegnell, who is Sweden's state epidemiologist and in charge of the country's response to Covid-19, told BBC News in April that the high death toll was mainly because homes for the elderly had been unable to keep the disease out, although he emphasised that "does not disqualify our strategy as a whole".Media captionSwedish state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell argued in April that Sweden’s strategy is largely working

Now he has told Swedish public radio: "If we were to encounter the same disease again, knowing exactly what we know about it today, I think we would settle on doing something in between what Sweden did and what the rest of the world has done."

Media captionCoronavirus: How Sweden is keeping its pubs and bars open

When asked if too many people had died too soon, Dr Tegnell said, "Yes, absolutely."

However, he was unclear what Sweden should have done differently and at a press conference later on Wednesday later he underlined that "we basically still think that is the right strategy for Sweden".

Trying to guide the response was rather like steering an ocean liner, as every measure took three or four weeks to work its way through.

While Sweden's approach had been to increase its response step by step, other countries had imposed immediate lockdowns and gradually reopened, he said.

He warned it was too early to say whether the lockdowns had worked or not. "We know from history during the last three or four months that this disease has a very high capacity to start spreading again."

What was Sweden's response?

Although there was no lockdown, Sweden relied on voluntary social distancing, banning gatherings of more than 50 people and halting visits to elderly care homes.

Non-essential travel is still not recommended under national guidelines, but journeys of up to two hours are allowed to see relatives or close friends as long as they do not involve visits to local shops and mixing with other residents.I

Image captionDenmark's lockdown restrictions were among the first in Europe to be lifted

As Denmark and Norway have begun opening up again, there has been growing criticism of Sweden's response, both inside the country and among its neighbours.

Norway's public health chief Frode Forland said Sweden had focused too much on historical models of viruses, while its neighbours preferred lockdown measures.

Sweden's former state epidemiologist Annika Linde believes Sweden got its response wrong and should have focused on three things:

  • An early lockdown
  • Greater protection of care homes
  • Intensive testing and contact tracing in areas of outbreaks

According to Swedish media, Dr Tegnell and his family were subjected to threats by email last month.


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Quote of the day award, right up there with "masks don't work:

“The National Emergency Stockpile was never actually meant to accumulate personal protective equipment,” she said before the committee, her comment echoed by Tam."

Now, say it loud and repeat it over and over.... they will totally believe it.

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COVID-19 study linking hydroxychloroquine, death risk retracted from medical journal

Posted June 4, 2020 12:50 pm
Updated June 4, 2020 1:50 pm

Three of the authors of an influential article that found hydroxychloroquine increased the risk of death in COVID-19 patients retracted the study on Thursday, citing concerns about the quality of the data behind it.

The anti-malarial drug has been controversial in part due to support from U.S. President Donald Trump, as well as implications of the study published in British medical journal the Lancet last month.

READ MORE: Medical journal questioning findings of hydroxychloroquine coronavirus study

The three authors said Surgisphere, the company that provided the data, would not transfer the full dataset for an independent review and that they “can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources.”

The fourth author of the study, Dr. Sapan Desai, the CEO of Surgisphere, declined to comment on the retraction.


The observational study published in the Lancet on May 22 looked at 96,000 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, some treated with the decades-old malaria drug. It claimed that those treated with hydroxychloroquine or the related chloroquine had higher risk of death and heart rhythm problems than patients who were not given the medicines.

0526_heather.jpg?w=1040&quality=70&strip=all1:47WHO halts hydroxychloroquine clinical trials

 WHO halts hydroxychloroquine clinical trials

Several clinical trials were put on hold after the study was published. The World Health Organization, which paused hydroxychloroquine trials after The Lancet study was released, said on Wednesday it was ready to resume trials.


Many scientists voiced concern about the study. Nearly 150 doctors signed an open letter to the Lancet last week calling the article’s conclusions into question and asking to make public the peer review comments that preceded publication.

“I did not do enough to ensure that the data source was appropriate for this use,” the study’s lead author, Harvard Medical School Professor Mandeep Mehra, said in a statement. “For that, and for all the disruptions – both directly and indirectly – I am truly sorry.”

Surgisphere was not immediately available for comment.

The Lancet in a statement said, “there are many outstanding questions about Surgisphere and the data that were allegedly included in this study.”

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Count for Ontario and Quebec today is a total of 681 new cases.

Now get out there and demonstrate, the current level of stupid is inadequate... the party of the people demands more. Lets render each and every dollar of the CERB effort and the entire deficit we absorb for the year worthless. 

Get er done. 

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3 hours ago, Wolfhunter said:

Count for Ontario and Quebec today is a total of 681 new cases.

Now get out there and demonstrate, the current level of stupid is inadequate... the party of the people demands more. Lets render each and every dollar of the CERB effort and the entire deficit we absorb for the year worthless. 

Get er done. 

Quebec, and all the other provinces except Ontario , seem to getting a hand on it: https://covid-19-status.ca/

Click the tabs across the top for each individual province.

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looks like Ontario had a better handle on it than QC from the get go to me.  More cases means it will peak sooner and taper off faster.  ON seems to have done exactly what was asked and flattened the curve.  We are still in the recovery phase.  you know the phase right before the rebound.

This is not nearly over.


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I worry about our borders, US and east of Manitoba. 


Despite what the government says regarding the US border.....I still have contacts working flights ....empty going over and full coming back from LHR and FRA....hope the passengers are good honest “Canadians” and stay in quarantine.

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Restaurants, hair salons and malls can reopen in parts of Ontario on Friday, Toronto-area excluded

TORONTO -- A significant list of businesses, including restaurants, hair salons and malls, will be allowed to reopen as of Friday in some parts of Ontario, except the Toronto-area and a few other regions, as the province enters Stage 2 of its restart phase through a regional approach.

The majority of Ontario's public health unit regions will move forward to Stage 2 on June 12, the province announced on Monday afternoon.




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And that's just how silly this whole thing has become.

No one seems able to explain it to me either. We shut down the entire country for less than the current single day totals in Ontario... now it's all A OK. Is the logic for this in the same box as the gun ban and Paris accord targets?

I'm starting to lose track of the number of things that are both true and untrue at the same time....I'm clearly not smart enough to be a Liberal

It looks like Rex can't keep up either:


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Was out with a friend I haven't seen in a while last week for a ride.  Had an interesting chat.

He happened to be just outside Wuhan when all of this started.  His account as to what went on there is totally different than the accounts we saw on the news.  He says it was no different that what was done here.  Everything closed up shop and everyone was told to stay home.  I suppose that STAY HOME in China carries a bit more weight than here but I don't know.  People stayed home.  movement was allowed to get food and supplies but generally the people just stayed home.  There was no military in the streets enforcing it.  It was the regular police presence as ever.  It seemed to work for them in the end.

Over here it was portrayed far differently which led to the people violating the rules and placing us where we are today.  So where is the actual problem?  The problem is the media, all media, pushing their own political agenda.  When a media outlet has a particular political bent then that media source is no longer reliable.  That means that no media outlet, be it main stream or some dude in his basement with a website or youtube channel, can be trusted. but I am sure everyone will continue to follow the one that most closely fits their views on the world correct or not.


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Appears someone has woken up to the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ....

Ottawa readies CERB exit plan

Draft legislation tightens eligibility terms

  • Calgary Herald
  • 9 Jun 2020

Even this most prodigal of governments knows it can’t keep spending $3.6 billion a week on the Canada Emergency Response Benefit.

CERB was indispensable when it was introduced — providing income for people who had been deprived of their livelihoods by COVID.

But as the economy reopens, Ottawa is looking at an exit strategy from a program that has cost $43.5 billion in the past 12 weeks, supporting 8.4 million workers.

The first signs of that game plan are evident in legislation the government is currently negotiating with the opposition parties.

According to a draft bill seen by National Post, C17 tightens the eligibility conditions around CERB, and makes it a criminal offence to knowingly claim money under false pretences.

Workers will no longer be eligible for income support payments if they fail to return to work “when it is reasonable to do so”, or if their employer makes a request for their return. Applicants who have declined a “reasonable” job offer will also be deemed ineligible.

Each period of eligibility will be shortened to two weeks from four, and the amount a worker can earn without clawback, will be reduced to $500 from $1,000.

The changes, as far as they go, are sensible. There is still no requirement to look for work.

But the message is clear anyone who can work, and is able to find a job, should do so.

Nearly one third of the workforce earns minimum wage levels — under $15 an hour — which is less than CERB offers.

The hope was that many people would return to work by transitioning to the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy program, where Ottawa picks up the tab for 75 per cent of wages, up to $847 per employee per week.

That has not happened so far. CERB has proven a safe place to ride out the storm for many workers.

But the emergency benefit is set to run out on July 6 for those who started claiming it on March 15.

The problem is that many workers claiming CERB may find that their jobs are no longer there for them, once the lockdown is lifted.

It puts the government on the horns of a dilemma.

The C.D. Howe Institute issued a paper from one of its COVID working groups on Monday that suggested the Trudeau government has two options: either expand Employment Insurance to include ineligible CERB recipients; or, continue CERB with modifications to make the transition to work more desirable.

The way to do this, the group suggested, is to increase the flexibility of CERB using lessons learned from the EI program that set parameters on claw-back rates and earnings exemptions. The Working While on Claim program suggests the higher the exemption for allowable earnings, the more incentive there is to accept part-time work. The issue may be that CERB is administered by the Canada Revenue Agency, which does not keep real-time data on individual monthly earnings.

However, the alternative — using the EI account — could create its own problems. If the account moves into deficit, it would trigger premium increases (unless the government consciously decided to freeze premiums). EI premium increases would act like a tax increase on low and middle earners and act as a disincentive to employers to hire more workers.

Ottawa has to juggle competing priorities — it must transition as many workers as possible off CERB to reduce income replacement payments and allow labour markets to readjust to the new reality.

At the same time, the need for support will not disappear by midsummer.

There was encouraging news last week with job numbers that suggested the recession might be over already — 290,000 jobs were added in May, and the number who worked less than half their regular hours fell by a similar number.

But the unemployment rate at 13.7 per cent is the highest in four decades.

It is likely that whole sectors have been decimated — accommodation, travel, tourism, food services — and some jobs may not come back. More resources will have to be devoted to training workers in those industries for new work.

Liberals concede the government is likely to transition to an enhanced EI or an extended CERB, as the C.D. Howe group suggested.

The current legislation does not specify the nature of the program going forward — changes can be enacted by Cabinet without recourse to Parliament in any case. “We can’t get too far ahead of our skis,” said one official.

But the hope is that by tightening the eligibility criteria on CERB, it might encourage some people to migrate to the wage subsidy program.

There is a sense that we’re all in the clean up stage after a tornado has torn through town. While there’s always the prospect of a downed power line, the immediate danger has passed. The government’s emergency benefit has provided income replacement for millions of people but it can’t do so indefinitely.

Ottawa’s new legislation is recognition of that fact.

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8 minutes ago, Wolfhunter said:

From the WDYTWGTH file, right on time and as predicted:

19 states see rising coronavirus cases and Arizona is asking its hospitals to activate emergency plans


And Los Angeles is encouraging residents who have attended protests over the death of George Floyd to monitor for symptoms, fearing that the large gatherings could provide the potential for the virus to spread.”



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and the beat goes round and round.   Not too long ago it was declared that wearing masks was ineffective , now of course that has changed and we need to wear masks .  Experts have said temperature checks are only partly successful in that a carrier can have the virus and show no symptoms at all...... but today.....

JUNE 12, 2020 / 10:07 AM / UPDATED 11 MINUTES AGO

Canada to mandate temperature checks for airline passengers, Trudeau says


OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada will take airline passengers’ temperatures before they fly and anyone with a fever will not be allowed to travel, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said on Friday.

“Temperature checks will not be detecting people with COVID-19,” Trudeau said in a news conference. “It’s an extra layer of safety to encourage people who might feel sick to stay home and not put others at risk.”

The screening will be phased in, with those arriving in Canada being screened by the end of June, and then for those leaving the country as well as for domestic travelers at the country’s four biggest airports by the end of July.

If a traveler is found to have a fever after two separate measurements 10 minutes apart, they will be asked to rebook after 14 days have passed, the transport minister said.

Canada and the United States are set to extend a ban on non-essential travel to late July as both countries seek to control the spread of the coronavirus, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters earlier this week.

Canada last week said it would require most airport workers and flight crews to wear non-medical masks.

The spread of the coronavirus has slowed in Canada in recent weeks, and all the provinces have begun to ease restrictions and open up for business again. As of Thursday, Canada had recorded 97,530 total cases and 7,994 deaths, up from 7,960 deaths a day earlier, official data show.

More than 80% of the deaths have been in long-term care facilities and nursing homes, prompting Ottawa to send the military to help out.

Also on Friday, Trudeau extended the military presence in long-term care homes in both Ontario and Quebec until June 26. When the military pulls out, the Canadian Red Cross will be moving in to help, Trudeau said.

Reporting by Steve Scherer; Editing by Chizu Nomiyama and Jonath

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Canada at the leading edge of prevention June 12:



TAIPEI (Taiwan News) — China Airlines (CAL) and EVA Air will turn away passengers with a fever and require others to wear a mask during flights, except for meal times, to prevent the Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19), reports said Saturday (March 21).

Before boarding their flight, passengers will have their temperatures taken and anyone with a minimum fever of 37.5 degrees Celsius will be turned away, the Taiwan airlines announced on their websites Saturday. Travelers who refuse to undergo temperature screening will not be allowed on board.

Wearing a face mask should start when first approaching the check-in counter. It should continue during the whole flight except when passengers eat, CNA reported.

Of the 135 coronavirus cases confirmed in Taiwan, 102 were imported cases, with most of them Taiwanese citizens who had been traveling overseas. This causes concerns that passengers on airplanes and moving through airports are particularly vulnerable to the virus, reports said.

On Friday, health authorities in the Chinese city of Chengdu said a woman who had been confirmed as a coronavirus case had traveled on CAL flights between San Francisco and her home town, with a layover at Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport. So far, nobody who has been in contact with her during the trip has been recorded as infected.


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Canadians can still travel to the U.S. during the COVID-19 pandemic — just not by car

After Karel Bennett was turned away at the U.S. land border between B.C. and Washington state last month, she didn't give up hope of entering the U.S. to see her newborn grandson. 

The Canada-U.S. land border is closed to non-essential travel to help stop the spread of COVID-19. However, Bennett had heard rumours she may still be able to fly to the U.S. 


She said she was first tipped off by U.S. border officers at the crossing where she was denied entry.

"They said, 'Have you thought about flying?' And I said, 'Well, no,' and they said, 'You might want to look at that.'" 

Bennett was desperate to visit her daughter, who lives just outside Seattle, because her daughter's one-month-old  son was sick with a respiratory problem. So, Bennett took a chance and booked a flight from Vancouver to Seattle on May 22. This time, she had no problems getting through U.S. customs and entering the country. 

"I just couldn't believe it," said Bennett, who lives in Sooke, B.C. "I was so happy."

Many Canadians are unaware that, even though they're currently barred from driving to the U.S. for leisure travel, they can still fly to the country. 

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) told CBC News that its travel restrictions apply only to Canadians trying to enter the U.S. at land border crossings, which includes travel by car, train, ferry and pleasure boats.

However, Canadian air passengers can still enter the country as long as they haven't visitedBrazil, China, Iran, Ireland, the U.K. or 26 European countries in the Schengen Area 14 days prior. 

Canadian travellers also likely won't have to self-isolate for 14 days upon arrival. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that international travellers do so, but it's not a requirement unless specified by a particular region or state. For example, Hawaii requires that air passengers self-isolate for 14 days. 

When Canadians return home, they must self-isolate for 14 days — as per federal rules

Flying rule not widely known

The U.S. air travel rule isn't widely known on either side of the border. U.S. immigration lawyer Len Saunders said he only became aware of the details when one of his Canadian clients called him in mid-May — from Las Vegas. 

The client reported that he had managed to fly from Vancouver to visit his fiancée, who lives in Las Vegas.

"I was shocked," said Saunders, whose office sits close to the Canadian border in Blaine, Wash. "Logically, when you look at it, if the border's closed, it shouldn't be any different whether you drive or fly."

Len Saunders, an immigration lawyer in Blaine, Wash., said he was shocked when he first learned that Canadians can still fly to the U.S. (Gabriel Osorio/CBC)

Saunders immediately spread the word about flying to the U.S. to his Canadian clients who have loved ones in the country. He said dozens of them have since flown there and experienced no complications or self-isolation requirements. 

"It's given them the opportunity to reunite with family members, so it's definitely a welcome loophole to many Canadians."

Saunders advises people to book their flights online. His clients who have tried to buy a plane ticket to the U.S. by phone have often been rejected by airline agents unaware that it's allowed, he said.  

"Don't talk to an agent, and you'll have no problem."

Some U.S. airlines currently offer routes between Canada and the U.S., and Air Canada resumed service to the U.S. on May 22.

WATCH | Questions about who new policy is designed to help:

Canada is now allowing some family members separated by temporary COVID-19 travel restrictions to cross the border from the U.S. 3:22

The permission to fly isn't reciprocal: Canada prohibits U.S. visitors from entering the country via all modes of transport — including by plane. However, this week, the Canadian government loosened its travel restrictions to allow U.S. citizens with immediate family in Canada to enter the country.

Last month, Canada and the U.S. agreed to keep their shared land border closed to non-essential traffic until June 21, and, according to sources with direct knowledge of the situation, that date will be extended. But Canadians will still be able to fly to the U.S., unless the country revises its rules.  

Why let Canadians fly to the U.S.?

Bennett spent 10 days in the U.S. and is grateful she had the opportunity to reunite with her daughter and help care for her new grandson, who has since recovered from his illness.

"There's really no words to express it. I'm very thankful," she said about her visit.

But Bennett said she's confused about why she was allowed to fly to the U.S. when the Canada-U.S. land border is closed. 

"It's very bizarre," she said. "Why would they do that?"

CBP didn't provide CBC News with an explanation. Instead, it sent a link to a Department of Homeland Security document that states that "non-essential travel between the United States and Canada poses additional risk of transmission and spread of COVID–19."

However, the document doesn't state why its travel restrictions for Canadians only apply to land border crossings.

Saunders said he's stumped why the U.S. is still allowing Canadians to fly to the country for non-essential travel.

"It makes no sense, but many Canadians are happy to take advantage of this loophole."

A word of caution

The Canadian government currently advises its citizens to avoid travelling abroad because of the COVID-19 pandemic. But it won't prevent them from visiting the U.S. or other countries and will allow travellers to return to Canada — as long as they self-isolate for 14 days. 

However, because of the government's travel advisory, Canadians will likely face difficulty getting travel insurance that provides medical coverage if they fall ill with COVID-19 while abroad.

Total U.S. coronavirus cases surpassed two million on Wednesday. Canada's cases stood at just over 99,000.


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On 6/13/2020 at 5:24 AM, Jaydee said:

"They said, 'Have you thought about flying?' And I said, 'Well, no,' and they said, 'You might want to look at that.'" 

Just the reverse as what I saw happen when I worked at the airport 30 years ago.

A couple of early 20's young ladies were turned back at pre-clearance because the birth information said born in Canada but no documents to say that they had any reason to reside in the USA (even though they had drivers licence with California addresses).

The US Customs guy that walked them back out suggested that they 'fly to Vancouver, rent a car and drive across'

He said that he had not made any note of them being 'Frost-backs' so they would likely be successfull.


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