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Trudeau’s ability to fail on literally everything he touches is astonishing even for him.. ??

 

“ Admittedly, we haven’t done nearly as well as China’s Pacific neighbours — Taiwan, Singapore, South Korea, Australia and others.

But those countries know never to trust anything the Chinese government says. So as soon as they heard rumours of an outbreak in China, they started massive testing and stopped most travel from China.

As a result, those countries’ infection and death rates are minuscule and they have not had to shut their economies.

Even within Canada’s overall encouraging statistics, there are standouts. Saskatchewan is one of them. British Columbia, Manitoba, the North and Atlantic Canada have been steady, too.

No word from Premier Moe on when sit-down restaurants, bars, indoor rec centres, public attractions and sporting events can recommence, but at least some aspects of Saskatchewan daily life will be closer to normal beginning in less than two weeks.

By contrast, the numbers in Alberta have, admittedly, deteriorated in the past two weeks.

On Easter Sunday, Alberta’s number of recovered cases exceeded its number of new infections. That’s a huge turning point in any pandemic.

Since then, though, there has a been a spike in new infections. New positive tests have nearly tripled.

That still doesn’t trouble me a ton. The increase in positive cases has been the result of more widespread testing. We’re identifying more asymptomatic carriers, which is actually a good thing because it gets sick people into isolation sooner so they infect fewer others.

Also, by far the largest number of new infections have occurred because of outbreaks at two huge meat-packing plants.

That’s bad news for the two towns that supply most of the workers for those plants, but it is not necessarily a sign of a wider Alberta outbreak coming. (Edmonton, for instance, retains the lowest or second-lowest per capita infection rate of any major Canadian city.)

The meat-packing companies should be ashamed of themselves. They permitted the infection to run rampant by not providing workers with PPE and doing fever screening at the gate before admitting staff. Their self-interest to stay open and preserve their profits should have made them much more proactive.

Still, as we all itch to reopen like Saskatchewan, the Alberta numbers remind us how vital it is to remain vigilant.”

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-follow-the-statistics-wherever-they-lead/wcm/a4b76e7c-c52e-4722-aaa5-171b0e847901?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1588012271

 
 

 

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Jaydee, the infection rate in the meat packing plants is more because of where the workers are mostly from and how in their culture sharing housing etc. is the norm. Nothing wrong with that but it does result in close contact and thus possibly increased transmission of the virus. Evidently the majority of the workers are either in Canada on work permits or are landed immigrants. Car pools are the norm for those who live in Calgary to go to work and also the norm is one of sharing accommodation, something that the health authorities evidently did not take into account when seeking to control the spread of the virus. 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cargill-high-river-jbs-brooks-deena-hinshaw-1.5545113?cmp=rss

The same can of course be said of the problem in Long Care Senior Housing complexes, some blame it on Public vs Private care but looking around the world the only common factor seems to be age. There is no doubt more staffing etc. might have helped but the cost of such care would have been out of the reach of a lot of the residents.  In the past seniors were part and parcel of extended families and thus lived with with sons, daughters, grand children etc.  Not so today. 

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On 4/26/2020 at 3:04 AM, Wolfhunter said:

Most "Trump lovers" don't love Trump. They don't even like Trump and they would gladly vote for a reasonable, moderate alternative.... if one existed. 

Save them from 'Bernie'

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“ Toronto doctor 'very concerned' after being told he can't enter local TD branch “

A doctor who was told he can’t enter his local TD branch is “very concerned” about the bank's coronavirus policies. The bank would not let him in because he is a health-care worker, according to CBC News.

Dr. Coleman Rotstein is a professor at the University of Toronto and an organ transplant specialist with its health network. 

He said it started last week when his daughter made a trip to a TD bank located on Avenue Road in North York. When she entered the bank she was stopped by a security guard who asked her if she worked in health-care.

 

"Then she asked the guard, 'What if I was a health-care worker?' And the guard said, 'No, you cannot come into the bank.'"

A teller confirmed the news to Rotstein after he made a call to the branch. They advised him to do his banking over the phone or online.

Rotstein’s wife is also a doctor. She called the manager who said that all TD branches are following the policy.

"I don't think it's fair. It's a slap in the face," he said

A spokesman for TD noted that the bank is also asking customers if they’ve been out of the country in the past two weeks or if they’ve had any exposure to coronavirus.

TD’s statement said that asking customers about being health-care workers is not a part of the policy.

The bank says it is working to assist essential and health-care workers by making use of a closed branch “to serve calls exclusively from health-care workers.”

The bank also said it will be offering a priority phone service to the elderly.

When speaking about the Rotstein family’s experience, the spokesman for TD said they will "share this customer's feedback with our team."

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doctor-td-bank-covid-19-1.5547010

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1 hour ago, boestar said:

Make America Great....One Human Sacrifice at a time.

 
“ From my vantage point watching both the USA and foreign countries, it looks like anarchy is breaking out.  For example, tens of thousands of Californians hit the beaches last weekend and many did not social distance.  Governor Gavin Newsom scolded the shore people but is essentially powerless against hordes of folks who have had enough “sheltering in place.”
 
In New York, the virus epicenter, the isolation is still holding but barely. More people are moving around and my guess is that Governor Cuomo has two weeks of authority left before the state orders break down.
 
I do believe the politicians understand the situation and will begin loosening the pandemic rules in order to avoid open conflict. I also think many Americans remain scared and will wear masks long after they are allowed to move around at will.”
 
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3 hours ago, deicer said:

Anarchy is breaking out because irresponsible right wingers like Bill O'reilly are advocating for it and stirring the pot.

I think he retired...

In any case, these discussions bring back fond memories of Africa, then as now, affirmation is more important than information, opinion more important than experience.... a land where tribal affiliation rules. 

Stay the course and enjoy the show. Above all, avoid doing the work and earning the win. Be sure to accuse others of deflection at every opportunity, then compare the results those efforts yield with world history. 

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Bill OReilly retired....i guess that’s one way to put it:

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O'Reilly's media career took a major blow after several New York Times investigations revealed that he had paid six women nearly $50 million to settle various sexual harassment lawsuits. After the first New York Times investigation revealed that O'Reilly and Fox News had settled five sexual harassment lawsuits totaling $13 million, Fox News terminated O'Reilly's employment in April 2017.[11][12][13][14] In October 2017, The New York Times reported an additional settlement of $32 million that O'Reilly had paid to settle a sixth sexual harassment lawsuit which had been filed against him by former Fox News analyst Lis Wiehl because of the "non-consensual sexual relationship" she says O'Reilly initiated with her.[15][16] The revelation of this sixth settlement caused O'Reilly to be dropped by the United Talent Agency.[17]

 

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33 minutes ago, deicer said:

There is an overabundance of...

Toilet paper, flour, yeast, eggs, Lysol wipes, day old chicks and garden seed... you just can't get them. 

Farmers will be euthanizing livestock because it's too expensive to feed them with all of the packing plant closures.... the regional plants were closed due to economies of scale.

In other words, due to the consumer demand for cheap beef, no one would buy local and family farms, who could no longer compete switched to mink.... big mistake, we know how that ended eh?

Consider the notion of an abundance of food you can't eat...

Welcome to Africa, please remain seated with your seatbelt securely fastened and thanks for flying TIA.

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6 hours ago, deicer said:

At least some on the right are finally waking up.

Finally?  Bill Krystol and his band of sore losers here have been yelling at the clouds since Trump ko'd their boy (low energy Jeb) in the primaries 4 years ago.

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The Alberta Medicos yesterday got caught with BAD Science and had to fess up.

Their new graphs and projections on Covid 19 were cut in half from there previous estimates. Their previous estimates were already much lower than their original fear-mongering.

The latest figures are still way above the actuals that have so far come in.

However, the economy is still shutdown.

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1 hour ago, Fido said:

The Alberta Medicos yesterday got caught with BAD Science and had to fess up.

Their new graphs and projections on Covid 19 were cut in half from there previous estimates. Their previous estimates were already much lower than their original fear-mongering.

The latest figures are still way above the actuals that have so far come in.

However, the economy is still shutdown.

Just imagine how **bleep** you would have been if the risk had been understated along with the resulting increased death toll.  ?

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5 hours ago, Marshall said:

Just imagine how **bleep** you would have been if the risk had been understated along with the resulting increased death toll.  ?

We pay these guys to get it right and they didn't.

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4 hours ago, Fido said:

We pay these guys to get it right and they didn't.

As long as there is ZERO accountability in being a politician....nothing will ever change.
 

There was a time not too long ago, Canada had real leadership...

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Headline of the day award:

Swedish city to dump metric ton of chicken manure in park to discourage festival gathering

This should put their park on par with those in California. Gardeners will appreciate it too...

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1 hour ago, deicer said:

Nice deflection

The Tyee has no credibility to half the country. Typical Leftist / Socialist interpretation of events.


No Politician has ever been perfect, nor will they ever be..... but at least Harper didn’t sell the countries future down the drain like Justin has !! ??

I know it will be difficult, but try your best to pronounce each one of these words slowlllllyyyyyyyy ..

ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FOUR BILLION $$$$ DEFICIT

Just this year !!!

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