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40 minutes ago, boestar said:

they already do checks at provincial borders.


for sure?  I know folks who recently drove between Ab and Bc and did not encounter any checks. Were they just lucky or?

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1 hour ago, Jaydee said:

Quebec only does them inbound on the 401. No check on driving into Ontario.

New Brunswick was apparently doing them on the Quebec border as well.

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7 hours ago, Marshall said:

for sure?  I know folks who recently drove between Ab and Bc and did not encounter any checks. Were they just lucky or?

Nova Scotia to New brunswick was for sure


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13 hours ago, boestar said:

Nova Scotia to New brunswick was for sure


So I guess you meant to post  "they already do checks at some provincial borders.  ?  Your answer to my post gave me the impression that you meant all Provinces were border checking, thus my answer.  Cheers

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8 hours ago, Marshall said:

So I guess you meant to post  "they already do checks at some provincial borders.  ?

I have no confirmation on others but I know they are stopping people at some.


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Ontario records significant spike in COVID-19 cases as death toll surpasses 1,500

Sean Davidson

Sean DavidsonMulti-Platform Writer, CTV News Toronto

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Published Friday, May 8, 2020 10:30AM EDTLast Updated Friday, May 8, 2020 11:01AM EDT

TORONTO -- Ontario has recorded a significant spike in the number of new COVID-19 cases as the death toll in the province surpassed 1,500.

The province confirmed 477 new cases of the virus on Friday, the biggest single-day spike since May 2, bringing the total number of patients in Ontario to 19,598. Ontario also recorded 63 new COVID-19-related deaths, bringing the total to 1,540.

The spike in cases comes after Ontario reported 399 new cases of the virus on Thursday, 412 cases on Wednesday, 387 cases on Tuesday and 370 new case on Monday.

The province also reported that 13,990 COVID-19 cases in Ontario have been resolved. That number accounts for more than 71.4 per cent all cases. 

According to Friday's epidemiological summary, of all deceased patients in Ontario, seven were between the ages of 20 and 39, 66 people were between the ages of 40 and 59 and 388 people were between the ages of 60 and 79.

People, who are over the age of 80, continue to be the hardest hit group. So far, at least 1,079 people in this age group of have died.

There are currently 234 COVID-19 outbreaks at long-term care homes, according to the province. 

There have been 3,230 health-care workers infected with the virus. 

To date, Ontario has completed 397,149 COVID-19 tests, including 16,295 which were done yesterday. 

There are currently 1,088 people who have been hospitalized due to COVID-19 in Ontario. There are 213 people in intensive care and of those 166 people are using a ventilator to assist with breathing. 

Quick facts on all Ontario COVID-19 patients:

  •  41.9 per cent of all patients in the province are male and 57.3 per cent are female.
  •  2.6 per cent of all patients are 19 years of age or younger.
  •  23.5 per cent of all patients are between the ages of 20 and 39.
  •  30.5 per cent of all patients are between the ages of 40 and 59.
  •  21.7 per cent of all patients are between the ages of 60 and 79.
  •  21.7 per cent of all patients are 80 years of age or older.
  •  Public health units in the Greater Toronto Area account for 61.3 per cent of all cases.
  •  7.3 per cent of all patients had travelled history prior to becoming ill.
  •  22.0 per cent of all patients had contact with a previously confirmed case.
  •  36.3 per cent of all patients had community exposure.
  •  34.3 per cent of all patients had exposure information listed as pending
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Prime minister promises more pandemic aid to come from Ottawa

TORONTO -- Justin Trudeau says there will be more support from the federal government to help certain sectors of the economy reeling from the impact of the COVID-19 pandemic.

The prime minister made the promise yesterday, without getting into specifics, as he announced an extension to Ottawa's emergency wage-subsidy program beyond its early-June endpoint. He said he'd have more to say about that next week.

The pledges followed the unsettling news that nearly two million jobs were lost in April, adding to the one million lost in March, pushing Canada's unemployment rate to a staggering 13 per cent.

Some new signs of both economic and social life appeared in many parts of the country this week as various provinces took more tentative steps to loosen lockdown restrictions.

But Trudeau warned the reopening of the economy and the lifting of restrictions will happen "very, very gradually" and transmission of the disease will have to be carefully monitored.

Though the COVID-19 curve has been flattening in many regions, the disease continues to take a terrible toll, especially in the epicentres of Quebec and Ontario.

Another 161 deaths were reported yesterday, raising the country's total to 4,569. And the number of new coronavirus cases rose by 1,512 to 66,434.

Meanwhile, the federal government revealed Friday that it suspended shipments of N95 respirators from a Montreal-based supplier after about eight million of the masks made in China failed to meet specifications.

The office of Procurement Minister Anita Anand said that of the nearly 11 million masks received from the distributor, about one million met federal standards and another 1.6 million are still being tested.

The Public Health Agency of Canada noted that while Canada gets a lot of protective equipment from international manufacturers, domestic manufacturers also provide gowns, face shields and hand sanitizer, among other products.

This includes an agreement with Medicom, based in Pointe-Claire, Que., for production of 20 million N95 respirator masks and 24 million surgical masks per year for the next 10 years, starting this summer.

This report by The Canadian Press was first published May 9, 2020.

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Coronavirus Sickens Almost 90 at Biggest Russian Gold Mine

Almost 90 workers at Russia’s largest gold mine, operated by Polyus PJSC, have contracted the coronavirus, according to the public health agency.


The miners’ unit at the Siberian province of Krasnoyarsk recorded 82 new cases of the deadly virus in the past day, taking the total to 89, the press service of the regional branch of Rospotrebnadzor said. More than 94% of those infected have no symptoms, it said.



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Coronavirus: Germany infection rate rises as lockdown eases

Staff at a drive-through testing centre in BerlinImage copyrightGETTY IMAGES Image captionGermany has introduced a mass testing regime, including drive-through centres like this one in Berlin

Coronavirus infections are rising in Germany, official data shows, just days after the country eased its lockdown restrictions.

According to the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Germany's reproduction rate - the number of people each confirmed patient infects - is now above 1.

This means the number of infections is now rising in the country.

The report came as thousands of Germans gathered on Saturday calling for a total end to the lockdown.

Chancellor Angela Merkel announced a broad relaxation of national restrictions on Wednesday after talks with the leaders of Germany's 16 states.

All shops are allowed to reopen, pupils will gradually return to class and the Bundesliga - Germany's top football league - will restart as soon as next weekend.

But there were protests across the country on Saturday, as some called for measures to be lifted even quicker.

Germany has the seventh-highest number of confirmed cases in the world, with latest RKI data on Sunday showing the reported infected tally at 169,218 and a reported death toll of 7,395.

What did the report say?

The report from the public health agency released on Saturday said the reproduction rate was estimated at 1.1.

While this estimate involves "a degree of uncertainty", the rise in the number requires "a close monitoring of the situation in the coming days".

Germany has won praise for its response to the outbreak. Mass testing and effective lockdown restrictions have helped keep the death toll far lower than in other European countries.

The chancellor imposed an "emergency brake", requiring local authorities to reimpose restrictions if cases rise above a threshold of 50 per 100,000 people.Outbreaks at meat processing plants in the states of North Rhine-Westphalia and Schleswig-Holstein have already reportedly breached that line, and forced district officials to act.And one district in the state of Thuringia reportedly recorded more than 80 infections per 100,000 people, thought to be due to outbreaks at care facilities.The start of a trend?By Damien McGuinness, BBC correspondent in BerlinThese latest official figures appear to show that the number of Covid-19 infections in Germany may be rising faster again.The reproduction rate has risen to 1.1 - that means that ten people will pass the virus on to 11 more people. To keep the pandemic in check this level should be below one.This figure though is an estimate. And it does vary a lot from day to day. So officials warn against interpreting too much into short-term changes.But this all comes as Germany is easing restrictions in some of the most risky sectors when it potential infections - such as restaurants, hotels and professional football.So the government will be watching closely to see if this does mark a trend. And if the virus is spreading more rapidly, some restrictions could be reimposed.At the same though the daily death toll in Germany is the lowest it's been in more than a month. Fewer than 40 people here died of Covid-19 in the 24 hours until Sunday. In other large European countries this level has at times risen to almost 1,000.How is Germany taking the lockdown?While some worry that the country is easing its restrictions too soon, others in Germany are protesting against the continued lockdown.Small numbers of people have taken to the streets in recent weeks but on Saturday this swelled to thousands of people who gathered in cities across the country - including Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich and Stuttgart.German museums and shops open as lockdown easedHow to open a hairdresser's after lockdownDon't rule out summer in Majorca: German officialOfficers in Berlin arrested about 30 people outside the Reichstag on Saturday for not obeying social distancing measures. Authorities say some demonstrators threw bottles at the police.Right-wing groups and conspiracy theorists also took part in some of the protests.
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Quebec reports 142 more people have died from COVID-19 in the last 24 hours

Published Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:17PM EDTLast Updated Sunday, May 10, 2020 1:42PM EDT

MONTREAL -- Quebec public health authorities announced Sunday that 142 more people have died from COVID-19 and there are 735 new confirmed cases of the virus.

The number of deaths reported in the last 24 hours is more than double from the 61 reported between Friday and Saturday. It is the third highest death total since the crisis began after May 1 (163) and April 16 (143).

The total number of confirmed cases is now at 37,721, and 2,928 have died from the virus.

There were four fewer Quebecers in the hospital Sunday than the previous day, with 1,831 patients receiving treatment. There were also six fewer patients in intensive care wards for a total of 199.

The number of those who have recovered rose by 258 to 9,526.


The hardest hit borough in the hardest hit city in the country is Montreal North, which began a massive testing and protective equipment distribution effort on the weekend.

According to the borough, 40,000 masks, 1,250 protective visors and hundreds of litres of disinfectant liquid are being distributed throughout the territory.


Quebec reopened retail stores outside Montreal on Monday while those in the greater Montreal region are to reopen May 25.

For the second time, the province pushed back the reopening of retail stores in the greater Montreal area by another week.

Premier Francois Legault said the province will keep close tabs on the situation in the city before deciding whether stores, daycares and elementary schools can reopen later this month.

Elsewhere in Quebec, lottery terminals have begun to reopen after being shut down on March 20 with sales moving to online only.

Legault has set May 11 as reopening day for schools and daycares outside greater Montreal. High schools, junior colleges and universities are to stay closed until September.

Quebec's construction industry is to completely start up May 11, while manufacturing companies are to resume operations the same day with initial limits on the total number of employees who can work per shift.

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This is from a month or so ago, but a looming crisis none the less and magnified by Covid19 and it's  occurring at a time US farmers are about to euthanize millions of animals... I only mention it because It gets less play here than JT's socks: 


Zimbabwe was once the breadbasket of Africa, a different thread perhaps but lots of lessons that go, and will continue to go unheeded.

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History Lesson


Woodstock Occurred in the Middle of a Pandemic

In my lifetime, there was another deadly flu epidemic in the United States. The flu spread from Hong Kong to the United States, arriving December 1968 and peaking a year later. It ultimately killed 100,000 people in the U.S., mostly over the age of 65, and one million worldwide.


Lifespan in the US in those days was 70 whereas it is 78 today. Population was 200 million as compared with 328 million today. It was also a healthier population with low obesity. If it would be possible to extrapolate the death data based on population and demographics, we might be looking at a quarter million deaths today from this virus. So in terms of lethality, it was as deadly and scary as COVID-19 if not more so, though we shall have to wait to see. 

“In 1968/69,” says Nathaniel L. Moir in National Interest, “the H3N2 pandemic killed more individuals in the U.S. than the combined total number of American fatalities during both the Vietnam and Korean Wars.”

And this happened in the lifetimes of every American over 52 years of age. 

I was 5 years old and have no memory of this at all. My mother vaguely remembers being careful and washing surfaces, and encouraging her mom and dad to be careful. Otherwise, it’s mostly forgotten today. Why is that? 

Nothing was closed by force. Schools mostly stayed open. Businesses did too. You could go to the movies. You could go to bars and restaurants. John Fund has a friend who reports having attended a Grateful Dead concert. In fact, people have no memory or awareness that the famous Woodstock concert of August 1969 – planned in January during the worse period of death – actually occurred during a deadly American flu pandemic that only peaked globally six months later. There was no thought given to the virus which, like ours today, was dangerous mainly for a non-concert-going demographic



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remember, if 30,000 people died on the way up to the peak.  30,.000 more have to die on the way back down.  Its a curve not a cliff.


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The flip side of the argument.....

“ End the lockdown immediately — but protect the vulnerable “

The reality is that the vast majority of people under 65, and virtually everyone under 50, will be no more inconvenienced by COVID-19 than by a cold

A COVID-19 vaccine is at least a year away, but the current treatment for the disease — the lockdown — must end immediately. However, any exit strategy will only be effective if it’s targeted and based on known data about the disease and the demographics that are most vulnerable to it.

The facts dictate that the best course of action would be to reopen the economy, while continuing to isolate those over the age of 65 and people who have underlying health conditions. To continue to put the entire economy on hold until there is a vaccine will cause a financial collapse worse than the 2008-09 recession, which took trillions of dollars and five years to “cure.”

This will place a heavy burden on the older generation, which is, frankly, my own cohort. But just as youth have had to go to war to save their elders, the reverse is true this time.

Seniors who need to work or need financial help must be assisted, so that the rest of society doesn’t have to be. Seniors should be set up, wherever possible, to work from home if they can. Seniors who need assistance in order to stay isolated, in terms of food preparation and other care, must be propped up with these resources. And nursing homes must be revamped to reduce the spread of diseases.

The reality is that the vast majority of people under 65, and virtually everyone under 50, will be no more inconvenienced by COVID-19 than by a cold. That’s why they must be allowed to work, socialize, volunteer and attend school. Even then, there are risks: new outbreaks may occur, but fortunately, in Canada, provincial health-care systems have not been overwhelmed. (This is unlike the United States, where its impoverished population of tens of millions intersects with the developed world’s worst health-care system.)

Ironically, Quebec has the most aggressive plan to reopen, but without proper targeting based on sound scientific criteria. This haste is strange considering that Quebec’s infection rates are four times higher than the Canadian average — likely due to its massive regulatory incompetence involving medical care in nursing homes. Quebec’s plan to reopen without isolating its elderly and vulnerable is therefore foolish.

Some argue that the initial mass lockdowns were a mistake, but they were prudent in the absence of any warning or understanding of this viral assault. However, to continue to sustain a full lockdown will be a gigantic mistake, and will shutter half the country’s businesses and eviscerate millions of jobs. Conversely, unfettered re-openings would also be a gigantic mistake.

Here are the facts: as of last month in Canada, 90 per cent of COVID-19 deaths were people who were more than 60 years of age, but the lion’s share were older than 75 years and living in close proximity to one another in nursing homes, where viruses always spread like wildfire.



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13 minutes ago, boestar said:

really?  Ask someone who had it.  A cold does not send you to bed for 24 days


You need to re-read the article: 

The reality is that the vast majority of people under 65, and virtually everyone under 50, will be no more inconvenienced by COVID-19 than by a cold.

It's doesn't say "for everyone it's no more than a cold" it says for the "vast majority".  Do you disagree with this fact/conclusion?  I would say I agree with the idea of quarantining everyone over 65, all nursing and care homes and anyone under 65 with a pre-existing medical condition.

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