Johnboy Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Tweet from Tom Podolec about the fracass......scroll down for the after pictures... https://twitter.com/TomPodolec/status/1211803214401720327?s=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrlupin Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 Also on this site: https://aeronewsglobal.com/video-incident-contact-between-two-air-canada-aircraft-in-toronto/?fbclid=IwAR3UYxQgG_TUo8Bshmr4RxEVc269qoQdr-lW41E1T68HH5vQVLb78UnDixY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super 80 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 That reminds me of a night at the Boston Harbor Hyatt at Logan where I had a hotel room overlooking the end of Runway 14 which late at night is used for RON, watching Delta and American A321s getting towed at high speed and tightly packed together was half awe inspiring and half terrifying. No wing walkers or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydee Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 The comments are hilarious. Can you say clueless?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jaydee said: The comments are hilarious. Can you say clueless?? Tom Podolec Aviation @TomPodolec 30 Dec 2019 More INCIDENT while being towed, an Air Canada Boeing 777-300 (C-FIUL) clipped the tail of a parked Air Canada Airbus A321 (C-GJWO) in Toronto on Friday Dec 27. Both aircraft were unoccupied at the time. Aviões e Músicas 106 replies516 retweets1,261 likes Reply 106 Retweet 516 Like 1.3K Tom Podolec Aviation @TomPodolec FollowFollow @TomPodolec More Update INCIDENT An Air Canada Boeing 777-300 (C-FIUL) struck a parked AC Airbus A321 (C-GJWO) while being towed. Caused significant damage to the A321 tail now being replaced. The 777 wingtip has been repaired. Both aircraft seen in this photo. https://twitter.com/tompodolec/status/1211803214401720327?s=21 … 10:05 AM - 31 Dec 2019 27 Retweets 144 Likes Air Canada 6 replies27 retweets144 likes Reply 6 Retweet 27 Like 144 Tom Podolec Aviation @TomPodolec 31 Dec 2019 More Update INCIDENT Air Canada Boeing 777-300 that struck the tail of an Airbus A321 now parked outside the hangar in Toronto. Wingtip has been repaired. It’s now back in service however it was scheduled for a C Check prior to collision. Possibly ferry to Singapore for that check. Air Canada 7 replies12 retweets108 likes Reply 7 Retweet 12 Like 108 New conversation Pedro @psrox 31 Dec 2019 More Replying to @TomPodolec Is the 777 ready to go back into service or is there anything else that has to happened before it is cleared to carry pax again? 1 reply0 retweets1 like Reply 1 Retweet Like 1 Tom Podolec Aviation @TomPodolec 31 Dec 2019 More It’s back. But it’s actually going to Singapore for a pre-scheduled C Check. It was supposed to go the day of the incident. The damage was relatively minor. I’m sure they’ll give it a further look during the inspection. 0 replies0 retweets1 like Reply Retweet Like 1 End of conversation New conversation k @dumanoir 31 Dec 2019 More Replying to @TomPodolec @AirCanada How long does a tail replacement take? I assume they’d have a small stockpile of needed parts just in case. 1 reply0 retweets1 like Reply 1 Retweet Like 1 Tom Podolec Aviation @TomPodolec 31 Dec 2019 More I’m told it’s being delivered from Airbus. The aircraft will then have to undergo testing with Airbus before it can be back in service. 2 replies0 retweets4 likes Reply 2 Retweet Like 4 1 more reply Skytag @skytag2 31 Dec 2019 More Replying to @TomPodolec @AirCanada Hi Tom. Many thanks for sharing all the great photos over the past year! Looking forward to 2020. 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like JVS @JVS62236362 31 Dec 2019 More Replying to @TomPodolec @AirCanada That was quick... 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like JamelBoost @JamelBoost 5h5 hours ago More Replying to @TomPodolec @AeronewsGlobal @AirCanada Was. Was fast 0 replies0 retweets0 likes Reply Retweet Like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Found this on another site: Is it accurate? Quote Wide body tows should be on lane 13E but driver took 13 instead. Experienced crews off for Xmas holidays. Tough way to end a brief ground crew career. Expensive lesson for AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I would say NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, boestar said: I would say NO Thanks, I did notice that the one from the other forum shows 2 lanes labelled as 13 (13 and 13E) vs the one you posted that only shows one. Same for Lane 11 and 11E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 That is right out of the CURRENT Canada Air Chart book from Nav Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vsplat Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Just a note here, the nav canada charts are not ground vehicle operations charts and are often lacking at many airports when it comes to fine ramp details. For the record though, 13 as depicted in the nav charts and on google earth (attached) appears to be east of what shows on the jeppesen chart attached in the thread above. I don't know what the ramp crew in question would have referenced. Vs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.O. Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 The white lines shown in that Google image seem to coincide with the ones shown in the first image posted by Marshall. Maybe the tow crews have a different reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HST Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 hours ago, boestar said: I would say NO See the image below. The info posted above (incorrect lane taken) is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 That is right out of the CURRENT Canada Air Chart book from Nav Canada. do you have an effective date for your electronic version. You will not that mine has a date. Under tow these are not used anyhow so really it’s moot point. If he didnt maintain the centre line he was looking for trouble. Not the first time I’ve seen this happen and it won’t be the last. so arguing over which valid chart is correct and you wonder why we have incursions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, boestar said: That is right out of the CURRENT Canada Air Chart book from Nav Canada. do you have an effective date for your electronic version. You will not that mine has a date. Under tow these are not used anyhow so really it’s moot point. If he didnt maintain the centre line he was looking for trouble. Not the first time I’ve seen this happen and it won’t be the last. so arguing over which valid chart is correct and you wonder why we have incursions. I understand that there is quite often a difference between the NavCanada Charts and the actual ground handling charts, if so then the electronic chart might indeed be the one that the ground handling staff would be using when positioning aircraft vs the one that the crew on an inbound flight might be using when taxing to a gate. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 What makes anyone think those guys are referring to any charts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boestar Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 8 hours ago, Marshall said: I understand that there is quite often a difference between the NavCanada Charts and the actual ground handling charts, if so then the electronic chart might indeed be the one that the ground handling staff would be using when positioning aircraft vs the one that the crew on an inbound flight might be using when taxing to a gate. . been towing aircraft at pearson since 1988. Never used an electronic chart. I used the map provided by the GTAA and Transport Canada before them. For the most part I have never had to refer to it because I had been doing it for so long. Granted I have not been over there in that area in several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HST Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 An inexperienced driver followed the wrong lane. The map was provided here for clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fido Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 18 hours ago, conehead said: What makes anyone think those guys are referring to any charts?? Referring to a chart while towing on the ramp would qualify as distracted driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conehead Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Spotted this morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kip Powick Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 The new ECONO model.....no drag from a vertical stab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deicer Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Not the first time it's happened.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wclfY0Meruw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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